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Pedal Power ACT calls for $50m over four years for cycling. Election Forum and list of grievances.

By PedalPower 20 August 2012 144

Pedal Power ACT is calling on the next ACT Government to increase spending on cycling to $50 million over four years.

Canberra’s facilities are great for dedicated, confident riders but they don’t encourage enough new riders and there are too many unfinished projects. Cycling increased by 70% between 2004 and 2010 but has not grown since.

ACT Government currently spends 2% or less of the transport budget on cycling, which is not in line with its stated goal of having 6% of all work trips made on bike by 2016. The last cycle to work count in 2006 showed trips by bike were only at 2.5%. http://www.transport.act.gov.au/policy.html

Pedal Power ACT believes that consistent with Canberra’s goals, around 6% of the transport budget, or $50 million, should be invested in cycling over the next four years. This would clear backlog projects and build the next-generation infrastructure needed to encourage more people to ride. http://www.pedalpower.org.au/

Pedal Power ACT is holding an Election Forum on 19 September to hear from the ACT Greens, ACT Labor and Canberra Liberals about how they will support cycling. Attendance is free and all are welcome.


We need a safe crossing over Bowen Drive.

bowen drive


Melrose Drive Underpass – barriers have since been removed to assist cycling.

underpass


Lake Burley Griffin offroad path ends in Kingston Foreshore, sending riders onto roads, footpaths and terminating bike lanes.

bike lane


Cyclists must turn left on Yamba Drive Mawson.

yamba drive


Bike Lane ends on Ginninderra Drive at GDE Intersection.

ginninderra drive


Bike lane ends on Brisbane Ave, Barton.

brisbane ave


Bike lane ends on Barton Hwy near Federation Square.

barton highway

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pink little birdie 7:34 pm 03 Sep 12

repainting lines in suburban oval carparks. If you are a little car parked between two larger cars directly in front of the only sloping gutter bit where there is a big X on the area people are going to get annoyed and maybe slam into your car -_-

I may start producing the you parked like an arsehole cards for this carpark.

KB1971 12:20 pm 27 Aug 12

Holden Caulfield said :

Bump.

C’mon peeps, are you just going to stand by and let those rascals in Chisholm walk away with the Mully Cup!

Hey, I think they deserve it on original content alone.

Holden Caulfield 11:57 am 27 Aug 12

Bump.

C’mon peeps, are you just going to stand by and let those rascals in Chisholm walk away with the Mully Cup!

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 5:53 pm 23 Aug 12

gazket said :

I seen a sick bastard cyclist walking around the mall in lycra shorts and his gonads bulging out for all to see. I think he should of been arrested for indecent exposure.

Unless you are in a race or a really hot chick lycra cycle clothes should be banned from being worn in general public.

Sounds sexy

gazket 4:46 pm 23 Aug 12

I seen a sick bastard cyclist walking around the mall in lycra shorts and his gonads bulging out for all to see. I think he should of been arrested for indecent exposure.

Unless you are in a race or a really hot chick lycra cycle clothes should be banned from being worn in general public.

Jim Jones 2:38 pm 23 Aug 12

Mysteryman said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Mysteryman said :

You seem pretty keen to point out how fit and healthy cyclists are. So how do you explain all the fat arse cyclists that are all over Canberra roads every morning? There are a hell of a lot of them who have been riding for a long time and are still total lard arses.

There are some overweight people at the gym I go to….

I’m sure there are. But you don’t you go posting on forums about how everyone who doesn’t go to the gym is a fat-arse retard, do you?

What the f(_)ck could your point possibly be?

Have you really devolved to the level where you’re arguing with mods solely because … I dunno … you’re a bloody-minded fat-arsed retard?

johnboy 1:10 pm 23 Aug 12

Mysteryman said :

I’m sure there are. But you don’t you go posting on forums about how everyone who doesn’t go to the gym, and bellyaches about people who do, is a fat-arse retard, do you?

Fixed it for you.

Mysteryman 1:07 pm 23 Aug 12

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Mysteryman said :

You seem pretty keen to point out how fit and healthy cyclists are. So how do you explain all the fat arse cyclists that are all over Canberra roads every morning? There are a hell of a lot of them who have been riding for a long time and are still total lard arses.

There are some overweight people at the gym I go to….

I’m sure there are. But you don’t you go posting on forums about how everyone who doesn’t go to the gym is a fat-arse retard, do you?

Holden Caulfield 12:05 pm 23 Aug 12

KBase said :

As a pedestrian, motorist and “rock-thrown-at” cyclist, I’ve found most of the aggression between the three parties comes from unpredictable and inconsistent behaviour. I have to admit, that the cyclist, being faster than a pedestrian and often very inconsistent in behaviour, is going to p*** every one else off in some way. And when grouped into a metro area (we have nothing on the dangers of Sydney/Melbourne) then the 3 parties can’t co-exist without hostility and danger.

Society may be learning slowly how to give each of the three parties a fair go, but democracy and fairness doesn’t mean, “great, I can do it my way”. I get very frustrated watching cyclists run red lights for example, quite a few while turning. I either makes motorists angry (not me), or freak out that they now have to avoid them (me). Most motorists “do it their way” when given the chance too, and pedestrians are happy to scuttle across the most ridiculous roads, with me thinking “Uh, I hope you don’t trip because I’m going 60 right now, guess I better slow down..”

My point is, sadly, that people are just jerks and we don’t like thinking about the other persons point of view. I try to do this however, with mixed success. As a cyclist, I’ve tried giving pedestrians a wide berth at a slow speed: pedestrian gets surprised and shakes fist while muttering something. I’ve tried the bell: but that seems to be equal to a car horn from 20 meters back (an insult which might get a rock thrown at you). I’ve settled on “Good [TIME OF DAY]”: but the people with earphones on still get twitchy. I dismount well before a pedestrian crossing as to not “surprise” the motorist, and it is a fair call as we don’t want the motorist to think “Can I go or not? Oh great he slowed down, what a jerk”.

From my point of view, we need more consistent behaviour (I don’t know what it should be but try not to break too many rules), to stop grouping everyone into the same bucket of hate (FU**IN [INSERT TRANSIT METHOD]), and to think about what the other party is experiencing from your actions…

Rational, well-considered and not too full of yourself to think you’re perfect. Yet aware enough to be considerate and willing to compromise for the benefit of other road users.

You, sir, deserve a gold star.

thumper109 said :

Jim Jones said :

thumper109 said :

Out of my way, I’m a motorist.

That’s right, out of my way, I’m a motorist

thumper109 1:33 pm 22 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

thumper109 said :

Out of my way, I’m a motorist.

So?

thumper109 1:32 pm 22 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

thumper109 said :

Out of my way, I’m a motorist.

And?

fromthecapital 12:27 pm 22 Aug 12

thumper109 said :

I really don’t mind $50,000,000 of my taxes being spent on bicycle infrastructural.. Especially if it removes the bicycles from the roads.

Introducing new legislation stating only vehicles that can sustain posted speed limit are permitted on roads would be even better solution, and worth the $50,000,000.

Wow you must pay a lot of tax…

Jim Jones 12:05 pm 22 Aug 12

thumper109 said :

Out of my way, I’m a motorist.

thumper109 11:57 am 22 Aug 12

I really don’t mind $50,000,000 of my taxes being spent on bicycle infrastructural.. Especially if it removes the bicycles from the roads.

Introducing new legislation stating only vehicles that can sustain posted speed limit are permitted on roads would be even better solution, and worth the $50,000,000.

KBase 10:33 am 22 Aug 12

As a pedestrian, motorist and “rock-thrown-at” cyclist, I’ve found most of the aggression between the three parties comes from unpredictable and inconsistent behaviour. I have to admit, that the cyclist, being faster than a pedestrian and often very inconsistent in behaviour, is going to p*** every one else off in some way. And when grouped into a metro area (we have nothing on the dangers of Sydney/Melbourne) then the 3 parties can’t co-exist without hostility and danger.

Society may be learning slowly how to give each of the three parties a fair go, but democracy and fairness doesn’t mean, “great, I can do it my way”. I get very frustrated watching cyclists run red lights for example, quite a few while turning. I either makes motorists angry (not me), or freak out that they now have to avoid them (me). Most motorists “do it their way” when given the chance too, and pedestrians are happy to scuttle across the most ridiculous roads, with me thinking “Uh, I hope you don’t trip because I’m going 60 right now, guess I better slow down..”

My point is, sadly, that people are just jerks and we don’t like thinking about the other persons point of view. I try to do this however, with mixed success. As a cyclist, I’ve tried giving pedestrians a wide berth at a slow speed: pedestrian gets surprised and shakes fist while muttering something. I’ve tried the bell: but that seems to be equal to a car horn from 20 meters back (an insult which might get a rock thrown at you). I’ve settled on “Good [TIME OF DAY]”: but the people with earphones on still get twitchy. I dismount well before a pedestrian crossing as to not “surprise” the motorist, and it is a fair call as we don’t want the motorist to think “Can I go or not? Oh great he slowed down, what a jerk”.

From my point of view, we need more consistent behaviour (I don’t know what it should be but try not to break too many rules), to stop grouping everyone into the same bucket of hate (FU**IN [INSERT TRANSIT METHOD]), and to think about what the other party is experiencing from your actions.

Regarding $50 mil, well that’s tops, but I always want to know: is it cheaper to spend the money on repairing and making more of the off-road lanes, versus the heavily engineered and expensive on-road ones?

I only ask as, even though the Lycra Brigade do like to get to work faster than cars, most cyclists don’t feel safe riding next to the road. I’d like the best bang for my taxpayer buck, and whichever system ends up with more and safer passage for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians. I personally don’t like the heavy focus on the on-road lanes, I feel like I’m dicing with death when I use them and they seem very expensive to construct. Whereas the off-road lanes take longer, but you don’t get the smell of buses, the noise of cars and the fear of instant death. The worst example is when road lanes are removed to and a cycle lane, I think at that point we have gone way too far.

Holden Caulfield 10:32 am 22 Aug 12

Holden Caulfield said :

Mully Cup here we come!

Was there ever any doubt? 😛

davo101 9:53 am 22 Aug 12

thatsnotme said :

the many thousands of drivers I’ve been around in that time have been courteous, have respected my right to be on the road – hopefully in some part because I try my hardest to give cars as much room as I’d like them to give me when there’s no dedicated lanes – and have simply let me go on my way. Past RA threads kinda built me up to expect a war zone out there. Reality has been pleasantly different.

+1

That’s one of the good things about cycling in Canberra. As we have so many more bicycles on the road than other cities Canberra motorist have encountered cyclist before and know what to do. In places such as Sydney they’ve never seen one before and tend to go into fits trying to figure out what to do.

helium 11:45 pm 21 Aug 12

PP (or Greens) will never get decent amounts spent on cycling (+pedestrian) infrastructure, that is not the ACT Government way.

They will do cheap, poorly maintained, incoherently design, inconvienient and bodgy cycling solutions forever more… that is despite a budget to run the ACT of over 4 Beeelion dollars.

And expensive, over budget road projects that take 10 times longer than you would think possible, lets see how the (long overdue) Majura Parkway goes (currently $288 million budget)

Snarky 11:01 pm 21 Aug 12

thatsnotme said :

Thank god the attitudes towards cycling on RA don’t actually reflect what happens out on the road – at least in my experience….

Tl:DR version – the real war is here, between keyboard warriors. Ride courteously, ignore these posts, and enjoy the crisp winter mornings while they last.

Very well said thatsnotme, my experience is the same. Been riding to work Weston Creek – Fyshwick at least twice a week for nearly 10 years now, and in that time I’ve had perhaps 3 dimwit tradies yell and carry on. Here on RA there’ve been innumerable frothings at the mouth that makes it sound like, as you said, a “war zone” out there. It ain’t, and all the piss-and-wind on RA is utterly ineffectual and irrelevant. See the following case in point for an example of typical vacuity:

dungfungus said :

A lot of us are unable to use bicycles for various reasons and we have a right to equity when this amount of money is earmarked only for bike enthusiasts.

Dungfungus it must really tick you off to see the government building womens toilets too, eh? (I’m assuming you’re male – your previous childish blatherings seem to indicate it) – you can’t use those either. But it’s okay because bike-impaired citizens like you get gobs of lovely government equity money in the form of BUSES. I’m quite sure you don’t pay anywhere near full cost for the use of those. Feel better now?

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