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New Developments in Solar Technology

By SEEChangeIncCanberra - 2 April 2012 24

Arguments about the feasibility of renewable energy often concentrate around costings and capabilities that are out of date.  But what exactly is happening in solar technology?  Speculate no longer!  Come along to the Bob Douglas Lecture Theatre, Eggleston Road, ANU Campus tomorrow night at 6 pm to find out for yourself what the latest from the solar industry can deliver.

Run as part of the ongoing SEE-Change Solar Seminar Series and the Canberra Environment and Sustainability Resource Centre’s SUSTAIN Ability Workshop Series 2012, Guest Speaker Steve Blume – President of the Australian Solar Energy Society (AuSES) and Vice President Public Affairs for the International Solar Energy Society (ISES) – will share his knowledge and insights in this short talk.  Steve’s specialities include climate change and environment policy development & implementation, as well as solar and other renewable energy technologies.

Please register here through eventbrite if you wish to attend (but please note there is no need to print your ticket).  For more information contact admin@see-change.org.au.

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New Developments in Solar Technology
GardeningGirl 12:09 pm 04 Apr 12

I’m sorry but solar energy turned into another industry to steer clear of, with government schemes and jumping on the bandwagon shoddy installers and cheap Chinese panels and major pollution problems in the vicinity of the factories. I’m not saying all factories or panels or installers are crap but we decided to wait until the industry becomes clearly more environmentally friendly and sustainable instead of flavour of the month trendy pale green before we look into it again. It’s a shame the government didn’t invest in growing local solar technology expertise instead of simply throwing money at any householder who wanted to cut their power bills. Perhaps it’s just a coincidence around here but the houses with the panels are NOT the ones with northern orientation and reduced lawns and water tanks and sensible cars and so on, in fact one of them was notorious for ignoring the water restrictions during the drought so when I saw the panels go on I just had to laugh at their sudden interest in being environmentally responsible. I hope things improve in the future, I believe in the ‘idea’ of solar energy.

HenryBG 11:00 am 04 Apr 12

welkin31 said :

Of course – I should have thought of that.
Solar bankruptcies mark industry coming of age
http://www.climatespectator.com.au/news/solar-bankruptcies-mark-industry-coming-age
Oh – thats good then – it’s all normal.

It means that, unlike the Nuclear industry, solar power companies are operating in the free market.
And as solar power is now cost-equivalent to burning coal (already way cheaper than burning gas), there is no reason to oppose it.

Wind power, of course, is already way cheaper than burning coal. It just doesn’t have the history of subsidies that coal power does, so it’s ramping up much more slowly here than in China where they are happy to pounce on a bargain without being retarded by anti-renewable cranks like we are here.

welkin31 10:31 am 04 Apr 12

In addition to Solar Trust of America and German solar firm Q-Cells mentioned comment #10 – some more examples – of solar bankruptcies – Solyndra – Solar Millennium – Stirling Energy Systems – SpectraWatt – Evergreen. Keeps the lawyers in new Mercs I suppose – but producing usable electricity at home power points – not so easy is it.

Solar panel scammers set up new company, Premium Solar Systems
http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/solar-panel-scammers-set-up-new-company-premium-solar-systems/story-e6freoof-1226070491741

Solar Millennium Files For Bankruptcy As Solar Shakeout Continues
http://www.forbes.com/sites/toddwoody/2011/12/21/solar-millennium-files-for-bankruptcy-as-solar-shakeout-continues/
The above article has links to – Stirling Energy Systems went belly up in September along with SpectraWatt and Evergreen. This week, BP pulled the plug on its four-decade-old solar division.

Solyndra, solar company that Obama visited, to shut down
http://www.climatespectator.com.au/news/solyndra-solar-company-obama-visited-shut-down
Phew – the list goes on.

Of course – I should have thought of that.
Solar bankruptcies mark industry coming of age
http://www.climatespectator.com.au/news/solar-bankruptcies-mark-industry-coming-age
Oh – thats good then – it’s all normal.

HenryBG 10:03 am 04 Apr 12

chewy14 said :

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

Isn’t 6.00pm a little late to be demonstating a solar energy concept?

You’re thinking Local again.

Here’s a clue: the sun shines 24 hours a day, without fail.

The Chinese government has announced plans to expand the installed capacity of solar capacity to 20 GW by 2020, and windpower capacity to 100GW by 2020.
(And considering they beat their target of 10GW windpower by 2010 by almost 300%, their targets are not just credible, but probably an understatement).

Here in the “clever country”? Ignorant pooh-poohers still clog up the debate with their nonsense, and we barely manage to produce 5% of our power consumption from renewable sources (and less than 2% of our production is from renewables). Some people need to wake up and realise the 1950s are over.
Like that Gina Reinhardt who I had the displeasure of watching on Australian Story again last night.

And their coal capacity is what 550-600GW? How much growth expected in this area?
And what’s their expected growth in Nuclear Power generation?

I think I’ve previously taken you to task on account of presenting logic-free argument in other threads.

Care to explain the logic present in your argument, if you have any/one.

I do wish those with no understanding of logical argumentation would stick to sharing their observations (something we are all qualified for) rather than participating in intellectual exercises for which they are not equipped.

HenryBG 10:01 am 04 Apr 12

welkin31 said :

Solar bankruptcies in recent news.

German solar firm in trouble
Solar panel maker Q-Cells to file for bankruptcy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17587830

Developer of California desert solar plant files for bankruptcy
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-solar-bankruptcy-20120403,0,7195246.story

If you want a list of all the bankruptcies in Europe and the USA over the last 5 years, you just might find there is nothing unusual in seeing these manufacturers included. Hint: there’s this GFC thing been going on, don’t know if you’ve heard.

Meanwhile (from Wikipedia):
“China produces 30% of the worlds solar photovoltaics (PV).[19] It has emerged as the world’s largest manufacturer of solar panels in the last two years.[20] Major Chinese solar PV modules manufacturers include: Suntech Power Holdings, Trina Solar, Yingli Solar, Canadian Solar, Solarfun, Upsolar. Thin-film PV producers include ENN Solar and Astronergy Solar. While poly-silicon and wafers producers are LDK and ReneSola.
China has become a world leader in the manufacture of solar photovoltaic technology, with its six biggest solar companies having a combined value of over $15 billion. Around 820 MW of solar PV were produced in China in 2007, second only to Japan.”

So, while China leads the world in manufacturing and installing renewable technologies, the cranky pensioner nay-sayers in Australia continue to retard us in this area.

Why anybody even listens to these ignorant anti-renewable cranks is a complete mystery.

welkin31 8:54 am 04 Apr 12

Solar bankruptcies in recent news.

German solar firm in trouble
Solar panel maker Q-Cells to file for bankruptcy
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17587830

Developer of California desert solar plant files for bankruptcy
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-solar-bankruptcy-20120403,0,7195246.story

chewy14 10:51 am 03 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

Isn’t 6.00pm a little late to be demonstating a solar energy concept?

You’re thinking Local again.

Here’s a clue: the sun shines 24 hours a day, without fail.

The Chinese government has announced plans to expand the installed capacity of solar capacity to 20 GW by 2020, and windpower capacity to 100GW by 2020.
(And considering they beat their target of 10GW windpower by 2010 by almost 300%, their targets are not just credible, but probably an understatement).

Here in the “clever country”? Ignorant pooh-poohers still clog up the debate with their nonsense, and we barely manage to produce 5% of our power consumption from renewable sources (and less than 2% of our production is from renewables). Some people need to wake up and realise the 1950s are over.
Like that Gina Reinhardt who I had the displeasure of watching on Australian Story again last night.

And their coal capacity is what 550-600GW? How much growth expected in this area?
And what’s their expected growth in Nuclear Power generation?

HenryBG 10:34 am 03 Apr 12

dungfungus said :

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

Isn’t 6.00pm a little late to be demonstating a solar energy concept?

“Some people need to wake up and realise the 1950s are over.
Like that Gina Reinhardt who I had the displeasure of watching on Australian Story again last night”

Since the 1950s, TVs have a “change channel/on/off switch” fitted. Why I am not surprised you haven’t found that out yet?

What? Take your eye off the enemy?

I don’t think so.

dungfungus 9:48 am 03 Apr 12

HenryBG said :

dungfungus said :

Isn’t 6.00pm a little late to be demonstating a solar energy concept?

“Some people need to wake up and realise the 1950s are over.
Like that Gina Reinhardt who I had the displeasure of watching on Australian Story again last night”

Since the 1950s, TVs have a “change channel/on/off switch” fitted. Why I am not surprised you haven’t found that out yet?

HenryBG 9:29 am 03 Apr 12

dungfungus said :

Isn’t 6.00pm a little late to be demonstating a solar energy concept?

You’re thinking Local again.

Here’s a clue: the sun shines 24 hours a day, without fail.

The Chinese government has announced plans to expand the installed capacity of solar capacity to 20 GW by 2020, and windpower capacity to 100GW by 2020.
(And considering they beat their target of 10GW windpower by 2010 by almost 300%, their targets are not just credible, but probably an understatement).

Here in the “clever country”? Ignorant pooh-poohers still clog up the debate with their nonsense, and we barely manage to produce 5% of our power consumption from renewable sources (and less than 2% of our production is from renewables). Some people need to wake up and realise the 1950s are over.
Like that Gina Reinhardt who I had the displeasure of watching on Australian Story again last night.

dungfungus 7:25 am 03 Apr 12

SEEChangeIncCanberra said :

Oops I just remembered where I am. Rioters? The bicycle-powered heat lamps comment was a joke; just though I should make this clear in case I inadvertently started a ‘how rude are canberra Cyclists thread’.

Yes, don’t upset the Petal Power People. Actually, if they were at your nightime forum there would be lots of potential sunshine eminating from the collective fundamental orifices on the bicycle seats.

SEEChangeIncCanberra 6:38 am 03 Apr 12

Oops I just remembered where I am. Rioters? The bicycle-powered heat lamps comment was a joke; just though I should make this clear in case I inadvertently started a ‘how rude are canberra Cyclists thread’.

SEEChangeIncCanberra 6:35 am 03 Apr 12

Good point Dungfungus! This time you’ll have to content yourself with pictures. Next time we do an evening of solar, we’ll organise bicycle-powered heat lamps to train onto the panels.

dungfungus 5:17 pm 02 Apr 12

Isn’t 6.00pm a little late to be demonstating a solar energy concept?

SEEChangeIncCanberra 4:50 pm 02 Apr 12

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