4 August 2011

PLA Barracks down by the Lake?

4 August 2011 | Kim F

Does anyone know the story behind what the Chinese Embassy has built on the land between their embassy and the Canberra Yacht Club?

There is a high colourbond fence surrounding what is quite a large block of land.

There are a couple of 2 story barrack type buildings that are especially ugly.

Just a beautiful location that I didn’t even know the Chinese Government owned!

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p111:44 am 30 Nov 11

Seems the unions are not really that familiar with the way embassies do things.

p13:42 pm 29 Nov 11

Mysteryman said :

p1 said :

Mysteryman said :

Protesting in Canberra about what the Chinese do in China (regardless of how abhorrent and offensive it is – and it certainly is, make no mistake) is going to make as much difference as protesting in Beijing about what the Legislative Assembly do in Canberra. THAT was the point.

Actually, I think maybe this protest, at the seat of the Australian Government, it supposed to influence the way Australia deals with China, and through that influence the way the Chinese deal with people in this group. If they can successfully do this with all of China’s larger trading partners it might actually actually force change. On the other hand, it might not.

Personally I have found in my reading that the Chinese government has treated these guys pretty horrendously.

On the other hand, these guys seem a little on the cultish edge of the religion spectrum to me. Not exactly showing the love by actively trying to convert people to their movement in a country where that will get your organs harvested.

Sure. I understand the logic behind it. And while I commend their persistence and commitment, ultimately I don’t think having a group of 12 or so protesters permanently outside the Chinese embassy is going to make a lot of difference to the way our government deals with one of our largest trade partners. And on the very remote chance that it encouraged our government to address the issues with China, history suggests that they probably wouldn’t care at all about what we said.

I didn’t say it would work. In fact, I suspect if they just shut up the Chinese government might stop killing them so much. But who knows.

Mysteryman2:39 pm 29 Nov 11

p1 said :

Mysteryman said :

Protesting in Canberra about what the Chinese do in China (regardless of how abhorrent and offensive it is – and it certainly is, make no mistake) is going to make as much difference as protesting in Beijing about what the Legislative Assembly do in Canberra. THAT was the point.

Actually, I think maybe this protest, at the seat of the Australian Government, it supposed to influence the way Australia deals with China, and through that influence the way the Chinese deal with people in this group. If they can successfully do this with all of China’s larger trading partners it might actually actually force change. On the other hand, it might not.

Personally I have found in my reading that the Chinese government has treated these guys pretty horrendously.

On the other hand, these guys seem a little on the cultish edge of the religion spectrum to me. Not exactly showing the love by actively trying to convert people to their movement in a country where that will get your organs harvested.

Sure. I understand the logic behind it. And while I commend their persistence and commitment, ultimately I don’t think having a group of 12 or so protesters permanently outside the Chinese embassy is going to make a lot of difference to the way our government deals with one of our largest trade partners. And on the very remote chance that it encouraged our government to address the issues with China, history suggests that they probably wouldn’t care at all about what we said.

p12:07 pm 29 Nov 11

Mysteryman said :

Protesting in Canberra about what the Chinese do in China (regardless of how abhorrent and offensive it is – and it certainly is, make no mistake) is going to make as much difference as protesting in Beijing about what the Legislative Assembly do in Canberra. THAT was the point.

Actually, I think maybe this protest, at the seat of the Australian Government, it supposed to influence the way Australia deals with China, and through that influence the way the Chinese deal with people in this group. If they can successfully do this with all of China’s larger trading partners it might actually actually force change. On the other hand, it might not.

Personally I have found in my reading that the Chinese government has treated these guys pretty horrendously. On the other hand, these guys seem a little on the cultish edge of the religion spectrum to me. Not exactly showing the love by actively trying to convert people to their movement in a country where that will get your organs harvested.

Mysteryman1:51 pm 29 Nov 11

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Rollersk8r said :

Off topic but reminds me – how are the Falun Dafa people allowed to permanently protest at Regatta Point and just what do they hope to achieve?? I have no idea what their issue is and have nothing against them other than the visual pollution of posters and banners at such prime tourist spot.

Their posters include pictures of dead and bloodied bodies, which I’d rather my young kids and I didn’t have to look at when trying to enjoy a nice walk in the sun.

Seems about as relevant for them to protest there as it would for Canberrans to protest in China over Canberra car parking prices. Except I couldn’t see any protest in China last very long.

I equate allegations of murder, torture and harvesting of human organs with the cost of car parking. TOOL.

Hey, CSRI, see the point? It’s all the way over there. Waaaaaay over there. Yep, you missed it completely. Again.

Protesting in Canberra about what the Chinese do in China (regardless of how abhorrent and offensive it is – and it certainly is, make no mistake) is going to make as much difference as protesting in Beijing about what the Legislative Assembly do in Canberra. THAT was the point.

bryansworld12:19 pm 29 Nov 11

Lots of razor wire and security cameras around the fence line now.

Kim F9:38 am 06 Aug 11

fgzk said :

Kim F said :

Errrrr, so no-one knows then ??????

It is Chinese territory and they will do with it as they please.???????????

I think they still need to meet NPA guidelines – particularly at a location on the lake

Feng10:59 pm 05 Aug 11

whitelaughter said :

Feng said :

The falungong crap just goes too far sometimes. The claims they make are so outrageous that it’s often unbelievable.

So why not check out one of the UN reports, links collected here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HappyInGeneral/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong_sources
(No, I don’t expect you to trust wiki, it’s just a convenient list of links: most of them on the UN website).

Right, read my post. Did I say they’re all untrue? Get my point – Some of their claims are so outrageous that it’s often unbelievable. Keyword there is often.

But of course, you trust everything the UN says and so you would believe everything on UN’s website. Just like the fact that UN has a mandate to ‘protect the population of Libya’ while at the same time, taking out military infrastructure of Libya beyond their mandate.

Feng10:55 pm 05 Aug 11

whitelaughter said :

Feng said :

The falungong crap just goes too far sometimes. The claims they make are so outrageous that it’s often unbelievable.

So why not check out one of the UN reports, links collected here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HappyInGeneral/Persecution_of_Falun_Gong_sources
(No, I don’t expect you to trust wiki, it’s just a convenient list of links: most of them on the UN website).

Right. Good on you on reading my post. Did I say that they’re all unbelievable? No. I said often.

And we will all believe the UN because it’s a totally democratic organisation that is not controlled by the U.S.

fgzk6:04 pm 05 Aug 11

Kim F said :

Errrrr, so no-one knows then ??????

It is Chinese territory and they will do with it as they please.???????????

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