Jeremy Hanson FTW!

johnboy 9 December 2008 67

Just heard on the ABC that the new Liberal MLA, Jeremy Hanson, has used his maiden speech in the Assembly to assert his support for a woman’s right to choose and gay and lesbian civil unions.

Hardly revolutionary, but sadly unusual to hear from the mis-named “Liberals”.

Now if he can convince the rest of the party they might be in with a show.

Lucky he’s got four years to work on it.

UPDATED: The report is now online.

    “I support a women’s right to choose, and I’m encouraged to serve in an Assembly where nearly 50 per cent of its members are women,” he said.

    “I believe in advancing the rights for gay and lesbian people.”


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Thumper Thumper 1:11 pm 14 Feb 13

Robertson said :

NickD said :

deezagood said :

It may not be/have been a huge election issue, but I find Jeremy’s willingness to speak up, publically, on these issues very refreshing.

On the other hand, lots of Liberals do share the same views, and are genuinely socially liberal so this is hardly a new development. The problem for the libs is that these voices of electoral sanity are a minority within the party.

Meanwhile in the UK, the Tory party passed their gay marriage bill.

In Australia, we seem determined to let ignorant wannabe tea-party-fundamentalist-Republicans hijack our Liberal party.

Just a quick reality check my friend.

Gillard is in power and she is against gay marriage.

It is that simple.

And just to send your mind completely into meltdown, I totally support gay marriage.

Sorry JB 🙂

Robertson Robertson 12:56 pm 14 Feb 13

NickD said :

deezagood said :

It may not be/have been a huge election issue, but I find Jeremy’s willingness to speak up, publically, on these issues very refreshing.

On the other hand, lots of Liberals do share the same views, and are genuinely socially liberal so this is hardly a new development. The problem for the libs is that these voices of electoral sanity are a minority within the party.

Meanwhile in the UK, the Tory party passed their gay marriage bill.

In Australia, we seem determined to let ignorant wannabe tea-party-fundamentalist-Republicans hijack our Liberal party.

    johnboy johnboy 1:04 pm 14 Feb 13

    Robertson in future I’ll ask you to stay on topic.

Madam Cholet Madam Cholet 5:01 pm 11 Feb 13

Holden Caulfield said :

Bump.

It will be very interesting to see where Hanson leads the local Libs.

He’ll have a tough time leading the rabid right, especially now that Coe is deputy. Wish him well as he’s a good guy and deserves what he has achieved. He will have to watch his back with Coe so close though.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 3:35 pm 11 Feb 13

Bump.

It will be very interesting to see where Hanson leads the local Libs.

jakez jakez 7:47 pm 15 Dec 08

Okay, well after obtaining and reading a copy of Coe’s speech, I have to say ‘meh’.

It’s socially conservative for sure but I found it to be pretty uncontroversial. As a libertarian I have to say I thought ‘I don’t agree with this bit’ however I wasn’t particularly offended (well beyond the usual offence that I take from most politics).

Still waiting for a copy of Hanson’s speech.

Don’t worry, I’ll give you all the chance to vote for a true liberal one day 😉

NickD NickD 5:13 pm 10 Dec 08

deezagood said :

It may not be/have been a huge election issue, but I find Jeremy’s willingness to speak up, publically, on these issues very refreshing.

On the other hand, lots of Liberals do share the same views, and are genuinely socially liberal so this is hardly a new development. The problem for the libs is that these voices of electoral sanity are a minority within the party.

jakez jakez 10:56 am 10 Dec 08

Jim Jones, I haven’t missed your point. I understand your point and I am agreeing with it.

Jim Jones said :

The Federal Liberal party has been run by racist bigots and homophobes for the past 10 years, that sort of attitude does have a tendency to rub off.

Well, except for this part.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:51 am 10 Dec 08

And yes, it wasn’t the reason the Liberals lost, but you can hardly rule it out as a contributing factor.

The Federal Liberal party has been run by racist bigots and homophobes for the past 10 years, that sort of attitude does have a tendency to rub off.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:49 am 10 Dec 08

I think you’ve missed my point: it’s not about ‘pet issues’. Issues such as abortion, gay rights, etc. are rarely in the forefront of my mind when voting (and I suspect that much of the populace of Canberra is the same). I’m more interested in the issues upon which the elected representatives will actually have some influence.

That said, if I discover that a candidate holds an intolerant view on such matters, they’re instantly ruled out of voting contention.

So these issues aren’t election winners, but they can certainly cause people to lose elections.

jakez jakez 10:34 am 10 Dec 08

BeyondThought said :

At The Fraser preselection for the 2007 election, abortion, euthanasia, and gay marriage were questions, however I don’t think there was much emphasis put on the answers”

Just as well as Troy Williams would not have got up. Answered them honestly by all accounts, so either nobody listened or nobody cared. Then again in a seat like Fraser why bother?

Tragic Williams didn’t stand, a Hanson-Williams ticket might have been electable in 2012.

Troy Williams did get up. He was the candidate for Fraser in 2007. Have I misunderstood what you are trying to say?

I was also very disappointed that Williams didn’t stand for the local election. He was going to be the guy I was going to volunteer for.

Jim Jones said :

jakez said :

Do you really believe that abortion was in the top 5 issues for electors in the 2008 election?

No. These issues rarely are.

But when intelligent, socially progressive voters are confronted by a spittle-flecked conservative nutsacks who want to ‘perform the work of god’, it provides a clear reason not to vote for them, regardless of their attitudes to the quotidian matters.

That is true jimbo jones. However I’m merely saying that it wasn’t in my mind a significant reason for the ACT Liberals loss. Put it this way, I view it as tassle. The ACT Liberals needed to do some significant work on the engine before we looked at the tassle.

Everyone has their pet issues. Mine are taxes and censorship. Some out there will have abortion rights as their main issue. Some out there will have being pro life as their main issue. All I am saying is that (especially in a multi member system) it’s a more complex analysis than to simply say pro abortion stance equals win.

ant ant 9:14 am 10 Dec 08

Jim Jones said :

jakez said :

But when intelligent, socially progressive voters are confronted by a spittle-flecked conservative nutsacks who want to ‘perform the work of god’, it provides a clear reason not to vote for them, regardless of their attitudes to the quotidian matters.

Exactly. Or, even worse, when the spittle-flecked conservatives wipe off the spittle and pretend to be reasonable, and won’t reveal their nutsackery until safely elected. Someone coming out and owning their progressive beliefs is pleasing.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 9:09 am 10 Dec 08

jakez said :

Do you really believe that abortion was in the top 5 issues for electors in the 2008 election?

No. These issues rarely are.

But when intelligent, socially progressive voters are confronted by a spittle-flecked conservative nutsacks who want to ‘perform the work of god’, it provides a clear reason not to vote for them, regardless of their attitudes to the quotidian matters.

deezagood deezagood 8:06 am 10 Dec 08

It may not be/have been a huge election issue, but I find Jeremy’s willingness to speak up, publically, on these issues very refreshing. I just hope it is genuine and not voter-pleasing rhetoric.

BeyondThought BeyondThought 12:49 am 10 Dec 08

At The Fraser preselection for the 2007 election, abortion, euthanasia, and gay marriage were questions, however I don’t think there was much emphasis put on the answers”

Just as well as Troy Williams would not have got up. Answered them honestly by all accounts, so either nobody listened or nobody cared. Then again in a seat like Fraser why bother?

Tragic Williams didn’t stand, a Hanson-Williams ticket might have been electable in 2012.

jakez jakez 11:31 pm 09 Dec 08

And here I was thinking this term wasn’t going to be interesting.

johnboy johnboy 10:01 pm 09 Dec 08

NickD said :

Given that the ACT swung to the left of the Labor Party in the last election, the ACT Liberals have no hope at all unless they can convince people that they’re socially liberal.

I wonder if there’s enough study tours to send Alistair Coe on? A whole lot more convincing needed if he can’t be silenced.

NickD NickD 9:22 pm 09 Dec 08

Given that the ACT swung to the left of the Labor Party in the last election, the ACT Liberals have no hope at all unless they can convince people that they’re socially liberal.

jakez jakez 8:28 pm 09 Dec 08

‘For The Win’.

astrojax astrojax 8:23 pm 09 Dec 08

can someone disentangle ‘FTW!’ for me? this is modern sms/net jargon with which i too often struggle… [like, ‘we can has… something’ – like, wtf?]

jakez jakez 8:06 pm 09 Dec 08

I’m not in disagreeance Caf. I was more taking aim at the concept of social progressivism.

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