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Protests over Deakin McMansions.

By farq 7 January 2013 134

Protests over Deakin McMansion

Personally I think it’s time for this kind of thing to come to and end. Big houses right to the edge of the block don’t belong in established suburbs!

I live in West Belconnen, we had one of these cheap Rietveld-Schröder House knock offs built across the road. It’s big(almost 3 stories, right up against boundaries), ugly (purple), it looks into the neighbours yards and is so poorly designed the main living areas all face west. It goes without saying that not a single tree is left on the block (and the garden is now too small for anything but a patch of fake grass).

We are just thankful it was not built next door.

The big worry is that as our street is full of 3-bedroom single bathroom houses on big blocks (all built in the early 70s) and unless things change it’s only a matter of time before stuff starts getting demolished and the street ends up claustrophobic and over-crowded like Gungahlin.

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carnardly 9:03 am 29 Jan 13

a bit like the “Concerned Citizens of Canberra” that protested loudly about “our thoughts” on a mosque in the northern side of town.

And then it came to light in the Canberra Times that the Concerned Citizens of Canberra comprised of 4 individuals. Certainly not the majority of the rest of us.

Tony4PM 7:48 pm 28 Jan 13

I’ve never heard of the “Deakin Residents Association” but I can categorically state they do not represent my views and they have never contacted me in any way, shape, or form to garner my view, so here it is for their edification…

a) The house in question is fine by me and is a massive improvement over the shack that was existing.

b) I was genuinely shocked to see such blatant abuse of people’s privacy by the Canberra Times at the bidding of a vocal minority. Shameful.

aussielyn 4:38 pm 11 Jan 13

Getting back to the original post, on knockdown/rebuilds, the planning rules will change when the new ACT Govt responds to the report of the old planning committee on DV 306. This was due on 19 Dec and we are waiting! Both Lib & Lab are beholden to the will of the Property Council, the ACT Budget is dependent on development for revenue.

The current rules and criteria depend on the zoning and size of the block amongst other things. The law is getting more complex despite requests for simplicity from industry and community councils. Of course, everyone should have the freedom to build whatever they like, as long as it is compliant with the rules. My view is that people wanting to rebuild should show their future neighbours their concept plans early so it can be changed if agreed.

See below, at page 25 and be bedazzled by the complexity, for the current law:
http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/ni/2008-27/copy/90319/pdf/2008-27.pdf

Col1234 3:17 pm 11 Jan 13

Looks like their neighbours are moving out, trucks everywhere..

rosscoact 3:07 pm 11 Jan 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

54-11 said :

The Andrew Kefford abomination is on a corner block, which was well treed and landscaped, and had an older home on it, before the Philistines attacked. Google street view gives some idea of what it used to be like.

It is now a 2-storey eyesore, no trees, no room for trees and other visual screening, and stands out like dog’s balls. And it always will. How can some of you here say that that is an improvement?

The fact that there are umpteen 4WDs parked outside (unable to get into the garage) speaks for itself.

What does it say?

I’m a garage! Fear me.

NoImRight 2:48 pm 11 Jan 13

54-11 said :

The Andrew Kefford abomination is on a corner block, which was well treed and landscaped, and had an older home on it, before the Philistines attacked. Google street view gives some idea of what it used to be like.

It is now a 2-storey eyesore, no trees, no room for trees and other visual screening, and stands out like dog’s balls. And it always will. How can some of you here say that that is an improvement?

The fact that there are umpteen 4WDs parked outside (unable to get into the garage) speaks for itself.

Perhaps because you are talking about some subjective points and not everyone likes the same things you do?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 2:08 pm 11 Jan 13

54-11 said :

The Andrew Kefford abomination is on a corner block, which was well treed and landscaped, and had an older home on it, before the Philistines attacked. Google street view gives some idea of what it used to be like.

It is now a 2-storey eyesore, no trees, no room for trees and other visual screening, and stands out like dog’s balls. And it always will. How can some of you here say that that is an improvement?

The fact that there are umpteen 4WDs parked outside (unable to get into the garage) speaks for itself.

What does it say?

54-11 1:57 pm 11 Jan 13

The Andrew Kefford abomination is on a corner block, which was well treed and landscaped, and had an older home on it, before the Philistines attacked. Google street view gives some idea of what it used to be like.

It is now a 2-storey eyesore, no trees, no room for trees and other visual screening, and stands out like dog’s balls. And it always will. How can some of you here say that that is an improvement?

The fact that there are umpteen 4WDs parked outside (unable to get into the garage) speaks for itself.

NoImRight 1:24 pm 11 Jan 13

farq said :

DaveT said :

A house built in 1968 is probably nearing the end of its lifespan anyway…

Next time I’m in Sydney I’ll point that out to people living in 100 year old terraces houses.

100 year old terrace is probably much better built than the 1960s sausage factory house.

Holden Caulfield 12:45 pm 11 Jan 13

farq said :

DaveT said :

A house built in 1968 is probably nearing the end of its lifespan anyway…

Next time I’m in Sydney I’ll point that out to people living in 100 year old terraces houses.

30 years ago I lived in a house that was already over 100 years old. It’s still being used as a house.

thebrownstreak69 12:02 pm 11 Jan 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Deref said :

schmeah said :

Chances are, that house built in 1968 will still be standing when your MacMansion has succumb to the rubbish quality of workmanship and design holding it together.

+1

I have mates in the building industry and the tales they tell of the quality of these abominations would curl your hair. Ten years from now the building industry will thrive on repairing the faults or knocking them down (which will probably be cheaper) and building something else.

Can we get some actual sources to these claims?

I can’t provide a formal source, but anecdotally the rule with buildings in Canberra seems to be ‘the newer, the worse’.

farq 11:26 am 11 Jan 13

DaveT said :

A house built in 1968 is probably nearing the end of its lifespan anyway…

Next time I’m in Sydney I’ll point that out to people living in 100 year old terraces houses.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 9:49 am 11 Jan 13

Deref said :

schmeah said :

Chances are, that house built in 1968 will still be standing when your MacMansion has succumb to the rubbish quality of workmanship and design holding it together.

+1

I have mates in the building industry and the tales they tell of the quality of these abominations would curl your hair. Ten years from now the building industry will thrive on repairing the faults or knocking them down (which will probably be cheaper) and building something else.

Can we get some actual sources to these claims?

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