Remove the SIEV X memorial – Lloyd

Ralph 17 October 2007 84

The ABC is reporting comments by Federal Territories Minister, Jim Lloyd, who today criticised the Stanhope Government’s backhanded moves to make the SIEV X memorial in Weston Park a permanent fixture.

Minister Lloyd noted that the memorial is damaging to other permanent monuments to police and service personnel.

While the SIEV X protest art was initially meant to be a temporary structure, the Stanhope Government has granted a 12 month extension for the sculpture to remain.

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Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 1:08 am 22 Oct 07

Momerial should be memorial. Sue me. It’s the Americ- uhh…Aussie way!

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 1:07 am 22 Oct 07

Whilst I don’t agree with Ingee, he has reminded me to say that I think the ANZAC’S get overused in political debates and alot of people misconceive what they actually did.
In reality, WW1 was a pretty stupid war for pretty stupid causes. WW2 is about the only war where Australia was at risk from invasion. Korea, Vietnam – all bullshit. We lost the last one anyway.
The memorials should be about honoring the dead, recognising that they gave their lives and fought bravely but most of all serving as a reminder of what war truly is; tragedy. Also, they stand as monuments to our heritage, since many of our grandfathers served in war – and that is why the SIEV momerial should stay, because, whether you like it or not, in years to come, the boat people will be part of the heritage of many Australians.
To ignore the dangers posed to many of them would be irresponsible.

Pandy Pandy 10:30 pm 21 Oct 07

I’ll use that shovel nyssa to make sure he did not grt up.

I sure miss getting rid of ISP posting details.. The frackturd probably is not an aussie anyway.

nyssa76 nyssa76 9:00 pm 21 Oct 07

Ingeegoodbee, yeah keep going mate. It’s nice when you can express yourself so freely….oh wait, that’s because those you are slagging off died for. They were ordered to go, they did it without complaint and died in the most horrendous conditions.

A little ‘trench foot’ would go down wonders perhaps?

Just keep digging, sooner or later you’ll need some help getting out of that hole, but I sure as hell won’t help you.

Ingeegoodbee Ingeegoodbee 8:22 pm 21 Oct 07

Ralph … I’ve had dribbles off the end of my cock that have been worth responding to – your contribution, alas, doesn’t event make that grade!

Shauno … the smell of my farts are more patriotic that anything you will ever aspire to be, or will ever achieve – period – regardless of what you do – ever… end of story. You are an A-class tool with little understanding of this issue as demonstrated by your post. Go and re-read the lot, get yourself an education (not one of those lame arse public school ones though – they’re useless).

Oh we’d all love to draw on the grandiose glory of those lame enough, and dumb enough , to get snuffed in a war, its just the sorry little band of insignificant tools who worship at the alter of the fabricated ANZACC legend who’d love nothing more than to get down on their knees and open up wide to receive the big throbbing member of patriotic dribble …

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 4:36 pm 21 Oct 07

Pull your head in Ingeegoodbee. ANZAC memorials aren’t a ‘left versus the right’ issue, you miserable, ungrateful arseclown.

shauno shauno 4:30 pm 21 Oct 07

“ngeegoodbee” Mate from some of your comments above it makes me pissed off to think you are Australian.

How the hell did you develop this view

“some percieved diference between soldiers and prospective migrants (illegal or otherwise), but dead is dead baby, and the dead sure as hell don’t need a memorial.”

You honestly believe that these people that drowned at sea on the Siev X have anything in common with for example the thousands that died defending this nation in WW2?

Jeese mate if you are the product of a recent school education in Australia this country has a big problem.

Ralph Ralph 4:27 pm 21 Oct 07

I understand that you are really just trying to save face now – given your heinous comments.

Sad, really.

Ingeegoodbee Ingeegoodbee 2:42 pm 21 Oct 07

Ralph, if failing to regurgitate policies devised by the right to appeal to the swinging left that you don’t even understand – like you do, makes me un-Australian then so be it.

The reality is though that I’ve done sh!ts that were more Australian in their own right than you’ll ever aspire to be.

Ralph Ralph 2:34 pm 21 Oct 07

Agree nyssa, truly disgusting sentiments from these yellowbellies.

nyssa76 nyssa76 12:29 pm 21 Oct 07

So my points proven then – it’s somehow ok to write-off the lives of one group of people, but pay homage to another simply for dying.

They died so that idiots like you could ‘chose’ to slag them off and anything else that tickles your fancy without being shot/bashed/detained.

Why don’t you just go piss on the ANZAC memorial and burn the flag?

What an ungrateful prick you are.

Deadmandrinking Deadmandrinking 11:44 am 21 Oct 07

From the looks of the link on your handle, Ralph, better to say “how un-american!”, don’t you think?

Ralph Ralph 10:11 am 21 Oct 07

You just don’t get it do you?

How un-Australian.

Ingeegoodbee Ingeegoodbee 10:05 am 21 Oct 07

Good work Pandy,you tool.

Ingeegoodbee Ingeegoodbee 10:04 am 21 Oct 07

So my points proven then – it’s somehow ok to write-off the lives of one group of people, but pay homage to another simply for dying.

Sure, there’ll be the usual queue of soft-heads clammering to bleat on about some percieved diference between soldiers and prospective migrants (illegal or otherwise), but dead is dead baby, and the dead sure as hell don’t need a memorial.

Pandy Pandy 12:40 am 21 Oct 07

Ingeegoodbee, I am starting to feel that using a cricket bat over your head would save the Earth from an oxygen thief.

nyssa76 nyssa76 10:43 pm 20 Oct 07

Ingeegoodbee, isn’t it great to have an opinion and not be shot or detained for it?

Oh that’s right, &^*^ the people who died for our country just so you can shit on them without your family paying for the cost of the bullet that killed you.

When my grandfather served and saw his mates killed in a POW camp, yeah I’m sure he wanted a memorial just so he could ‘deal’ with it. The sight of seeing his mates waste away or be shot was such a happy time for him. Next time I see him I’ll ask him if his own time of torture was similar to a family fun day.

FFS, wake up to yourself.

cranky cranky 10:04 pm 20 Oct 07

Ok. I’ll bite.

Your rant is so OTT I can’t believe it is written by a sober, sane individual, who has any knowledge of Australian history.

A cup of tea, a Bex and a good lie down could do wonders.

Ingeegoodbee Ingeegoodbee 9:52 pm 20 Oct 07

Crap. There’s not a memorial erected that wasn’t done to suck up to, or appease, or get favour with some bunch of jerk-offs, be they ex-service people looking to get a little reflected glory from the demise of their former colleagues, or families who feel that the un-fulfilled potential of their departed needs a Government subsidy to help justify the feelings they cant reconcile in their own hearts … in the end they’re all just another grubby little political exercise.

cranky cranky 9:42 pm 20 Oct 07

I would be hard pressed to declare the WW1/WW2 memorial in (Lower) Girilambone a politically motivated construction.

The same cannot be said for the SEIV X sticks.

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