Michelago Ghost House Photo

This is nothing man – apparently a dude in Sydney discover Mary & Jebus in his lava lamp. (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24916527-13762,00.html). I didn’t believe Yummy Mummys story last week – but now I’m fully convinced.

I’ve had even a closer look at the face, and it definitely is for sure. In fact after further scientific analysis, I’m certain that it is not blood on the face -it is in fact faeces, and a large amount of it at that!

I see one in the high resolution shot, a disembodied dick-and-balls. See the space between the PH and 62? If you look below it, at around the level the trouser cuffs would be if they were straightened out, you see the glowing head of the apparition, facing the guy on the left, resting on the amply proportioned sack.

Is there a history of castrations gone awry on the Mount?

The apparition on the right seems to have a hard-on jammed down the left leg of his strides.

realityskin said :

yummy_mummy said :

Where exactly are the apparitions? I am not saying I don’t believe you, I’d just like you to point them out so we can all see them. Thanks

You have issues ………

Ok, I realise I have just been had…

yummy_mummy said :

Where exactly are the apparitions? I am not saying I don’t believe you, I’d just like you to point them out so we can all see them. Thanks

You have issues ………

Danman said :

Could someone please explain this then please…

When I took the photo, I noticed nothing out of the ordinary, but a few weeks later when I looked at the picture, I was shocked to see that there seemed to be 2 apparitions in my photo.

Ever since, I have been to chicken to go back to Mt Majura.

High res non 56k friendly link.

Where exactly are the apparitions? I am not saying I don’t believe you, I’d just like you to point them out so we can all see them. Thanks

Oh, Danman! You crack me up!!

I think it was the infamous bushrangers Brother Paddy and Brother Seamus who met an untimely doom whilst brewing whisky in their secret still at the top of the mountain. “Ye’ll never take us to hell so long as we pray, ye foul fiends from the flaming pit!” they yelled at the malingering grasping black tentacles; and their unquiet souls have been fated to pray each night from now until all eternity ….

Or something like that.

Could someone please explain this then please…

When I took the photo, I noticed nothing out of the ordinary, but a few weeks later when I looked at the picture, I was shocked to see that there seemed to be 2 apparitions in my photo.

Ever since, I have been to chicken to go back to Mt Majura.

High res non 56k friendly link.

What? The woolshed? I heard that the ghostly screams were due to an unfortunate shmelting accident ….

Ozhair. Embellishment found from a web site, waiting for the book.

http://hauntedaustralia.com/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=edfb9bea41de8e687f7ff45bed9395bf&topic=93.msg296

“This house used to be a brothel until some syko went and shot 3 prostitutes. Then it was changed into a hotel but due to the past and history – it eventually closed down…”

Hmmmm…

I did say “intriguing”, not “proof” 😉 Yeah, I know, I’m back. But it’s very quiet today.

The light on the face (in the old photo I linked to) doesn’t look right compared to the other faces in the pic (that’s the cameraman in me coming out again). Plus the anecdotal evidence that the person portrayed had died sometime previous to the photo being taken.

Of course, anecdotal evidence isn’t all that reliable, especially over time. For example, someone may “borrow” your photo and place it on their website, then decide to embellish the story behind it, concocting a story about a brutal murder in the house. Another person uses both photo and story for another website. Someone else includes it in a poorly researched book, etc, etc, until wherever you look, there’s anecdotal “proof” for the haunted house.

So, in regard to the airman photo, if someone was to present me with something that shows that the anecdotal evidence was wrong (eg; the photo was actually taken before the airman died), or show that if a person were to stand where the face in the photo was standing, a shadow would fall across the face, then I would be perfectly willing to admit I was wrong (This may aleady have been done. I haven’t researched that photo fully, it’s just one of the first “ghost face” photos I could think of that I found interesting)

But at least the face in that photo is undeniably a face. Not a random collection of pixels that 50% of people who look at it can’t see anything at all.

Regardless of all the technical speak, I get the impression of a face (if not 3) in the photo. Maybe ghosts are impressions of once living people. Maybe it just makes a good story to scare the kiddies with.

Having said that some of you may have already seen the image of Jesus. Proof…….

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l283/Psarah20/can-u-see-jesus.png

You go Yummy_mummy!

Ozhair said :

Anyway, in parting, here’s a “ghost face” photo that I do find rather intriguing:

I’m not trying to say you are completely wrong, I know the amount of flack I have received from my photo, but I believe that your ghost face may just be someone standing in the background. I’ve seen this picture on a number of sites and that seems to be their explanation as well.

Okay, I’m bowing out of this one. Obviously nothing I say will convince yummy_mummy otherwise. This doesn’t mean I’m conceding defeat, though. There’s only so long that one can stand banging one’s head against a brick wall.

I still think yummy_mummy needs to be more critical in her observations and thinking. To me it’s the sort of thinking that’s led to some fools believing we never landed on the moon, based on very shoddy photographic analysis.

Anyway, in parting, here’s a “ghost face” photo that I do find rather intriguing:

http://www.proofparanormal.com/images/freddy_jackson_lg_1_.jpg

Cheers

What would a professional cameraman with ten years’ experience know anyway?

Looks like a tree to me.

Perhaps we have different definitions of ‘proves’.

el said :

OMGWTFBBQ!!!!1!!one!! It’s so *clear* that it’s a face! You’se r all juzt being skeptics!

You just need to, um, enlarge the image hugely. And then adjust your monitor settings. Then fsck around with colour/hue/contrast settings in Photoshop.

Squinting whilst tilting your head to one side will also help.

Nice one el. The face can clearly be seen without playing around with the photo. I am just saying trying to adjust the photo brings out that face even more and proves it is not leaves, nor is it the same colour as the rest of the image.

OMGWTFBBQ!!!!1!!one!! It’s so *clear* that it’s a face! You’se r all juzt being skeptics!

You just need to, um, enlarge the image hugely. And then adjust your monitor settings. Then fsck around with colour/hue/contrast settings in Photoshop.

Squinting whilst tilting your head to one side will also help.

Ozhair said :

Yes, the higher resolution does make the pattern of a “face” a little more obvious, but it also creates another problem, in that it can now be determined that a lot of the colour information that makes up the right hand side of the face matches the colouring of the leaves outside the window

The leaves outside the window are green while the face is a grayish brown. How can the face match the colouring of the leaves outside the window?

yummy_mummy: Thanks for emailing the original pic. I was right in assuming the original was much larger. So… Yes, the higher resolution does make the pattern of a “face” a little more obvious, but it also creates another problem, in that it can now be determined that a lot of the colour information that makes up the right hand side of the face matches the colouring of the leaves outside the window, while the rest still matches the colour info in the lower left window pane. So unfortunately, for me, this increases my opinion that this is simply an optical illusion, made up of different elements.

yummy_mummy said :

You are contradicting yourself here. Proving that a face can be seen in a darkened house with bright sunlight outside is just like proving the very existence of ghosts. How do you explain other photos of ghosts taken in dimly lit or darkened rooms? These mysterious orbs that show up in other photos seem to be a source of light. So maybe ghosts have a way of emitting their own light.

Sorry, but I’m hardly contradicting myself. I’ve offered an analysis based on actual experimentation and the physics of the known world, as opposed to an assumption based on very little evidence and unproven theories about how the paranormal MIGHT appear (which seem to change to support whatever piece of unreliable evidence is being presented)

And please don’t get me started on “orbs”. If orbs generate their own light, then please point me to a single orb photo or piece of footage where illumination in the scene has not been supplied by a camera flash or infrared light, which, when combined with a cheap lens, will turn any bit of floating dust or moisture into an orb.

You’re presenting what you claim to be something extraordinary. The onus is on you to be able to back that up.

Ozhair said :

With a darkened house and bright sunlight outside, anything more than a few inches away from the window wouldn’t be visible. I was a news cameraman for ten years, I’ve tried shooting through windows in various circumstances, and I’m very confident that what you describe wouldn’t be possible here.

You are contradicting yourself here. Proving that a face can be seen in a darkened house with bright sunlight outside is just like proving the very existence of ghosts. How do you explain other photos of ghosts taken in dimly lit or darkened rooms? These mysterious orbs that show up in other photos seem to be a source of light. So maybe ghosts have a way of emitting their own light.

yummy_mummy said :

imhotep said :

“I’m a skeptic, but I wouldn’t like to spend a night alone in that house.

If you don’t believe in ghosts, then what do you have to be afraid of?”

Rationally, I’m pretty sure that ghosts don’t exist. But I’m not that sure. There is no rational explanation for a lot of the things we feel. That doesn’t necessarily make them less real, nor mean that there is nothing there.

yummy_mummy said :

Perhaps the face is not directly in the window, maybe it is a few feet away from the actual window.

With a darkened house and bright sunlight outside, anything more than a few inches away from the window wouldn’t be visible. I was a news cameraman for ten years, I’ve tried shooting through windows in various circumstances, and I’m very confident that what you describe wouldn’t be possible here.

yummy_mummy said :

Try adjusting the Hue/Brightness/Contrast on this picture in Photoshop/Paint Shop Pro etc. You’ll clearly see that the face doesn’t match the colour of the material that covers the rest of the window. Adjusting will also bring out the face even more.

Yup, did that. The section of the window I’m comparing the “face” to is the bottom left pane. All the colour elements of the face are present in this portion of the window.

I have just noticed a problem, though, that may be affecting my analysis. The version of the photo I download from the site you’ve linked to is only 1000×666 pixels. But you say you took the photo with a 10 megapixel camera, which means the original pic should be much larger. It may have been compressed by the photo-sharing site you’re using.

If the original is of higher resolution, I may be willing to reconsider my analysis. Feel free to email it to me at: pat(at)caliburnproductions(dot)com

Ozhair said :

The colouring of the face is the same as whatever material is covering the rest of the window. Do you concede that this is a strong argument for the “face” being an illusion?

Try adjusting the Hue/Brightness/Contrast on this picture in Photoshop/Paint Shop Pro etc. You’ll clearly see that the face doesn’t match the colour of the material that covers the rest of the window. Adjusting will also bring out the face even more.

Ozhair said :

The scale of the face seems to be abnormally small, maybe six inches tall, if that. Do you have a response to this?

Perhaps the face is not directly in the window, maybe it is a few feet away from the actual window.

Disposable; That’s the face I saw as well, but it’s not the one yummy_mummy is referring to.

yummy_mummy; Your logic seems to be “You don’t see what I see, therefore you must be a skeptic to all things paranormal”. Sorry, but that’s not the case with me. I believe in the paranormal, and I’ve had a couple of experiences of my own. But unfortunately I can’t support your “face”.

As I said before, I believe that any eveidence of the paranormal has to be able to stand up to scrutiny. Then, if it denies all rational explanations, it can be held up as something extraordinary. Your photo unfortunately fails that test, big time.

The simple fact that some people can’t even see the face should be indicative that a certain amount of optical illusion is going on.

You challenged us to analyse your photo. I did a quick analysis which you seemed to ignore. So, please respond to these couple of basic observations:

The scale of the face seems to be abnormally small, maybe six inches tall, if that. Do you have a response to this?

The colouring of the face is the same as whatever material is covering the rest of the window. Do you concede that this is a strong argument for the “face” being an illusion?

I want to be blown away by evidence of the paranormal. I really do. But while the paranormal field continues to be swamped by photos of orbs, pareidolia “faces” and blind faith over critical analysis, it will continue to be mocked by the many.

yumy_mummy, I know you WANT this photo to be something special, that you FEEL that it is. But if you disengage those parts of your brain, re-engage your critical faculties, and be totally, truthfully honest with yourself, you might come to a different conclusion, and open yourself up to a new, and no less amazing, view of the world.

imhotep said :

I’m a skeptic, but I wouldn’t like to spend a night alone in that house.

If you don’t believe in ghosts, then what do you have to be afraid of?

I’m a skeptic, but I wouldn’t like to spend a night alone in that house.

If you click on the first photo then enlarge it you can clearly see a face on the tree next to the window.

I believe that the OP is genuine in her belief, but I respectfully chose to not believe.

Still looking for that photo thumper 🙂

I saw a face in my wheetbix this morning .. *cue spooky scarey music* … it HAS to be the face of someone who died eating weetbix on this bit of land 6 years , 23 days ago ?!

I see the face and it sent shivers down my spine. I am not going to sleep well tonight, because I believe.

BTW. I have been told 20 years ago that the house in question was locked up as if the occupants had just gone out with all of the furniture still in place.

The place should be burnt to the ground and salt spread over the grounds so nothig can grow there.

I know alot of you are skeptical of this picture and most of you are telling yourselves there is nothing in the picture. I didn’t really think much of the picture myself when I first took it. It took me 24 hours to find this face in the picture, but I feel that it found me. I was not looking for ghosts in the picture, I was just looking at the detail of the house itself but I was drawn towards this face and it made me feel kind of uncomfortable looking at it for the first few times. When I studied this face more, it did not look scary to me at all, but it looked kind of sad or lonely. From all of the rumored histories of this house and stories of people visiting the house and being ‘trapped’ inside from tables moving in front of the door. i have a feeling that if a ghost did exist in this house, that it may be lonely and just wants some company – to an extent that it would go out of its way to keep people from getting outside.

Thats my point of view on this topic. I believe in ghosts since I have seen and heard alot of things that cannot be explained by science. I do not care if people think this is a load of cr^p. I took this photo, and I feel the connection to it. Perhaps some of you skeptics will have some kind of experience from beyond one day, do you think people will believe you? Probably not. But it’s YOU who knows exactly what happened and no one can tell you otherwise.

The photo was taken using a 10.3 Megapixel Kodak Easyshare digital camera.

…The girl has posted something interesting…

Do you have the same camera as her, ’cause I can’t see that either. 🙁

yummy_mummy said :

You’ll clearly see that this is the face of something, if not a ghost. We never anticipated to see a face in our photo.

Obviously its not that clear if this “face” needs to be pointed out so much.

I think you knew the house had a reputation and so were expecting to see something.

Besides, ghosts are being killed off by mobile phones http://www.cronaca.com/archives/001460.html

I agree that it is an interesting photo, and yummy mummy was brave to post it.

I can see a face quite clearly, but it certainly could be that pareidolia thing.

I guess my point was just that a face in a window is hardly unusual. That place is known to attract thrill seekers, yes?

Anyhow, welcome to RA yummy mummy!

: )

Seriously, I can’t really tell that it is a face.

Ouch! 😀

yummy_mummy

*sigh* Always a shame when thick people manage to breed before they take themselves out of the gene pool.

It does appear to be a face.

Then again, ‘Face Seen in a Window’ is hardly likely to make the National news.

It would be interesting if there was no logical reason whatsoever to expect that it could be any ordinary old person looking out the window.

IT’s either Michael Jackon or Elvis..

It kind of looks like a face. You could probably find dozens of ‘faces’ in that photo if you wanted to. Have you ever seen what you think is a human shape in the dark, only to discover in the light of day that it’s a tree stump or something.

The face on mars is good example. The old photo looks like a face, the newer high res shot taken at a different time of day, when the shadows where different, looks like a plain old mountain.

The only thing that stands out clearly in the image is that face (and you have to be blind if you can’t see it)

What an idiot. Blood smeared on the cheek? You sound like some kind of pervert.

yummy_mummy, I don’t always zoom past this house. I usually cruise past and check out who’s there, because going past at night over the years there’s normally some thrill seekers there of a weekend. I’ve also been in the house a couple of times (about 10 years ago was the last).

Sorry, I’m just telling it like it is. Never seen anything remotely paranormal, and I don’t think your photo shows anything.

Pareidolia

The term pareidolia describes a psychological phenomenon involving a vague and random stimulus (often an image or sound) being perceived as significant. Common examples include seeing images of animals or faces in clouds, the man in the moon, and hearing hidden messages on records played in reverse.

Call me blind yummy_mummy, but this is a much more plausible explanation than it being a ghost.

Okay mummy, here’s my analysis of the original photo.

First point, is that it was taken at speed, thus introducing a slight amount of blur, degrading the sharpness of what is already a low-quality image (phone camera?)Kind of ironically, the height of the original image is 666 pixels 😉

I was wrong about the size. The “face” isn’t 10×5 pixels, it’s a whole 12×8 pixels, far too little resolution to be able to determine “blood” on the face.

Assuming the window it’s appearing in is approximately 4 foot high, the face is tiny, maybe 6 inches or so.

The colouring of the rest of the window suggests there is either a board or curtain across the window, allowing plentry of texture to create random images.

Honestly, I see a face much more clearly in the greenery just next to the window than in the window itself.

mummy, I’m not a die-hard skeptic, and I don’t want to rain on your parade. I’m very open to evidence of the paranormal. But that evidence needs to stand up to scrutiny, rather than being accepted on blind faith and wishes.

The only thing that stands out clearly in the image is that face

Strike me down for suggesting such but at 100kmh even a picture of a person on a P+S digital, even a good SLR may have a strong tendancy* to look like a ghost due to motion blur which is quite evident in your pictures.

Im glad to see that it is not just me that can not see it.
I thought I was retarded, I could not see it, but im not alone..

I’m still retarded though 🙂

*Not saying this was the case, just suggesting that this may have been the case.

BUSTIN’ MAKES ME FEEL GOOD!

Madame Workalot said :

I drive past this house twice a day, every day – can’t say I’ve ever seen anything remotely ghost-like.

How can you see anything when you zoom past at 100KM/hr? If you blink, you’ll literally miss this house, it’s hidden by trees.

Anybody care to download the original photo in its original size and have a zoom around it? You’ll clearly see that this is the face of something, if not a ghost. We drove past this house at 100KM p/hr and took the photos on the sports (very fast shutter) setting. The only thing that stands out clearly in the image is that face (and you have to be blind if you can’t see it) amongst the blur of the tree leaves. We weren’t looking for ghosts when we took the photo, we were just taking photos of the house because it took us so long to actually find it… we had read about it on RioACT and had been looking for the house on a couple of trips we made to Victoria in the last couple of months. We only found the house on our last trip, and decided to take a photo for keepsake this time. We never anticipated to see a face in our photo.

Pareidolia – that’s the word I was trying to think of. Thanks Dante.

Ok – it was me, you know with the way rent is in Canberra these days, it was all we could afford.

And the blood is just a nose-picking session gone wrong.

Nothing to see here – move along…..

Oh my God – it’s the Lizard King!

Jimbo, is that you????

Pareidolia is an amazing phenomenon!

BS

There some people with some seriously warped imaginations! What f**king face, and furthermore – a bloodstained face? Or was than a mistake caused by your cloning brush in Photoshop?

Stung said :

can’t see anything remotely near a face – delete plz.

Are you the judge, the jury and the prosecutor?

Its a ghost family.

Orbs are the ghosts of battery eggs.

Here here, on the orbs opinions 😛

can’t see anything remotely near a face – delete plz.

Thuumper – Only on film.

Orbs are dust, picked up by flash/light and digital sensor.

I have mocked up ghost photos in the past but only have ever captured weird stuff at Yarralumla Brickworks.

Once again its just your mind making it up for you, its not actually there, but it looks cool none the less… Ill do a crop this arvo after work, host it and post a link.

Funnily enough – middle of teh day at Yarralumla Brickworks, and I still get the heebie jeebies bigtime, mainly from heritage value methinks, but I winder if anyone ever died there. Plenty of people died in industrial accident at the turn of the 1900’s

I have had plenty of weird stuff happen to me while on my late night jaunts, but never really captured it, more the powers of ones solitary late night imagination i think..

WTF, is this a flashback or something?

There’s a ‘haunted’ room in a house at Port Arthur, Tas. that keeps showing white ‘spirts’ in tourists photos. The sign said it had been checked by photography experts and the like, but nothing had come of it…just an unexplainable thing..I was too chicken to try it for myself (being 10 at the time, I think thats fair enough!) but when we head there in a few months time, I’m def going to do it then, just for the laugh.

So THAT’S the ghost house! I’ve always wondered about that place, and wondered why someone didn’t fix it up. It’s so close to the road though.

Looks to solid and lifelike to be a ghost house – I can’t even see through it.

Could be…

She is smiling and looks happy to me. Nice high cheek bones. I saw her in the big picture with the circle. I saw an older, bald looking man and a young person, in the close up insert. Cool.

Yeah, sorry mummy, but this falls squarely into the area of “matrixing” where the human maind tries to make sense of random shapes, same as seeing things in the pattern of the clouds.

It’s especially prevalent when you zoom in on a digital photo so much that you’re trying to make sense of an area about 10×5 pixels.

Notice there is blood smeared on the cheek of the face.

I barely noticed a face.

I drive past this house twice a day, every day – can’t say I’ve ever seen anything remotely ghost-like.

Cool photo though – if you squint, turn around and hold your head to the side…. 😛

Looks like a branch with some brownish leaves reflecting the afternoon sun.

But could be a ghost, goul, banshee, spirit, faerie, honest politician, helpful helpdesk person, grue, igor, werewolf, vampire, golem, forest god or other mythical creature if you wish to believe it is

…so is this a joke and I didn’t look at the photo long enough for something to pop out, or is this proof that ghosts don’t exist and people have amazing imaginations.

I couldn’t see anything.