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By jesse - 24 September 2012 24

We paid $80 an hour for a chap with a Dingo machine to rip out some shrubs. Not an onerous task by any means. Cost $400. Not bad money for 5 hours work. We asked if he could come back to take out some more, but he never came back or even contacted us after I left a message on his mobile.

Second guy – recommended on The Riot Act – came, had a look, told us what he would do, said he’d get back to us, but failed to contact us, even though we asked if he could start this week.

The work needing to be done is on flat ground, easily accessible and we are willing to pay whatever is necessary to complete the job. Probably about 2 days work.

We are easy going, and not demanding. What are we doing wrong?

I’d love to be so well off that I could knock back $80 – $100 an hour.

What’s Your opinion?


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jesse 9:09 am 25 Sep 12

Mordd said :

screaming banshee said :

Cost $400. Not bad money for 5 hours work.

Feel free to put yourself through the necessary operator and licensing courses, purchase a truck and dingo, register a business and abn, obtain the correct insurances, spend a sufficient amount on advertising and then sit back and wait for those hundred dollar bills to roll on in.

Just make sure you can afford to pay off the equipment, keep them fuelled and maintained, keep the insurances up to date, pay the mortgage and feed the family…hell, I reckon you could probably do all that for 20 bucks an hour so you could charge $80 and walk away with $60 for every hour you work. Make sure you put some of that away though for the occasions when the equipment breaks down, or the weather keeps you from working. You’ll probably want to save a little for a holiday too, no such thing as annual leave when you work for yourself, you cant rely on the dollars coming in unless you are putting in the effort.

You too could be that well off if you are prepared to put all of your personal possessions (not to mention your marriage) on the line, start your own business and work your arse off.

Ok while amusing to read and im sure quite accurate, the OP wasn’t suggesting that they were overpaying the tradies, just that they thought the amount they were offering was fair for the work involved, which it seems to be. While I can understand the defensiveness in your comment, if you actually are a tradie and not just an internet back seat driver, then maybe referencing them to yourself or a friend you know would have been more productive all round than the rant you posted, just saying.

Thank you. 🙂

jesse 9:05 am 25 Sep 12

Gungahlin Al said :

jesse said :

cross said :

Holden Caulfield said :

Most of them are selfish pricks.

+1

Maybe try someone like Tradeworks where they get multiple quotes on your behalf if a tradie did not turn up it would reflect badly on them , or I,ve heard good things about the Grey Army at http://www.greyarmy.com.au

Thanks for the info. I didn’t know about Tradeworks. Sounds like a great idea. I will also contact Grey Army.

My 76 year old partner wanted to hire a machine and do the work himself, but he was convinced by “she who must be obeyed” that it would probably be better to employ an expert.

Re the ads in the paper : We had a great job of tiling ( on our porches) by a nice chap called Csiske, who advertised in the Chronic. You can be lucky sometimes. 🙂

I was also going to suggest the DIY route, but you do get tossed around a fair bit on a Dingo (especially when learning to use it), so at 76 (no offence) it may be stressing on more frail bones somewhat.

The other thing about dingoes is that you basically hold the throttle handles with thumbs and first two fingers, and use the pinkies and ring fingers to push and pull the controls for the loader and bucket at the same time as you are moving. These are fingers that otherwise get used for next to nothing, so after a day of maximising your rental investment, you can count on having essentially unusable hands for the next 2-3 days! (Speaking from experience…) Painful – and you need to factor that down time into your work schedule!

screaming banshee said :

Cost $400. Not bad money for 5 hours work.

Feel free to put yourself through the necessary operator and licensing courses, purchase a truck and dingo, register a business and abn, obtain the correct insurances, spend a sufficient amount on advertising and then sit back and wait for those hundred dollar bills to roll on in.

Just make sure you can afford to pay off the equipment, keep them fuelled and maintained, keep the insurances up to date, pay the mortgage and feed the family…hell, I reckon you could probably do all that for 20 bucks an hour so you could charge $80 and walk away with $60 for every hour you work. Make sure you put some of that away though for the occasions when the equipment breaks down, or the weather keeps you from working. You’ll probably want to save a little for a holiday too, no such thing as annual leave when you work for yourself, you cant rely on the dollars coming in unless you are putting in the effort.

You too could be that well off if you are prepared to put all of your personal possessions (not to mention your marriage) on the line, start your own business and work your arse off.

Hi, We understand everything you mention. The tradie worked very hard and we were very impressed. In fact, my husband, who Is getting frailer,after a lifetime of working 2 jobs, helped load the dead greenery on the trailer, moved many metres of big pavers and we regularly asked the chap if he wanted coffee etc. The fact that he didn’t come back after saying that he would was disappointing. As I said, we are willing to pay whatever it takes to get the job done.

jesse 8:49 am 25 Sep 12

Matthewjbrownau said :

is a dingo machine required for the job? If not, I might be able to do it – I have just finished studying and am doing casual work here and there. This is of course, dependent on the conditions of the job – e.g. the length of time it will likely take/ level of difficulty/ rate of pay.

Cheers

Thanks , it does require a dingo or bobcat to get the roots out. We have been living here for 15 years and really should have attacked them earlier. Good luck with your endeavours.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:51 am 25 Sep 12

screaming banshee said :

Cost $400. Not bad money for 5 hours work.

Feel free to put yourself through the necessary operator and licensing courses, purchase a truck and dingo, register a business and abn, obtain the correct insurances, spend a sufficient amount on advertising and then sit back and wait for those hundred dollar bills to roll on in.

Just make sure you can afford to pay off the equipment, keep them fuelled and maintained, keep the insurances up to date, pay the mortgage and feed the family…hell, I reckon you could probably do all that for 20 bucks an hour so you could charge $80 and walk away with $60 for every hour you work. Make sure you put some of that away though for the occasions when the equipment breaks down, or the weather keeps you from working. You’ll probably want to save a little for a holiday too, no such thing as annual leave when you work for yourself, you cant rely on the dollars coming in unless you are putting in the effort.

You too could be that well off if you are prepared to put all of your personal possessions (not to mention your marriage) on the line, start your own business and work your arse off.

Yeah it always gross when people whine about reasonable prices from tradies. This is Canberra though so you get used to it.

Mordd 3:59 am 25 Sep 12

screaming banshee said :

Cost $400. Not bad money for 5 hours work.

Feel free to put yourself through the necessary operator and licensing courses, purchase a truck and dingo, register a business and abn, obtain the correct insurances, spend a sufficient amount on advertising and then sit back and wait for those hundred dollar bills to roll on in.

Just make sure you can afford to pay off the equipment, keep them fuelled and maintained, keep the insurances up to date, pay the mortgage and feed the family…hell, I reckon you could probably do all that for 20 bucks an hour so you could charge $80 and walk away with $60 for every hour you work. Make sure you put some of that away though for the occasions when the equipment breaks down, or the weather keeps you from working. You’ll probably want to save a little for a holiday too, no such thing as annual leave when you work for yourself, you cant rely on the dollars coming in unless you are putting in the effort.

You too could be that well off if you are prepared to put all of your personal possessions (not to mention your marriage) on the line, start your own business and work your arse off.

Ok while amusing to read and im sure quite accurate, the OP wasn’t suggesting that they were overpaying the tradies, just that they thought the amount they were offering was fair for the work involved, which it seems to be. While I can understand the defensiveness in your comment, if you actually are a tradie and not just an internet back seat driver, then maybe referencing them to yourself or a friend you know would have been more productive all round than the rant you posted, just saying.

CoffinRX2 1:01 am 25 Sep 12

Adrian from Renew Landscaping 0415 508 244

poetix 10:13 pm 24 Sep 12

Dingos are a warrigal.

screaming banshee 9:12 pm 24 Sep 12

Cost $400. Not bad money for 5 hours work.

Feel free to put yourself through the necessary operator and licensing courses, purchase a truck and dingo, register a business and abn, obtain the correct insurances, spend a sufficient amount on advertising and then sit back and wait for those hundred dollar bills to roll on in.

Just make sure you can afford to pay off the equipment, keep them fuelled and maintained, keep the insurances up to date, pay the mortgage and feed the family…hell, I reckon you could probably do all that for 20 bucks an hour so you could charge $80 and walk away with $60 for every hour you work. Make sure you put some of that away though for the occasions when the equipment breaks down, or the weather keeps you from working. You’ll probably want to save a little for a holiday too, no such thing as annual leave when you work for yourself, you cant rely on the dollars coming in unless you are putting in the effort.

You too could be that well off if you are prepared to put all of your personal possessions (not to mention your marriage) on the line, start your own business and work your arse off.

mp2615 8:54 pm 24 Sep 12

Try Mark from Mow and Behold – 0406 227 772. handy, reliable and straight up

Gungahlin Al 8:15 pm 24 Sep 12

jesse said :

cross said :

Holden Caulfield said :

Most of them are selfish pricks.

+1

Maybe try someone like Tradeworks where they get multiple quotes on your behalf if a tradie did not turn up it would reflect badly on them , or I,ve heard good things about the Grey Army at http://www.greyarmy.com.au

Thanks for the info. I didn’t know about Tradeworks. Sounds like a great idea. I will also contact Grey Army.

My 76 year old partner wanted to hire a machine and do the work himself, but he was convinced by “she who must be obeyed” that it would probably be better to employ an expert.

Re the ads in the paper : We had a great job of tiling ( on our porches) by a nice chap called Csiske, who advertised in the Chronic. You can be lucky sometimes. 🙂

I was also going to suggest the DIY route, but you do get tossed around a fair bit on a Dingo (especially when learning to use it), so at 76 (no offence) it may be stressing on more frail bones somewhat.

The other thing about dingoes is that you basically hold the throttle handles with thumbs and first two fingers, and use the pinkies and ring fingers to push and pull the controls for the loader and bucket at the same time as you are moving. These are fingers that otherwise get used for next to nothing, so after a day of maximising your rental investment, you can count on having essentially unusable hands for the next 2-3 days! (Speaking from experience…) Painful – and you need to factor that down time into your work schedule!

jesse 6:11 pm 24 Sep 12

cross said :

Holden Caulfield said :

Most of them are selfish pricks.

+1

Maybe try someone like Tradeworks where they get multiple quotes on your behalf if a tradie did not turn up it would reflect badly on them , or I,ve heard good things about the Grey Army at http://www.greyarmy.com.au

Thanks for the info. I didn’t know about Tradeworks. Sounds like a great idea. I will also contact Grey Army.

My 76 year old partner wanted to hire a machine and do the work himself, but he was convinced by “she who must be obeyed” that it would probably be better to employ an expert.

Re the ads in the paper : We had a great job of tiling ( on our porches) by a nice chap called Csiske, who advertised in the Chronic. You can be lucky sometimes. 🙂

Matthewjbrownau 5:57 pm 24 Sep 12

is a dingo machine required for the job? If not, I might be able to do it – I have just finished studying and am doing casual work here and there. This is of course, dependent on the conditions of the job – e.g. the length of time it will likely take/ level of difficulty/ rate of pay.

Cheers

cross 5:16 pm 24 Sep 12

Holden Caulfield said :

Most of them are selfish pricks.

+1

Maybe try someone like Tradeworks where they get multiple quotes on your behalf if a tradie did not turn up it would reflect badly on them , or I,ve heard good things about the Grey Army at http://www.greyarmy.com.au

neanderthalsis 4:25 pm 24 Sep 12

Have you considered the DIY option? Hire a ute, hire a dingo and go for it yourself. Unless you’re talking about deforestation on an Amazonian scale it should be a relatively easy job.

Holden Caulfield 3:13 pm 24 Sep 12

“We are easy going, and not demanding. What are we doing wrong?”

Dealing with tradies. Good ones are a dime a dozen. Most of them are selfish pricks.

I’m not bitter or anything.

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