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Learner Drivers – a bit of patience please?

By Kuku - 4 October 2010 38

Hi Folks,

My son has just got his L’s. Yesterday he drove to the local shops with his Dad…all of about 500 metres from our front door. He pulled out of our road and he stalled the car but there were no vehicles in sight so he started the car and went to move off, only to have two cars, one driven by 50 something bloke and the other by a blokette doing at least 80kms on a 50 km road fly up behind him scream at him and overtake him on the inside bus stop. And where were these two great role models going? Yes, to the local Wanniassa shops.

I’m sure the two role models weren’t born knowing how to drive, so perhaps have a bit of respect for those kids who are learning. With older drivers like that, no wonder so many P platers think they are invincible.

What’s Your opinion?


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Learner Drivers – a bit of patience please?
Kuku 4:22 pm 04 Oct 10

Golden-Alpine said :

I have to say I think it is madness that all we have to do is pass a theory test to get behind the wheel of a car.

I believe there needs to be a lot more practical experience before kids are let loose onto the roads.

I like the lesson program to get your learners for motorbikes and I think this type of program should be implemented for cars. 2 full days learning about cars, how they operate, how you operate, how to get in and out safely, how to adjust seat, mirrors etc. They should then be taught how to drive on a closed circuit like Sutton Driving Centre or even EPIC.

Thanks for the tip. I will get the book. And I totally agree with your comment. And to add further, once they get their P’s the power to weight ration should be limited.

Golden-Alpine 4:03 pm 04 Oct 10

I have to say I think it is madness that all we have to do is pass a theory test to get behind the wheel of a car.

I believe there needs to be a lot more practical experience before kids are let loose onto the roads.

I like the lesson program to get your learners for motorbikes and I think this type of program should be implemented for cars. 2 full days learning about cars, how they operate, how you operate, how to get in and out safely, how to adjust seat, mirrors etc. They should then be taught how to drive on a closed circuit like Sutton Driving Centre or even EPIC.

To be honest I don’t think the learner should be allowed on the road until they can confidently drive without stalling 95% of the time and drive to the speed limits (or within road conditions such as rain).

By throwing learners into the deep end makes this already stressful experience so much more stressful for the learner, parent and others.

We don’t see pilots pass a theory test and then the keys to a boeing 747. They have simulators and so much more practical experience before they can take control.

How can we ask our kids to take driving so serious when we don’t. It is time we get serious and implement a better training programme.

Yes all existing drivers should show patience with learners as we all were learners once.

To Kuku good luck in your training, I would recommend getting a book called Drive To Survive by Frank Gardner, I found it really good when I was learning to drive.

Kuku 2:46 pm 04 Oct 10

creative_canberran said :

Though nothing justifies the stupid behaviour of those two drivers, I would also say that many L-platers out there should rethink what they’re doing. Too many of them I’ve seen on the roads are displaying very basic difficulties like staying in the lane (both on a straight and on roundabouts), driving at the speed limit (doing 60 in an 80 zone the whole way) and using signals.
I think more L-platers should go somewhere quiet and get the basics right first. A place like Royalla down south is ideal; quiet, plenty of different road conditions, situations to practice and speed zones. Drive the learner down there then let them take over. Let them get the basic road craft right so that when they get onto the busier roads, they’re more prepared.

An L-plater doing 60 in a 90 zone on Parkes Way and straying from his lane has no business being on a main road yet.

+1. Our local car park gets a lot of driving attention! But wouldn’t it be great if we could book a time at, say Sutton Driver Training when they start learning. We just seem to throw them into the deep end.

Kuku 2:44 pm 04 Oct 10

Captain RAAF said :

I blame YOU!

Firstly, stop teachong your kid bad driving habits, like pulling out of a driveway and stalling. Get him proper lessons or if you must drive him around, take hime somewhere where he won’t get in peoples way and then hand the car over to him. Not once did I have an L plate on my car except the few lessons I had. Learners, they’re a bloody embuggerance and stop good drivers from getting to important places, like centrelink and Floriade.

You want little johnny to be a good driver he better learn fast that it’s every man for himself out there and L platers, if they can’t pony up with the big boys, will be rightfully devoured.

He’s baaaaaccckkkkk!!!! 🙂

farnarkler 2:36 pm 04 Oct 10

The best place for learners, in the beginning, is in areas where houses are being built. They can learn all the basics before being taken out into main roads (quiet ones at first or on weekends). I had lessons and the instructor took me out into rush hour traffic ie thrown into the deep end……in a Camira of all things.

Yes we were all learners once so a bit of patience is due however there are times and places where learners really shouldn’t be. The licensed driver beside the learner should have a good think about where and when they take the learner out.

Fiona 2:10 pm 04 Oct 10

Captain RAAF said :

Get him proper lessons or if you must drive him around, take hime somewhere where he won’t get in peoples way and then hand the car over to him. Not once did I have an L plate on my car except the few lessons I had. Learners, they’re a bloody embuggerance and stop good drivers from getting to important places, like centrelink and Floriade

Be thankful then you’re not across the border in NSW where they are meant to get 150 hours driving prctise before going for their Ps. But at least then they’ve had soem practise before they get out there on their own.

Me no fry 2:09 pm 04 Oct 10

While I think monstering L-plate drivers is pretty poor, aggressive and indicative of someone with a short memory who does not remember their own learning-to-drive experiences, I do agree with creative_canberran. Start off the lessons in a quiet place (though these are much harder to find now than they were when I learnt to drive, when shops actually shut for most of the weekend) and let them hit the road when they have the fundamentals right.

Also, speaking of L-plate drivers, while new drivers need to learn how to drive on country roads, it probably isn’t a good idea to let them do it on a long weekend on the road down to the coast, like the one I saw a few years ago holding up a long stream of holiday traffic.

creative_canberran 1:14 pm 04 Oct 10

Though nothing justifies the stupid behaviour of those two drivers, I would also say that many L-platers out there should rethink what they’re doing. Too many of them I’ve seen on the roads are displaying very basic difficulties like staying in the lane (both on a straight and on roundabouts), driving at the speed limit (doing 60 in an 80 zone the whole way) and using signals.
I think more L-platers should go somewhere quiet and get the basics right first. A place like Royalla down south is ideal; quiet, plenty of different road conditions, situations to practice and speed zones. Drive the learner down there then let them take over. Let them get the basic road craft right so that when they get onto the busier roads, they’re more prepared.

An L-plater doing 60 in a 90 zone on Parkes Way and straying from his lane has no business being on a main road yet.

CoffinRX2 12:47 pm 04 Oct 10

If your son cannot even take off normally without stalling the car on a vacant road, let alone a busy one, then he is a liablity on our roads.

Diggety 12:08 pm 04 Oct 10

KUKU- agreed.

We are the most impatient drivers I’ve observed in any Australian city.

Captain RAAF 10:56 am 04 Oct 10

I blame YOU!

Firstly, stop teachong your kid bad driving habits, like pulling out of a driveway and stalling. Get him proper lessons or if you must drive him around, take hime somewhere where he won’t get in peoples way and then hand the car over to him. Not once did I have an L plate on my car except the few lessons I had. Learners, they’re a bloody embuggerance and stop good drivers from getting to important places, like centrelink and Floriade.

You want little johnny to be a good driver he better learn fast that it’s every man for himself out there and L platers, if they can’t pony up with the big boys, will be rightfully devoured.

grumpyrhonda 10:31 am 04 Oct 10

My eldest has now got P plates but while teaching them to drive, we were also surrounded my morons. Welcome to the world of L plate driving. It sucks.

anonymoose 10:19 am 04 Oct 10

Inconsiderate drivers on the road? I’d better tell the Internet about this!

Seriously though, what sort of comments do you want? Yes there are thoughtless drivers out there but that’s never going to be resolved so he’ll just have to get used to them. It’s a learning experience!

Sgt.Bungers 10:07 am 04 Oct 10

“With older drivers like that, no wonder so many P platers think they are invincible.”

Spot on.

vg 9:53 am 04 Oct 10

Get to the shops and pull them on about it. Most bogans crap themselves when not wrapped in a few hundred kg of metal

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