Ram rage

VG you are quick to jump on stupid suggestions where made, and fair enough. But what about the substantive issue?

I too have been subject to a similar (although not as serious) incident where a turd in a pimped up Lexus tried to make me run up his bum several times up Federal Hwy and Flemington Rd. And even though he parked clearly in the Gungahlin town centre and I went straight to the local station with his rego, nothing resulted.

Given the amount of time police have to spend attending MV accidents, you’d think they’d be as pissed off with this sort of dangerous driving as they seem to be with drink driving. And the occasional car chase tells us that they’ll react when they see road rules being flouted in front of them.

sorry I got the motto wrong and wasn’t well spoken or better yet I don’t type as well as some, doesn’t mean I deserved to be hung up on or be asked what I wanted the POLICE to do about a brawl, the fact was I called the POLICE as it is part of there job to restore order and PROTECT the gerenal public for harm EG: where 2 people were being bashed by 8-10 other people with chairs and that I feared for my safety or in other cases on here crazy drivers running people off the road.

It still begs the question, though, as to whether the citizens of the ACT are getting adequate policing. This isn’t about individual officers, but rather the overall approach and resourcing.

I have a friend that was chased, and then the driver attempted to ram her off the road in belco, last year.

She told me that the guy was in a 4WD, but he seemed to be trying the american police tactic of PIT – Pursuit Intervention Technique, and was targeting the back side of her car to give it a nudge, spinning her out and off the road.

The shame of it (for him) was that she is an american police officer, here on a secondment. She knew exactly how to counter his behavior, and eventually just pulled over to see what was the matter. He wasn’t expecting her to get out of her vehicle and approach him.

he drove off. She did report it, but felt that there wasn’t much that could be done, he seemed to be off his head on something, and probably wouldn’t be easy to catch or prove his behavior at the time. She doesn’t sweat the small stuff.

Oh, and protect and serve is the motto of the LAPD…

Did you know that Pajero is a Spanish slang word for wanker? I wish other 4WD manufacturers were more honest with the description of their drivers.

vg said :

rottweiler said :

Sorry but I have no time for calling the police for anything after ringing them for help as two guys were copping a beating form several other guys and chairs were being thrown around that was happening outside a fast food outlet in the city late one night and I couldn’t or wouldn’t leave for my own safety when I called the police they asked me what did I want them to do about it I explained that the brawl was in progess and I feared leaving the store as it was happening within meters of the door and still he ask what I wanted him to do when my response was what is on your badge “to serve and protect” what do you think I want you to do PROTECT ME for the thugs outside beating up people they hung up on me, so now i don’t bother I believe if they not catching the “big guns” or “news worthy” then it doesn’t matter to them and sorry if I affend people but thats the way I feel

If you said that all in 1 sentence, as you typed it, I’m not surprised you got no help.

“when my response was what is on your badge “to serve and protect” what do you think I want you to do PROTECT ME”

Pop off to either New York or LA (from memory) as that’s their motto. The AFP’s is ‘Nulli Secundus’

so are you saying that you’ll only get assistance if you are well spoken?

Nice troll TP3000!

Ceej1973, I suspect that you were in a vechile smaller then this pussy’s Pajero? As you’ll never see them take on the mighte of one of us bus drivers, as they know that there pussy mobile would be totaled.

What I’ve taken to is pretending to be an unmarked Police car & if anyone is speeding of swerving in & out of traffic, I speed right up on them & follow them on their tail for a few k’s. It is funny how quickly they change their driving pattern from doing 100k’s down Adelaide Avenue when they think a cop is behind them. What I do may appear unsafe, but it stops 85% of these pussy’s in their tracks & the traffic piggy’s can stay at their desk eating doughnuts.

But I will be fair to General Duties Police Officers within ACT Police. Most of them would like to do their job of fighting crime. But there is so many rules & regulations that come close to getting officers sacked for putting handcuffs on a criminal. The ones to blame for most of this are Civil Libertarians who bitch & moan at anything the Police do.

Time to face facts here. When it all goes to custard you are on your own. Once you know that you can have a risk mitigation strategy in place.

farnarkler said :

DJ you’ll be a victim all your life. Hope you’re enjoying it.

Actually what he’ll be is the guy who isn’t getting his head punched in because he ‘took it into his own hands’ and bit off more than he could chew (and then rang the Police to help him extract himself from a situation of his own making).

Everyone’s a vigilante until they bite off more than they can chew. Then they are the one’s who are another victim.

“If I had the rego I would bribe someone at Dickson rego to give me the address of the scumbags. Their cars would soon be undriveable.”

And you’d be the girlfriend of a man called Bubba for a few years when you get caught Einstein

rottweiler said :

Sorry but I have no time for calling the police for anything after ringing them for help as two guys were copping a beating form several other guys and chairs were being thrown around that was happening outside a fast food outlet in the city late one night and I couldn’t or wouldn’t leave for my own safety when I called the police they asked me what did I want them to do about it I explained that the brawl was in progess and I feared leaving the store as it was happening within meters of the door and still he ask what I wanted him to do when my response was what is on your badge “to serve and protect” what do you think I want you to do PROTECT ME for the thugs outside beating up people they hung up on me, so now i don’t bother I believe if they not catching the “big guns” or “news worthy” then it doesn’t matter to them and sorry if I affend people but thats the way I feel

If you said that all in 1 sentence, as you typed it, I’m not surprised you got no help.

“when my response was what is on your badge “to serve and protect” what do you think I want you to do PROTECT ME”

Pop off to either New York or LA (from memory) as that’s their motto. The AFP’s is ‘Nulli Secundus’

DJ you’ll be a victim all your life. Hope you’re enjoying it.

farnarkler said :

If the police aren’t willing to do anything about these incidents then they can’t get upset when people take matters into their own hands.

If I had the rego I would bribe someone at Dickson rego to give me the address of the scumbags. Their cars would soon be undriveable.

Idiot.

Here, what can I do for you?

Come on tooks, where are you?

#19 bigred, I too have tried the online Crimestoppers mechanism, and nothing EVER eventuated. It appears that the Comms centre of AFP do not know the procedure for reporting a crime. As I have heard from the AFP Commissions own mouth, if you have witnessed a “traffic” crime, and are prepared to make a statement that may go to court, you should report it to the comms number, and request an Officer take your statement. That way, it has to be actioned within 28 days. All other matters, that are not life threatening, should go through Crimestoppers. For the past few years I have been reporting burnouts via the comms number, and always asked to speek to an Officer for the purpose of making a statement, should one be required. Then a few months ago I got a person on the comms line who did not know the procedure, and said there is only one way to report burnouts now, and that is via Crimestoppers online. So, the moral is, if you want something done, dont let the comms people palm you off to Crimestoppers, state that you want to make a statement.

I have just read in todays Chronicle newspaper, that ACT Police in conjunction with AIC (Aust. Inst. Criminology) are conducting a survey on the AFP website, in order to gauge victims of crime data from those affected within the past 2 years. I would encourage people that have been victims to contribute. I for one will. I can only have a clear concience in my doubts about the AFP’s pro-activeness, if I am pro-active myself.

Sepi, I tried acting super Neit’s suggestion out a bit over a week ago. Used the on line reporting mechanism. Heard nothing yet.

@ #12 (rottweiler) – I wonder what would have been the response if you mentioned that one of the offenders was waving a gun around.

Where’s Tooks? He/she usually jumps to the defence of the AFP whenever someone says something negative about them.

The cops must have been too busy deciding not to pursue an offender in a ratty old ute in Manuka…

I was driving behind an idiot in heavy early morning traffic when he hit his brakes hard and ran up the back of the car in front of him. The car in front pulled onto the median, but the guy who hit him quickly changed lanes and drove off. I pulled onto the median strip and gave the guy who had been hit the make of car and numberplate, plus my details as witness. Same story, the police didn’t see fit to pursue the matter. FFS, they had the guy on a plate! I don’t understand.

And on the subject of rego, I think it used to be the case that you could get name and address from someone’s rego, you just had to say they were parked across your driveway or something. Not anymore though, I’d reckon.

There seems to be a common theme to all the violent crimes that have occured across Canberra over the past week, and in particular in Tuggeranong. All the descriptions of vehicles are 4WD’s. I am left wondering if this is the same offender who tried ramming me off the road, or just a coincidence. I am praying in hope that someone in the Force reads these threads and does some investigative work, or has the common sence to put a case together.The car that was involved in a violent road rage incident and attack on Police in Charnwood the night before, was also a blue 4WD. Could it be possible that the “later released” offenders had access to the 4wd drive again, and used it to ram me the following night. I mean,I may be way off with this theory, and I may not be succesful in my attempt to get speed camera fixed postion footage of the mental case that ran me off the road, but at least I am doing some detective work myself. Excuss my rant, just trying to stimulate some pro-activeness in the Police community.

If the police aren’t willing to do anything about these incidents then they can’t get upset when people take matters into their own hands.

If I had the rego I would bribe someone at Dickson rego to give me the address of the scumbags. Their cars would soon be undriveable.

Sorry but I have no time for calling the police for anything after ringing them for help as two guys were copping a beating form several other guys and chairs were being thrown around that was happening outside a fast food outlet in the city late one night and I couldn’t or wouldn’t leave for my own safety when I called the police they asked me what did I want them to do about it I explained that the brawl was in progess and I feared leaving the store as it was happening within meters of the door and still he ask what I wanted him to do when my response was what is on your badge “to serve and protect” what do you think I want you to do PROTECT ME for the thugs outside beating up people they hung up on me, so now i don’t bother I believe if they not catching the “big guns” or “news worthy” then it doesn’t matter to them and sorry if I affend people but thats the way I feel

I do sometimes wonder about the focus of Police attention. I’d like to think that violent, dangerous anti-social behaviour (such as this) would be at the top of their list…though it seems more often that they’re too busy busting minor drug deals & the like. Note: I have no idea really as to how Police divide their time.

#7 – agreed. I called the police when I witnessed a woman being run off the road (I was the only one who stopped to help, which surprised me) and they told me to report it at the nearest police station. I had the number plate, described the car and the road it was on. Nothing.

I wonder if anyone has tried to report scary drivers since Supt Darryl Neit went public suggesting members of the public do so? It would be interesting to know if the response is any different.

That would scare the bezeezus out of me!

I called the police after an incident where three girls in a car decided to throw bottles of softdrink and whatever else was handy at my vehicle from theirs. I called them as incident was occurring, I had location, number plate etc. Response – nil. not interested, why are you calling us, nothing we can do……WTF?!

dvaey said :

I hope you have some luck in resolving this issue, but unfortunately I believe BenMac might be right that its a stolen car. Given the treatment my fathers car received the last time it was stolen (dozens of good quality fingerprints on glass/mirrors when the police found it, all smudged when we got back police claimed they were smudged when they got the car), I doubt the police will seriously follow up the stolen car report much more than putting a report into a computer.

I dont suppose you managed to get even a partial numberplate?

I think the police would treat an incident like this very seriously, might wonder why it was not immediately reported and be the only avenue for accessing the camera footage.

Unfortunately you might be out of luck with the camera. Its not a real streaming camera or even a general-view camera, it focuses on the lane its focusing on and not much else. I saw an accident happen in basically the middle of the intersection once, and the police were asking for witnesses as the camera was out-of-view of the accident scene. Even though the accident was in the middle of the intersection for about half an hour there wasnt a single image on the camera of even the damaged cars.

I hope you have some luck in resolving this issue, but unfortunately I believe BenMac might be right that its a stolen car. Given the treatment my fathers car received the last time it was stolen (dozens of good quality fingerprints on glass/mirrors when the police found it, all smudged when we got back police claimed they were smudged when they got the car), I doubt the police will seriously follow up the stolen car report much more than putting a report into a computer.

I dont suppose you managed to get even a partial numberplate?

Weeziepops, Ive seen that car before and the men who drive it and had to have a bit of a laugh too.

Sounds like a stolen car. Probably no chance of finding the driver. The car’s probably dumped somewhere.

How awful! Disappointing no-one around did anything to help (ie: quickly call 000 and try and get the po-leece there). I had a similar experience (without the actual contact, thank goodness) with a couple of young “men” in a Magna, license plate “Jessi” (go, macho man), who tormented me for a good stretch of the Parkway a couple of months back.

Sounds like a terrifying experience.

Hopefully the only death this dropkick causes is his own. I only have sympathy for the poor emergency service staff that will have to clean up the mess.

denice?