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Katy backflips on cycleway along Majura Parkway

By BicycleCanberra - 21 May 2012 117

Chief Minister Katy Gallagher stated to me last year that the planned Majura Parkway would have a physically separated cycle path next to the road like the M7 in Sydney:

Katy Gallagher said on 19 August:

Hi, as part of the Majura Parkway project a separate cycle path will be constructed off road along the length of the road similar to that of the M7 in Sydney. It will be similar to Copenhagen except it will be on one side of the road but wide enough for two way bike travel. We will continue to discuss as we undertake final planning for the road with the bicycle advisory group. KG

In a letter to pedal Power Katy Gallagher has stated that there is no money for the separated path. Brendan Nerdal from Pedal Power advocacy says:

An off-road path along Majura Parkway is critical because it allows people who are not confident riding on roads to also ride along that transit corridor.

“We need that facility built today. It will be the cheapest time to do it. To retrofit it later, such as the Gungahlin Drive extension, would cost a fortune.”

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I still don’t understand why ACT doesn’t follow international best practice for cycle infrastructure like other countries:

What’s Your opinion?


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117 Responses to
Katy backflips on cycleway along Majura Parkway
Postalgeek 12:23 pm 21 May 12

HenryBG said :

If you come up with a scheme to use labour drawn from imprisoned criminals to build you more paths, however, I would be supportive. Especially if there were whips involved.

I think some cyclists and Henry BG could find some common ground here, especially if it involved Canberra’s finest hit-and-runners.

Disappointing news from Gallagher.

I don’t believe we needed separated lanes everywhere (though it would be nice), but certainly for high speed corridors like the Monaro and Majura the traffic should be separated.

Once again I would suggest, if money is an issue, flexible road reflectors or raised reflectors would at least create a visual barrier and audible alert. Cars can still pass over them but are far less likely to casually stray.

http://www.reflectiveroad.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Leitboy_L30.jpg

http://www.autospec.co.za/thumb/browse/property/productmedia/pekay/images/adhesives/237-road-reflector3.jpg

The other approach should be to locate cycle lanes in the median strips when they are wide enough, to protect cyclists from traffic leaving and entering from side roads. This would be most effective on somewhere like Northbourne.

KB1971 12:23 pm 21 May 12

Myles Peterson said :

“I presume you are trolling…”

Not in this instance. If you can fit a plate to a motorcycle, you can fit one to a bike.

Why should cyclists be the only road users who contribute no infrastructure funding and have no accountability?

When are people like you going to get it through your thick skulls that riders do contibute to infrastructure funding????

Its called C-O-N-S-O-L-I-D-A-T-E-D R-E-V-E-N-U-E & it comes in the form of all taxes.

By your reasoning I should get a discount every time I dont drive my car, like this morning.

Sorry, I just had to bite.

On topic, I agree that it would be a cheaper option to do it now as it probably will never get done & with Majura Road being a major arterial road to Gunners as well as a “city bypass” for heavy vehicles it should have one.

Its a bit like Dairy Flat, 10 years ago when they duplicated it they shpould have finished it at the Fyshwick end rather than have a blttlekneck each way.

Lazy I 12:15 pm 21 May 12

Myles Peterson said :

“I presume you are trolling…”

Not in this instance. If you can fit a plate to a motorcycle, you can fit one to a bike.

Why should cyclists be the only road users who contribute no infrastructure funding and have no accountability?

..in before “the majority of cyclists own cars and pay registration / taxes”

KB1971 12:13 pm 21 May 12

BicycleCanberra said :

HenryBG said :

Canberra ratepayers already pay far more per cyclist on cycling infrastructure than do the taxpayers of Denmark and Holland.

What Rubbish! In Holland they pay at least $39 per person on cycle infrastructure ,in the ACT it’s around $8 per person. Compare that Australia wide and that would be far less. Its about spending the transport dollars evenly and not just on roads, and improving safety for everyone.

Ohh, beat me to it, I was going to ask Henry to provide stats 🙂

Myles Peterson 11:51 am 21 May 12

“I presume you are trolling…”

Not in this instance. If you can fit a plate to a motorcycle, you can fit one to a bike.

Why should cyclists be the only road users who contribute no infrastructure funding and have no accountability?

BicycleCanberra 11:26 am 21 May 12

HenryBG said :

Canberra ratepayers already pay far more per cyclist on cycling infrastructure than do the taxpayers of Denmark and Holland.

What Rubbish! In Holland they pay at least $39 per person on cycle infrastructure ,in the ACT it’s around $8 per person. Compare that Australia wide and that would be far less. Its about spending the transport dollars evenly and not just on roads, and improving safety for everyone.

Thumper 11:20 am 21 May 12

I like the idea of an off road cycle path, in fact there should be more of them.

Win win as far as I see.

Cyclists don’t need to worry about being run over and motorist don’t have to worry about watching out for cyclists. Far safer for everyone involved.

And the more people who cycle to work the less congestion for those who drive cars.

And fewer long rants on RA about the rights of cyclists and motorists.

dtc 11:15 am 21 May 12

Myles Peterson said :

And number plates. It’s almost impossible to identify and report a cyclist for dangerous riding.

I presume you are trolling, but anyway – where (this is a serious question) would you put a number play on a bicycle?

Myles Peterson 11:12 am 21 May 12

Licence ACT cyclist and use the money to help fund infrastructure. It’ll weed out the reckless bad apples, create accountability and provide some badly needed road-rule training.

And number plates. It’s almost impossible to identify and report a cyclist for dangerous riding.

Baldy 11:07 am 21 May 12

ooohhh waits for th monthly discussion/arguement of cars versus bikes.

It sooo much fun to reread the same arguement over and over again under different headings.

Brandi 11:05 am 21 May 12

Disappointing.

HenryBG 11:03 am 21 May 12

Canberra ratepayers already pay far more per cyclist on cycling infrastructure than do the taxpayers of Denmark and Holland.

Canberra is not a compact city situated on flat land. The paths we do have already cover a huge extent and are very poorly utilised compared with paths in the places you mention. Canberrans already pay a lot of tax – rego fees for example are the highest in the country – and we do not deserve to be slugged with extra charges to pay for stuff few people want.

If you come up with a scheme to use labour drawn from imprisoned criminals to build you more paths, however, I would be supportive. Especially if there were whips involved.

BicycleCanberra 10:58 am 21 May 12

Erg0 said :

If that cyclist is so concerned about his safety, he should probably put a helmet on.

A Helmet won’t protect you when you a run over by a truck or a car for that matter!

Solidarity 10:54 am 21 May 12

Need it build today? Why is it a need? If you don’t like it, move to Holland.

Erg0 10:44 am 21 May 12

If that cyclist is so concerned about his safety, he should probably put a helmet on.

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