28 July 2008

Murder most foul in Charnwood

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[First filed: July 26, 2008 @ 08:59]

The ABC reports that a woman was fatally stabbed to at the Charnwood shops at 8pm.

She died at the hospital shortly afterwards.

UPDATED: As noted in the comments the ABC now reports that the victim was a 43 yr old woman from Dunlop and there was a large argument outside the take-away leading to the violence. Another woman is being questioned and police are seeking witnesses.

Further update The Herald Sun informs us of murder charges laid against a 35 year old Charnwood woman.

Update made with a degree of nervousness: Automated monitoring has brought up a discussion of this from the nazi filth at Stormfront. I can’t understand their point without learning to read rascist-scum but maybe someone else can translate?

ANOTHER UPDATE: The AFP has finally made a brief statement.

UPDATE: Radio reports that bail has been refused. The ABC report is now online. And we have a name: Rebecca Anne Massey stands accused. Apparently she has a history of knife crime, well done your honours with previous lenient sentences, they’ve worked out well haven’t they?

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The truth will B told

Referring to your posts 90 and 95

It dosen’t take Einstein to fugure this one out why Rebecca Massey was carring an illegal weapon such as a knife, sounds like intend to murder and to cause grievously bodyly harm, or did she have good intentions to volunteer assist staff to chop BBQ chickens on such a busy night, but no the evil person took someone’s life and didn’t consider the innocent child that belonged to Lizzy and her own child, this will affect these children for the rest of their lives.
Mick Marshall and Rebecca Massey DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS???????????????

ABC is reporting that Justice Refshauge is pondering the question of bail for Rebecca Anne Massey.

Ms Massey has applied for bail on the grounds of special circumstances involving her family.

Justice Richard Refshauge will hand down his decision on Friday.

AngryHenry, for the record the only suburb built sans guvvie housing has been O’Malley. Even Forrest has guvvies – houses, that is, not flats.

not quite true I-filed. Weetangera was also all privately built however Housing ACT managed to get one property there on the redeveloped service station site around ‘04ish

I’m pretty sure Hawker was also all privately built. Even the blocks of flats at Murrangi st were privately owned.

It may only be early but I think I need some charcoal Chicken today… can we go off topic and suggest the best one in Canberra!

Is Massey/Edwards the VERY tall and striking a.k.a. Melissa Edwards who was jailed for armed robbery a few years ago? Does anyone know? She put on European accents, and also managed to convince the local Indigenous welfare help people that she was Indigenous. She claimed to have worked at Canberra Girls Grammar, where she apparently hoodwinked them too by putting on a persona. Amazing and dreadful girl! Had to hand it to her – she was bright.

DJ said :

Why did she kill someone?

Was there no charcoal chickens left?

Noooooooooooooooo!

Shades of the Gruen Transfer: Nooooooo! But it’s the HOME of the Charcoal Chicken! … [cut to trailer park]

tx jazz, tx sepi. I suppose parts of Nouveau Gungahlin might be guvvie free as well…

I thought Chapman was also govvie-free – that may have changed after the fires though.

I-filed said :

AngryHenry, for the record the only suburb built sans guvvie housing has been O’Malley. Even Forrest has guvvies – houses, that is, not flats.

not quite true I-filed. Weetangera was also all privately built however Housing ACT managed to get one property there on the redeveloped service station site around ’04ish

Allegedly…

Why is bec getting the blame?

Err. She stabbed someone 7 times which resulted in their death maybe??

She’s a lowlife scumbag with previous who probably shouldn’t have been on our streets in the first place??

The Truth Will B Told – If you are defending her then perhaps you are also a danger to society?

The Truth Will B Told said :

Why is bec getting the blame?

When two people have a fight and the loser if left looking like swiss cheese they tend to ask a few questions.

Granny & Thumper. No it’s still open, picked up a berry yogurt there last night.

I went to the shop about 9:00pm on Fri and obviously the shop was shut then but it opened the next day.

The poor owners already lost 1 night trade and it’s probably their biggest night.

I heard that the charcoal chicken place is closed.

Why did she kill someone?

Was there no charcoal chickens left?

Noooooooooooooooo!

Truthy – “Why is bec getting the blame?”… know her do you or did she leave her angels wings and halo at your place 30 odd years ago before she fell to earth?

Deadmandrinking10:01 pm 30 Jul 08

Mælinar – *spoiler alert* I’ve seen S04E13 said :

Lets really not take this too much further…

How do you know? Any prison warden will back up the veracity of that statement.

Might it differ from case to case? Naturally it differs from case to case, everybody is an individual afterall.

I’ve given up preaching to you that perhaps you should read things a little more closely.

1) I said ‘how do you know?’ because you would have only really been exposed to them being inside, not outside. It doesn’t matter how many prison wardens will back you up.

2) Yes, we agree. But you were wrong the first time by saying ‘their lives are better on the inside’ because you did not say ‘for some, their lives are better’ or something along those lines. That’s what I was pulling you up on.

Does that make sense?

Mælinar - *spoiler alert* I've seen S04E139:12 pm 30 Jul 08

Lets really not take this too much further…

How do you know? Any prison warden will back up the veracity of that statement.

Might it differ from case to case? Naturally it differs from case to case, everybody is an individual afterall.

I’ve given up preaching to you that perhaps you should read things a little more closely.

Deadmandrinking8:45 pm 30 Jul 08

Mælinar – *spoiler alert* I’ve seen S04E13 said :

Any prison warden will back up the veracity of that statement.

Naturally it differs from case to case, everybody is an individual afterall.

Well…the first line there’s kind of countered by the second. You said ‘their lives are better on the inside than on the outside’. But yes, let’s agree on the second line…

Mælinar - *spoiler alert* I've seen S04E138:37 pm 30 Jul 08

Any prison warden will back up the veracity of that statement.

Naturally it differs from case to case, everybody is an individual afterall.

Deadmandrinking8:29 pm 30 Jul 08

Mælinar – *spoiler alert* I’ve seen S04E13 said :

Dragonflygal – from the perspective of somebody who has been in the business of turning the keys and ‘pegging’ for a short time, their lives are better on the inside, than the outside.

How do you know? You’ve only seen them inside. Might it differ from case to case?

(NOTE: Wow! No insults.)

Mælinar - *spoiler alert* I've seen S04E138:22 pm 30 Jul 08

*Puts prison warden cap on*

Dragonflygal – from the perspective of somebody who has been in the business of turning the keys and ‘pegging’ for a short time, their lives are better on the inside, than the outside.

I’m not saying their lives are easy on the inside, I’m simply stating that in more cases than I care to recall, a regular timetable of things to do and regular meals is a far sight better than their options on the outside.

In advance, yes, in all of their circumstances the sex is more regular as well.

The Truth Will B Told8:12 pm 30 Jul 08

maybe there was no chickens but still, why diddnt the mother just leave.

whats with the adult match maker i think someone is lost!!!!!

wrong site mate

dragonflygal8:08 pm 30 Jul 08

It’s quite an assumption that those in gaol have it easy. I agree that they are there to pay for their crime, but life in prison isn’t easy for the vast majority. Spending your time wondering when the next mass fight is going to break out (amongst groups of inmates, or inmates vs the “screws”), being locked in a cell and constantly watching your back wouldn’t be an easy life. If a fight breaks out between the guards and the inmates, as a prisoner you jump in or you’re seen as a dog and you’ll be next. Then you wait in your cell afterwards for the guards to get around to giving you your due.

Yes, they need to be punished. But to suggest it’s an easy life is lacking a little perspective.

And as someone who had a stable home, loving family, food on the table etc etc, it’s easy for me not to lead a life of crime. People make choices about their lives, but I imagine growing up with drug addicted parents, not caring if you go to school, and having to be responsible for your younger siblings doesn’t make for an easy childhood or the best start to life. Some people are born into situations that are extremely hard to cope with and even harder to break out of. Others choose the lifestyle.

Uh oh, Cherie’s been drinking again.

Sweetie, you are going to get torn to shreds on here. Save yourself the aggravation and go back to adultmatchmaker.

Oh you’re going to be fun….

The Truth Will B Told7:28 pm 30 Jul 08

I dont know why there was a knife there?

But people dont know the resons behide the truth?

How did they know each other?

Why did it get so out of hand when there were children around?

There is so much more then just the neighbour hood and oh the family once again people always go on what they see on tv and read in papers,,

Why diddnt that woman grab her kid and run away,,

why did she stay and fight?

Why is bec getting the blame?

How do u know the lady could have pulled that knife on her?

DMD, VG:

The next time either of you abuse each other or anyone else on this site you’re going into the mod queue.

I don’t care who started it, I’m just not having it here.

Having worked with countless maggots like the Masseys/Edwards, I would say the majority go by several names. I guess its an attempt to get away with more.

One thing’s for sure – people like them are putting evolution in reverse. I swear I heard Rebecca Edwards-Massey make a “beeep beeep” noise as she walked into the courtroom the other day.

at least you got into emergency gov housing, I got to go to Ainslie village – pretty close to inhumane conditions there

Peterh I don’t know if it had anything to with it and I would hope for the needy that it didn’t, but even though I was legally homeless having been kicked out of home with no money and a stat dec saying I no longer had family support and that I was cut off, I did come from a privileged background with everything provided. Maybe housing thought I wouldn’t be able to cope in the big bad world and gave me a hand. I was only out of home for two weeks going from friend to friend before they got me a flat. And although it was in scumsville 90210 it was quite a nice little flat.

It sure was real eye opener though being thrust into the world of the great unwashed and underprivileged. Although I do have plenty of entertaining bed time stories from my two years of squalor, before I picked myself up from the gutter.

hairy nosed wombat4:52 pm 30 Jul 08

smack said :

Matthew Massey is a Bank Robber
Rebecca Massey was married to Matthew Massey, but not any longer, so now uses the name Edwards.
Gavin Massey is Matthews’s brother and has been in a fair bit of trouble.

Rebecca Massey has the maiden/unmarried/(whatever the current PC term is) name of Edwards. From what i understand she has separated from Matthew, and uses both names

Deadmandrinking said :

Well I had to live in a shoe-box, in the middle of a lake…

luxury. I dreamed of shoebox in middle of lake, but the act government thought that ainslie village was ok, they were planning to send me to oaks estate….

Deadmandrinking4:36 pm 30 Jul 08

Well I had to live in a shoe-box, in the middle of a lake…

FB said :

If a person has nothing to loose then they have reason to behave.

Obviously that’s ment to be NO reason to behave.

at least you got into emergency gov housing, I got to go to Ainslie village – pretty close to inhumane conditions there….

If a person has nothing to loose then they have reason to behave.

Obviously that’s ment to be NO reason to behave.

No privileges, no internet, no phone, small cell with 3 meals a day and an hour or two exercise. seems to me that the people in prison are better off than many of the homeless people. This is wrong.

Hard time should be hard. Make them suffer from no internet or phones, monthly access by family, etc.

stop making the prisons into holiday camps, change the mind set that prison will be tough.

Peterh I fully agree. In my youth I was one of the underprivileged living in poverty in Emergency Gov housing flats. Although I myself wasn’t a criminal I saw its work first hand. There was a 17yr old kid who lived in the flat below me who would regularly run fowl of local constabulary. He was a skinny weedy dirty kid who’d rather spend his dole money on goon & smokes rather than food or clothes. The cops would pick him for some infraction or other and take him away to Quamby where he’d fatten up & have his clothes washed or new ones provided, then they would let him out. He told me one day he didn’t mind Quamby as they had TV, Table tennis a pool etc and they would go on outing to the movies etc if they were good. And when they locked him he got food & clothes. The only think he didn’t like was that he couldn’t get grog. He did however have access to pot as it was apparently easy to get in. In the two years he was at the flats I don’t think he spent more than 3 months out of Quamby at any time. A real deterrent that one!

On the other hand I don’t believe in locking someone up and treating them like a dog. There is a happy medium. I read an article about a US prison which was criticised for installing TV’s in every cell. The warden came out and said the TV’s were provided as way to control the prisoners. If a person has nothing to loose then they have reason to behave. By giving them access to a television with limited channels they had a simply effective way of punishing the prisoners. A good idea I thought. Apparently the bad behaviour of the prisoners halved almost instantly.

Deadmandrinking4:12 pm 30 Jul 08

chaton said :

to regularbrowse 77 – though we have the same offenders it is hardly interesting organise crime.

Although I would like to see something pop up about the sex industry in Canberra, considering the amount of Politicians and Senior Public Servants in this town. Would be an interesting, perhaps explosive read.

After reading all the news story links this is what I have come up with.

Matthew Massey is a Bank Robber
Rebecca Massey was married to Matthew Massey, but not any longer, so now uses the name Edwards.
Gavin Massey is Matthews’s brother and has been in a fair bit of trouble.

It appears all the family have been in trouble with the Cops.

I’m a genius

to regularbrowse 77 – though we have the same offenders it is hardly interesting organise crime.

AngryHenry, for the record the only suburb built sans guvvie housing has been O’Malley. Even Forrest has guvvies – houses, that is, not flats.

regularbrowse5:49 pm 29 Jul 08

My condolences to the 43 year old victim’s family. Especially her children.

But was not shocked when the name of the accused was broadcast.The Massey family is well known to anyone who has worked in the ACT court system. Suspect in a lot of ways Rebecca is also a victim.

Sadly the recent loss of the Canberra Time’s veteran court reporter Rod Campbell means we are never likely to see a comprehensive book on the ACT’s crime underbelly published. It would make for interesting reading. Maybe Ch9 should consider a new crime TV series? I hear one of the underbelly screen writers lives in Canberra.

Hey is it just me are people being a little callous? What’s with all the “bogan” comments and the other snide remarks? Even the headline “Murder Most Foul” is a little flippant, I think (would it have been the same if she was stabbed in Reid and wearing a Carla Zampatti frock?). A woman just died. Come on, people, grow up.

AngryHenry said :

peterh said :

Crikey said :

Bogan’s live in the govie flats around Kingston and Griffith. They should all be moved out to Charnwood so we have one bogan suburb.

hey, lets get charnwood back and move all the bogans into manuka and kingston. over the “good” side of the lake.

Yeah that works!!!! Let’s introduce a little thing into our society called “SEGREGATION” while we’re at it let’s get the Stormfront guys to organise it.

The amount of F*CKTARDS who’ve posted smart-ar*ed comments on here is a sad indictment of where society is headed…

Put yourselves into the shoes of the little girl in this situation.

It’s horrifying, and it’s made even moreso by people’s insensitivities.

but for some of us, angryhenry, the thought of our kids witnessing so horrible a crime is enough for us.

I believe that the suburb isn’t the problem, it is the fact that the ACT judiciary are far too lenient.

If you want serious discussion, consider that this person may be a repeat offender, has been in our system for too long, and needs to be SEGREGATED from society. Rehabilitated if she can, locked up if she can’t. No privileges, no internet, no phone, small cell with 3 meals a day and an hour or two exercise. seems to me that the people in prison are better off than many of the homeless people. This is wrong.

Hard time should be hard. Make them suffer from no internet or phones, monthly access by family, etc.

stop making the prisons into holiday camps, change the mind set that prison will be tough.

Oh, and to add to that…her name wasn’t Gavin, VG.

Maybe she’s post-op now?

Mælinar - *spoiler alert* I've seen S04E131:32 pm 29 Jul 08

I don’t know who the Massey’s are. As far as I am concerned it is a reasonable university in Central New Zealand.

JB – I think VG was right in this case, somebody’s head is up their ass. There’s no personal abuse in that comment.

peterh said :

Crikey said :

Bogan’s live in the govie flats around Kingston and Griffith. They should all be moved out to Charnwood so we have one bogan suburb.

hey, lets get charnwood back and move all the bogans into manuka and kingston. over the “good” side of the lake.

Yeah that works!!!! Let’s introduce a little thing into our society called “SEGREGATION” while we’re at it let’s get the Stormfront guys to organise it.

The amount of F*CKTARDS who’ve posted smart-ar*ed comments on here is a sad indictment of where society is headed…

Put yourselves into the shoes of the little girl in this situation.

It’s horrifying, and it’s made even moreso by people’s insensitivities.

C’mon VG, you’ve been doing so well.

No need for the personal abuse when making your point.

“We all know who the Massey’s are, VG.”

So you’re 100% sure that everyone on this site knows?

Head….bumhole….remove

Re Thumper@55,

Sounds like the alleged offender is pretty confident the alleged murder weapon will not be found, making a conviction that much more dificult.

I feel for the young child that witnessed such violence against her mother. I really hope she is given all the supprot needed.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/13/2188320.htm?site=canberra

Self-defence in a fight?

ACT courts.

Her defence counsel must be confident of an acquittal.

Roadrage77 said :

“An autopsy revealed she had seven knife wounds on her torso, legs and forearm, and that the fatal blow had been a 4mm stab wound to her left breast which punctured the heart and lung.”

4mm?! I’ve had paper cuts deeper than that.

That’s gotta be a typo, you’d think. Maybe it was 40mm.

“An autopsy revealed she had seven knife wounds on her torso, legs and forearm, and that the fatal blow had been a 4mm stab wound to her left breast which punctured the heart and lung.”

4mm?! I’ve had paper cuts deeper than that.

Deadmandrinking9:35 am 29 Jul 08

But I will make one point, I would really like to know the statistics on people who have cleaned their lives up after going through the court system…I mean, a lot of people go through it, how many are repeats?

If there’s more who never experience the justice system again after getting a second chance, then…

Deadmandrinking9:26 am 29 Jul 08

The judge said there had been two Rebecca Massey’s in her court.

Read it properly DMD.

It’s too early in the morning Thumper.

Deadmandrinking9:18 am 29 Jul 08

vg said :

This from Googling ‘massey prison canberra’

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/thief-saw-drugs-in-touretski-safe/208414.aspx

We all know who the Massey’s are, VG.

TAD, it’s really sad to hear she has kids…if it is her, of course. The judge said there had been two Rebecca Massey’s in her court.

yea, is the massey woman in any way related to I think it’s gavin massey.. the dude who escaped from the remand centre ?

Until the courts are blessed with your ability to infalliby see into the future, I’m afraid they’re going to have to continue to sentence people for what they have done, not what they will do.

Deadmandrinking7:25 am 29 Jul 08

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Yep, a big thanks goes out to the courts who saw fit to leave this freak in the community, instead of locking her away in gaol where she clearly belongs.

Funny though, there’s no information as to what ‘knife crimes’ she was convicted of and whether she has served a sentence for them. She’s 35, more than enough time between that year and 18 to do some time…

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy9:25 pm 28 Jul 08

Yep, a big thanks goes out to the courts who saw fit to leave this freak in the community, instead of locking her away in gaol where she clearly belongs.

Edwards is the maiden name. She went by Massey when married to one for a while but then went back to her maiden name. This was the name she was charged under.

ABC can’t decide which to use as most still refer to her by the married name.

This is all sounding a bit strange now.

Win News is reporting that she (the offender) has 6 prior convictions for assault.
The murder weapon has not been found.
25 witness statements yet to be submitted.

She’ll get off again at this rate. Some smart lawyer will use some technicalities (Lack of evidence, doubt over credibility of witnesses) to convince a stupid judge (probably the same one who didn’t make sure she was locked away for her 6 priors) why she should be let off with community service and a GBB. Damn.

I think it would be great if we could do something to help the family.

Like maybe restaurant owners could send in some vouchers for meals, or other businesses could do lawnmowing or counseling or a holiday that they could take when they feel up to it or people could donate money towards the funeral costs.

@ Crikey,

Absent minded comments.

A daughters mother died.

This is not the time to state the obvious about magistrates sentences.

Grow up, and give constructive comments.

This is not personal, but really. THIS IS REAL.

Comments like yours do nothing to add to the debate.

Sorry, just read the update. there was an earlier version surname Edwards.

Is the woman under arrest – surname Edwards – the same I think Melissa Edwards woman who was doing holdups and talking in fake foreign accents a few years ago?

Crikey said :

Bogan’s live in the govie flats around Kingston and Griffith. They should all be moved out to Charnwood so we have one bogan suburb.

hey, lets get charnwood back and move all the bogans into manuka and kingston. over the “good” side of the lake.

Bogan’s live in the govie flats around Kingston and Griffith. They should all be moved out to Charnwood so we have one bogan suburb.

Roadrage77 said :

Having lived & gone to school there in the 80’s, I can say that all this talk about Charnwood being akin to South Central L.A is absolute crap and a feeble attempt to win street cred at that. Anyone who thinks anywhere in the ACT is hard needs to spend a day in Jo’burg.

right. been there. seen the conditions.

seen a girl killed after getting off the bus in fraser / charnwood and walking around the front, only to be knocked down and dragged by a speeding motorist.

I have seen 3 mates at different times top themselves because they couldn’t afford rent, food and clothing for their kids, or basic essentials, in various ways. I have seen a lot of stuff in my youth. Street cred? don’t want it.

I have been to Joburg, and seen the conditions there as well.

probably where I got my liking for biltong.

I post the stuff i have seen for information, I am a fat late 30’s guy who wouldn’t be classed in any stretch of the imagination as “cool”.

BUT – Charnwood wasn’t a great place to grow up, if you were on the outer. If we had had a “most likely to get a weapon and blow everyone away” at our formal, I wasn’t even an option.

at the 10-year reunion, many didn’t bother to turn up, were dead or in jail. those of us that did were older, and had a hunted look as if we had been ordered to attend for community service.

AngryHenry said :

vg said :

Ian said :

I might say thats only to be expected out in Boganville.

Domestic, I’d guess, rather than random attack?

Can remember 2 homicides in Kingston and suspicious deaths in Griffith in reccent memory. Don’t think anywhere in Canberra is immune from boganity

GUYS!?!?!? Since when is being a bogan equate to being a murderer???

I’m a proud Bogan and I haven’t killed anyone.

yet.

doesn’t get the notoriously draconian Justice Higgins or she could get a very stern warning OR even a weekend’s community service

pool room!

Canberra Gardener4:47 pm 28 Jul 08

Irrespective of the circumstances…….my heart goes out to the 7 yr old girl left motherless.

I would never want that for my children. Never.

AngryHenry said :

Ian said :

You’re all sitting here going ‘oh tut tut’, ‘bloody bogans’ ‘wouldn’t happen in my suburb’…

I am not.

I hope for the sake of the accused she doesn’t get the notoriously draconian Justice Higgins or she could get a very stern warning OR even a weekend’s community service if she gets him on a bad day.

Ian said :

I might say thats only to be expected out in Boganville.

Domestic, I’d guess, rather than random attack?

F**K you man! How’s that for bogan???

Looking at the comments here that have been cast from very high perches by the tone of things, I’d like to remind you that SOMEONE IS DEAD!!!

You’re all sitting here going ‘oh tut tut’, ‘bloody bogans’ ‘wouldn’t happen in my suburb’… Well it happened in your city, isn’t that enough???

So pull your heads out of your a*ses, realise that we all need to look out for each other and have some repect for your fellow man/woman regardless of wether they’re bogan, upperclass, asian, rich, poor, aborignal, whatever.

Canberra isn’t that huge that we can segregate the rich from the poor, NOTHING IS OUT OF SIGHT AND IT’s CERTAINLY NOT OUT OF MIND! You’re no safer from this kind of stuff wether you’re in Manuka, Charnwood, Isaacs or Kambah, every suburb has issues.

And to those d*ckheads from stormfront, go and inbreed yourseleves out of existence.

Having lived & gone to school there in the 80’s, I can say that all this talk about Charnwood being akin to South Central L.A is absolute crap and a feeble attempt to win street cred at that. Anyone who thinks anywhere in the ACT is hard needs to spend a day in Jo’burg.

So this woman with a history of knife crime takes a life and leaves a kiddie traumatised for life. I’ve said in another post that whichever party delivers on tougher sentencing will get my vote later this year and this just reinforces my feelings.

vg said :

Ian said :

I might say thats only to be expected out in Boganville.

Domestic, I’d guess, rather than random attack?

Can remember 2 homicides in Kingston and suspicious deaths in Griffith in reccent memory. Don’t think anywhere in Canberra is immune from boganity

GUYS!?!?!? Since when is being a bogan equate to being a murderer???

I’m a proud Bogan and I haven’t killed anyone.

Crikey said :

Lucky it happened in the ACT as she’ll get a slap over the wrists and told not to do it again.

The Magistrate will make this sentence because she has had a unfortunate upbringing and wet her bed when she was a child.

or not. the magistrate hopefully will make it far more severe, after all, there was a little kid who saw it happen.

Lucky it happened in the ACT as she’ll get a slap over the wrists and told not to do it again.

The Magistrate will make this sentence because she has had a unfortunate upbringing and wet her bed when she was a child.

Granny said :

This is my attempt at the Stormfront translation.

The two Nazi dudes live in Canberra because they think it is the ‘whitest’ mainland major town. It is therefore, presumably, the safest…

… except that *shock, horror, gasp* ‘they’ are now sending pockets of ‘Negroes’ to live in the area which includes Charnwood, because it’s the housing commission place, and especially Kippax.

As every informed rascist-scum knows: “A black man is FAR more likely to be violent, racist, molest children, rape, commit sex offences, murder, maim, harm animals per capita.”

Who could be surprised, they reason, that a woman was stabbed? It even happened once, yes once, before! Two or three years ago.

Because Mt Isa happily encourage their Aboriginal citizens to gang bash old grannies, your average self-respecting Canberra-based fascist needs to be aware of all kinds of combat, er, self-defence, both armed and unarmed.

There are a few random strings of text that would pass for helpful links on the subject were the author not somewhat psychologically challenged and mentally disoriented in time and space.

Something unspecified about wasting taxpayers’ money.

My favourite is the extraordinary oxymoron and illogic where they solemnly declare: “White criminals will be executed by white nationalist government. I condemn violence.”

The really scary thing is that they might be standing behind me in the supermarket. *shudder*

a housing commission place??
NOW??

not many govvie homes there now.

maybe back in the eighties.

good to see the nazis getting it wrong again.

maybe they should spend more time in the sun?

look, charnwood wasn’t really rough in the 80’s, at least,not to those who lived there. occasionally, you had a couple of incidents, but they weren’t as bad as most make out.

There was a gang in operation then, called the charny boys. they were tough, but at least they made sure that the younger boys kept their noses clean. we were in awe and fear of them. I didn’t want to fall under their radar, I tried my best to keep clean. it was only after going to a couple of races on parkwood road, that I truly realised the culture that existed.

I remember that the road was blocked by cars at both ends, and these guys ran the race like professionals. if we ever have a dragway, they will probably be in line to go there.

the domestics, the arguments, the snow dropping and the chases over back fences were exciting, but not very frequent.

I remember a guy letting of a shotgun one cracker night after midnight to let everyone know that he wanted to sleep… the crackers stopped pretty quickly.

there were guys who had guns, there were kids who mugged others for their money, there were fights between streets of kids, but there wasn’t anything like today.

I never saw a guy hit a girl, or someone in trouble ignored. If you were in trouble, being beaten up, there was always someone that would step in. and most of the fighters came from fraser.

to stab someone at the shops was unheard of. we all met there at the charcoal chicken and would catch up on the gossip, who had moved away, which college we were all going to, etc. chips at lunch from there when we were at charnwood high… if you were quick and didn’t get caught. (no-one dobbed you in, cause everyone was doing it…

I only moved away after I was at college, it was too far in my parent’s eyes for me to ride or walk home. they wanted a change, we moved to evatt.

Well the local press has been reporting this one as flat as possible.

That to me speaks volumes.

I was devastated to read this in the CT today.

This is my attempt at the Stormfront translation.

The two Nazi dudes live in Canberra because they think it is the ‘whitest’ mainland major town. It is therefore, presumably, the safest…

… except that *shock, horror, gasp* ‘they’ are now sending pockets of ‘Negroes’ to live in the area which includes Charnwood, because it’s the housing commission place, and especially Kippax.

As every informed rascist-scum knows: “A black man is FAR more likely to be violent, racist, molest children, rape, commit sex offences, murder, maim, harm animals per capita.”

Who could be surprised, they reason, that a woman was stabbed? It even happened once, yes once, before! Two or three years ago.

Because Mt Isa happily encourage their Aboriginal citizens to gang bash old grannies, your average self-respecting Canberra-based fascist needs to be aware of all kinds of combat, er, self-defence, both armed and unarmed.

There are a few random strings of text that would pass for helpful links on the subject were the author not somewhat psychologically challenged and mentally disoriented in time and space.

Something unspecified about wasting taxpayers’ money.

My favourite is the extraordinary oxymoron and illogic where they solemnly declare: “White criminals will be executed by white nationalist government. I condemn violence.”

The really scary thing is that they might be standing behind me in the supermarket. *shudder*

What sort of person goes shopping with a knife?

Someone who’s lost their gun?

*boom boom*

Deadmandrinking10:48 am 27 Jul 08

What sort of person goes shopping with a knife?

Someone who needed to buy a new kitchen knife.

After reading the article in the crimes I’m thinking self defence. It worked for Rao.

My family moved into Flynn before Charnwood shops were even built and they’re still my folks local shops. The place has definitely got worse over the years. I remember shots being fired in the car park a few years back, one of the Chinese restaraunts being burgled and having shots fired through the back door, the supermarkets armed security guard being beaten up by a gang of 14-15 year olds, etc.

There’s also quite a few ferals who frequent the Charnwood Tavern then go and sit around the shops pissed. If I lived around the area now I wouldn’t want my kids going anywhere near the place

teepee said :

I came to Canberra in the 1990s, so what do we mean by the 80s Charney? This could be interesting … colour please …

colour?
not back then. you had to be there to know what went on there.

(most of us moved away….)

Deadmandrinking11:17 pm 26 Jul 08

Canberra has public housing in almost every suburb, so the rough element is spread out.

and yes, my spelling and grammar in the above was appalling

Ian said :

I might say thats only to be expected out in Boganville.

Domestic, I’d guess, rather than random attack?

Can remember 2 homicides in Kingston and suspicious deaths in Griffith in reccent memory. Don’t think anywhere in Canberra is immune from boganity

That’s in pretty poor taste.

I’d like to think murders are still rare enough in Canberra that we haven’t become that desensitised yet.

From my crack dealer sources, the two women were fighting over which one would get to sleep with Todd Carney.
Todd said that whichever slapper could acquire the most greasiest of charcoal chickens would have the honour of riding the Carney-val *ba dom tish*.

This led ‘G-string 5 inches above tracky-pants with Tramp stamp of XXXX beer’ woman to wield her knifey and when ‘White Pants Muffin Top’ woman tried to slap her, her Muffin Top got in the way of Tramp-stamp’s knifey.

I’m right and you know it.

I came to Canberra in the 1990s, so what do we mean by the 80s Charney? This could be interesting … colour please …

Charnie is slowly becoming gentrified so that is why we haven’t heard about so much of this recently. Not that the extreme poverty problems are solved, oh no, simply moved along. . .

Deadmandrinking6:54 pm 26 Jul 08

Ian said :

I might say thats only to be expected out in Boganville.

Domestic, I’d guess, rather than random attack?

The funny thing is, though, I haven’t remembered this happening in Charnwood for a long time…

ABC is now reporting a woman is being questioned. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/26/2315356.htm

That is very worrying – my tween has friends in Charnwood and is often in the area around that time. Not on the night of the 25th of July, though (she hastens to add).

A brief mention in the Canberra Times says Police are ‘seeking a female offender’.

Well that’s something we look forward to finding out.

I might say thats only to be expected out in Boganville.

Domestic, I’d guess, rather than random attack?

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