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By ex-vectis - 15 January 2012 53

On Thursday at 5:15pm ish I was driving back to Tuggeronong along the parkway.  Doing my usual sticking to 100kph (indicated on GPS, but give it +-10% to prevent the replies about speedio accuracy :-)) and normally in the left lane but going into the right to overtake.

Passing the zoo, as I was overtaking a few cars and caravan, I noticed a Police car some distance behind, but getting nearer.  No worries, the lights/siren were not on and so just another vehicle.

As was was still overtaking the Police car came up behind and tailgated like he really wanted a good sniff of my backside.  Not to be intimidated by the idiot, I completed my manouver, going back into the left once passed the slower cars and leaving a suitable gap (IE. Not cutting them up as the bone head in the Police car obviously was trying to force me to do.).

Once back into the left lane he then proceeded to shoot past, obviously breaking the speed limit even if my speed was 10% slower than indicated and his was 10% higher.

The thing that really got the hairs on my neck to bristle was when he slowed (brake lights came on) for the Cotter road speed camera!!!  This proved that his speeding was premeditated and he knew he was breaking the law.

Ignoring whether the Parkway should be 100kph or 200kph, that ‘policeman’ was blatantly and knowingly speeding.  Not only that but he was so far up my backside he probably had a view of my appendix.

When even the police ignore laws that they have been entrusted to uphold – whether they agree with them or not – what hope is there that they can keep law and order.  That guy has been trusted with a firearm and is trusted – and paid – to ensure laws are not broken.  I have to say that my respect for ACT police has taken a bit of a kick.  I realise that it is just one person (although he did have another ‘policeman’ sat next to him who obviously also doesn’t give a damn about road safety) and every barrel will have the odd rotten apple but it just really bothered me.  Why should I stick to speed limits if the ACT Police themselves cant even be bothered.  Its just not right.

I’m currently writing to the ACT Police, copying the Chief Minister, about this (although I didnt get the rego) and will let you fellow Rioters what the response is.  Unfortunately, my money is that I get a fobbing off response – which will unhealthily reduce my respect even more.

What’s Your opinion?


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Police speeding
BerraBoy68 2:10 pm 15 Jan 12

ex-vectis, we must have only been a hundred or so meters apart. I have to say that while I was also very curious when he slowed down just prior to the speed camera, I was even more curious when he speed up again just past the overpass.

In any event, I just put it down to his being late for a meeting, change of shift or something similar. While the event did seem a bit odd, I still felt more comfortable having a police car go past me at speed than I do the P-platers, who do it everyday.

p1 1:59 pm 15 Jan 12

Primal said :

Mr Waffle said :

Ignoring the police-apologist “they’re allowed to speed!” brigade, it’s still hilarious that the cop slowed down for the speed camera…

Probably easier than doing the paperwork necessary to make the fine go away…

I was about to say the same thing. Really, the only part of this which stands out to me is the tailgating. Taking the OPs account at face value, tailgating was unnecessary. It it was urgent enough for them to speed, they could have blipped the lights/sirens for s second to get him outta the way.

Although, different people have different opinions about what is a safe distance…

buzz819 1:37 pm 15 Jan 12

ex-vectis said :

BenMac said :

Anyway, BenMac, I think you are wrong about the dangerous Police driving. The road law Exemption for drivers of police vehicles states that they can go above the speed limit but must display a red or blue flashing light and be sounding an alarm if it is equiped with them. In addition, if he was responding to a call why try to intimidate me by sniffing my backside and why slow down for the camera?

See you would have a lot more credibility if you actually researched what you are having drama’s with. I have no idea why the Police officer was speeding, or how fast they were going, or how slow you were going. The reason for my responding to an obvious troll is simply to point out that when you try to be right, ensure that you are actually right, or you will look like a real knob.

Here we go, Australian Road Rules, rule 305:

Exemption for drivers of police vehicles
305 Exemption for drivers of police vehicles

(1) A provision of the Australian Road Rules does not apply to the driver of a police vehicle if:
(a) in the circumstances:
(i) the driver is taking reasonable care, and
(ii) it is reasonable that the provision should not apply, and
(b) if the vehicle is a motor vehicle that is moving-the vehicle is displaying a blue or red flashing light or sounding an alarm.
Note: “Motor vehicle” and “police vehicle” are defined in the dictionary.

So yes, it does plainly say there, you have to had emergency lights or siren, but then you have to keep reading the next paragraph, obviously you left out that paragraph because you did not like it:

(2) Subrule (1) (b) does not apply to the driver if, in the circumstances, it is reasonable:
(a) not to display the light or sound the alarm, or
(b) for the vehicle not to be fitted or equipped with a blue or red flashing light or an alarm.

So, a Police car does not have to have lights or sirens on under reasonable circumstances, no point letting the crooks no they are coming now is it?

So did you get the registration of the vehicle and pass it on?

farq said :

ex-vectis: You know if you or I used a mobile phone while speeding on the parkway it would be dangerous, it does not matter that etheir of us have been driving fir 20years.

But a 23yr old police officer has done a couple of days training course in golbourne on ‘advanced’ driving so it safe for them to drive how they want.

Farq, you do realise that ACT Police do not train with NSW Police right? They do their training in the ACT….

matt31221 1:23 pm 15 Jan 12

I say let them. It sets a precedent for all of us to do the same without reprimand. Some of the speed limits in this town are way to low anyways.

Rawhide Kid Part3 1:19 pm 15 Jan 12

It’ll be interesting to see what will happen in this scenario when the point to point cameras are installed.

ex-vectis 1:09 pm 15 Jan 12

BenMac said :

Even though their lights and sirens aren’t on doesn’t mean they’re not enroute to an incident.

Beside, a police car would be an authorised vehicle under Australian road rules, and just like being able to use a handheld mobile phone, they can also go above the posted speed limit.

Ex-vectis, I wish I had seen what else you have posted here before responding. After reading this, your “issue” with the tradie and the ABC disappearing, I can see you live a very stressed life. I wholeheartedly await your next problem to get off your chest, providing it doesn’t cause you a heart attack.

Hahaha. There was bound to be one. I assure you my heart is very well and I’m far from stressed. Indeed RA probably helps in both respects as I can get things off my chest with it. Funnily enough the tradies thing had a postcript – it leaked, so got another plumber in and he fixed it (while being polite and very friendly and very resonable $$$$).

Anyway, BenMac, I think you are wrong about the dangerous Police driving. The road law Exemption for drivers of police vehicles states that they can go above the speed limit but must display a red or blue flashing light and be sounding an alarm if it is equiped with them. In addition, if he was responding to a call why try to intimidate me by sniffing my backside and why slow down for the camera?

NickD – By letting the police management know about this I hope that they consider some more training for our Police personel. By letting the Chief Minister know, I’m highlighting that the laws that are passed are not being observed by those trusted to uphold them. Maybe the laws should be reviewed…?

Primal – A good point. Maybe the paperwork is obstructive and should be reviewed. By letting management & law makers know, maybe it could facilitate that.

Jethro 12:53 pm 15 Jan 12

BenMac said :

Even though their lights and sirens aren’t on doesn’t mean they’re not enroute to an incident.

Beside, a police car would be an authorised vehicle under Australian road rules, and just like being able to use a handheld mobile phone, they can also go above the posted speed limit.

Are they allowed to tailgate other drivers in order to intimidate them out of the overtaking lane?

Primal 12:40 pm 15 Jan 12

Mr Waffle said :

Ignoring the police-apologist “they’re allowed to speed!” brigade, it’s still hilarious that the cop slowed down for the speed camera…

Probably easier than doing the paperwork necessary to make the fine go away…

NickD 12:35 pm 15 Jan 12

Given that you haven’t sent your letter of complaint, much less received a response, what are you hoping to achieve with this post? It’s no secret that some cops drive badly.

Mr Waffle 12:29 pm 15 Jan 12

Ignoring the police-apologist “they’re allowed to speed!” brigade, it’s still hilarious that the cop slowed down for the speed camera…

cross 12:25 pm 15 Jan 12

Policing is the the only job in the world where the the customer is always WRONG

farq 12:14 pm 15 Jan 12

ex-vectis: You know if you or I used a mobile phone while speeding on the parkway it would be dangerous, it does not matter that etheir of us have been driving fir 20years.

But a 23yr old police officer has done a couple of days training course in golbourne on ‘advanced’ driving so it safe for them to drive how they want.

andym 12:00 pm 15 Jan 12

Ex-vectis – Police are authorised or exempted from showing and sounding lights and sirens when undertaking urgent duty driving. Whereas fire and ambulance etc must.

BenMac 11:23 am 15 Jan 12

Ex-vectis, I wish I had seen what else you have posted here before responding. After reading this, your “issue” with the tradie and the ABC disappearing, I can see you live a very stressed life. I wholeheartedly await your next problem to get off your chest, providing it doesn’t cause you a heart attack.

BenMac 11:14 am 15 Jan 12

Even though their lights and sirens aren’t on doesn’t mean they’re not enroute to an incident.

Beside, a police car would be an authorised vehicle under Australian road rules, and just like being able to use a handheld mobile phone, they can also go above the posted speed limit.

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