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More School Drama

jennybel75 13 September 2007 93

After last weeks’ student with weapons drama at Telopia comes this further incident at St Francis of Asissi Primary

Interesting times in our schools. Thoughts?


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Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 10:42 am 20 Sep 07

Yeah, they should take responsibility, but not be charged. They’re two different things, imo. Maybe the police could work with the parents in finding a suitable punishment/way to get him back on the right track?

nyssa76 nyssa76 11:26 pm 19 Sep 07

To take responsibility for their son’s actions for a start DMD.

How hard is that to understand? He’s 10yo. If he’s like this now, what do you think he will be like when he gets to high school – I dread the thought.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 1:11 am 19 Sep 07

But did they know where he was?
What do you want them to do? Microchip him?

nyssa76 nyssa76 7:06 am 18 Sep 07

Once a child leaves a school – and the parent is always notified – then the student becomes the concern of the parent, not the school.

I find it hard to believe that his parents didn’t know he had wagged.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 10:07 pm 17 Sep 07

“but I’m sure it’s still beyond impossible” was meant to be “but I’m sure it’s still not beyond possible”

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 10:06 pm 17 Sep 07

A parent CAN ring any time, but how many, do you reckon, actually do? My parents sure as hell didn’t. If the school rang them about unexplained absences, I’d cop it, that was the deal.
Skipping school wasn’t hard when I was young. I don’t know, it might have gotten harder, but I’m sure it’s still beyond impossible. How is the parent expected to definatly track him down if he’s waltzed off school grounds and gone god-knows-where? When a kid skips school without his parents knowledge, that was the action of the parent, not the child.
The parents are the ones who step in and discipline the child afterwards. For all we know – this kid might be grounded till his thirty now.

nyssa76 nyssa76 9:01 pm 17 Sep 07

DMD, here’s a reality check for you – if you have a child, you are responsible for them and you are also responsible to make sure they GO TO SCHOOL.

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to work that out.

A parent can call their child’s school ANY TIME during, before and after school hours. Some schools even have, get this, SMS messaging and e-mails sent to parents. Another form of contact is a pre-recorded message sent to the parents home phone number. Gee, I don’t know how schools do it…

This actually helps parents – with children who are constant truants – to know if their child is in class.

As someone who actually works in a school, that’s what the front office is for – the 1st point of call for PARENTS.

Perhaps you can have those facts and I’ll raise you a shot of ignorance.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 7:17 pm 17 Sep 07

So the parent gets a sudden telepathic alert that their child is not at school, then rings the school to check? Okay. Better than them ringing the school every day and annoying the hell out of whomever works at reception.
Facts are wonderful, Nyssa. But un-backed facts mean jack-squat to anyone.

nyssa76 nyssa76 6:07 pm 17 Sep 07

Maybe they’re saving the fencing for the sausage factory that will go there instead?

Thumper Thumper 4:32 pm 17 Sep 07

Ginninderra High has a big fence around it.

Pity there is no longer a school….

justbands justbands 4:11 pm 17 Sep 07

OK, I’ll look, however thinking through the schools in my area (+ the one my son goes to), none of them have big fences around them at all.

nyssa76 nyssa76 4:09 pm 17 Sep 07

justabands, have a look at a few Govt and Non-Govt schools. They were the ‘biggest thing’ a few years ago.

nyssa76 nyssa76 4:08 pm 17 Sep 07

DMD, a child is still a parents responsibility. It’s called pick up the phone and call the school.

And yes I do know something you don’t. It astounds me that it wasn’t mentioned in the release as we are talking student safety here. You can think what you like, but I sure as hell would like to know why only 1/2 the story was told.

So if you feel that is ridiculous, so be it. I don’t need to give a reason, I stated a fact – not all the information was given in the release. Simple really.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 12:16 pm 17 Sep 07

But the question is, Nyssa; how are the parent supposed to know whether he’s a school when they’re at work?
And you probably should have kept mum about the AFP report. Don’t get me wrong, I honestly do believe you know something we all don’t. But the fact that you’re pushing a theory without giving any reason whatsoever makes you sound just ridiculous. Sorry.

Maelinar Maelinar 10:26 am 17 Sep 07

Charge: inefficient parenting.

Punishment: 3 warnings and you face a custodial hearing with the state over custody of your children.

Thumper Thumper 9:36 am 17 Sep 07

Fences would be a great idea and would eliminate this sort of issue.

however, it would also take away school ovals for community use.

justbands justbands 9:19 am 17 Sep 07

> DMD, take a look around, most schools have those huge black fences.

Errrr…no school I know of.

Tiffo Tiffo 7:57 am 17 Sep 07

40 years ago it was not an offence to slap a naughty child across the face, or give the boy the strap across the palm. Nuns and brothers where good at this.

Amazing how it would quickly make a child appreciate what is appropriate in society and what is not. It would usually have an immediate behavioral change on the part of the child for the better.

nyssa76 nyssa76 7:50 am 17 Sep 07

DMD, take a look around, most schools have those huge black fences.

The Education Act is meant to go after parents if a child truants, only most schools don’t want to be known as a truanting school so they don’t report it.

Parents are responsible for their children. If he wasn’t in school, then they are responsible to make sure he is either 1) returned to school or 2) find suitable care. Simple really.

As for the AFP report, I’ll stick to the source which actually saw the entire situation from start to finish thanks. So you can insinuate I know nothing about it and am making shit up, but I will not name them. ACTDET do read this site.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 1:35 am 17 Sep 07

Schools don’t have fences, Nyssa. Any kid can just walk out any time he wants, really. Or, he can just keep walking past the bus stop. He just needs the guts. Hell, I did a couple of times. That makes the Education Act pretty stupid in that respect, in my opinion.
What I’m saying is that some, not all, kids will rebel against their parents, be it behavioral issues, peer pressure, media influences – I don’t know what, no matter how much their parents have ‘taught’ them. We don’t know the situation or what this kids problem really is. It’s a bit early to be calling for his parents heads.
And what on earth are you backing this AFP claim of yours with? I know it’s the internet here and unsubtantied claims are the rule of the day, but..umm…how is it not worth whatever the hell it’s printed on?
And smack, we all know the cops were really behind this. I don’t know how, but I’ll make some crap up…

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