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Road Rule Reminder, Loading Zones

By Sgt.Bungers 10 March 2011 39

An open reminder to all ACT residents and motor vehicle users.

Loading Zones.

From the Australian Road Rules: 179 Stopping in a loading zone

(1) A driver must not stop in a loading zone unless the driver is driving:
(a) a public bus that is dropping off, or picking up, passengers; or
(b) a truck that is dropping off, or picking up, goods; or
(c) a vehicle that is permitted to stop in the loading zone under another law of this jurisdiction.

Offence provision.

(2) A driver who is permitted to stop in a loading zone must not stay continuously in the zone for longer than:
(a) 30 minutes; or
(b) if information on or with the loading zone signs applying to the loading zone indicates another time — the indicated time; or
(c) for a driver who is permitted to stop in the loading zone under another law of this jurisdiction that provides for a shorter period — that period. Offence provision.

(rant) Could everyone please note the wording of point one – a driver must not stop in a loading zone – instantly prohibiting all road users from stopping their vehicle of choice against a curb in a loading zone unless they fall under the criteria outlined in the remaining dot points of the rule.

Also please note, the absence of dot points d, e or f, under rule 1, which many Australian Capital Territorians seem to believe exist:

d: a driver of any vehicle may park in a loading zone if they’ll just be 5 minutes.
e: A driver may wait indefinitely in a loading zone between 5 and 6 pm, if picking up a significant other or friend from work.
f: May park in any loading zone in Canberra city any time after 5:10pm on a Friday so as to wander over to after work drinks at Uni Pub or Muddle.

Yes, parking is getting tighter, particularly in Canberra City… however loading zones don’t exactly exist in abundance either.  If nothing else is free nearby, you may just have to head to the wilson car park, or an ACT gov carpark and walk 200 metres. Gahh! (end rant)

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:54 am 17 Jul 12

p1 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

And where am I supposed to park a ute with modifications that no longer fits in a car park?

If you have modified a ute to the point where it no longer fits in a regular parking spot, it must no longer comply with ADRs, which either means it is illegal, or you have had an engineer certify the modifications, in which case it would be registered under the new weight.

Although, I am not disputing the difficulty of accessing tool boxes etc from such a parking space.

Well I was in a crash last year and neither the police or insurance company said anything, neither have the vehicle inspectors I sometimes get stopped at when they have road blocks in place.

Also, I’m sure you will all find that there is a difference between normal loading zones( which I use every day and ave never been booked, including just to get lunch) and goods only loading zones(which I do not use)

hermanmunster1 7:42 pm 16 Jul 12

KeenGolfer said :

hermanmunster1 said :

Am I breaking any laws? No. If you call it selfish well BAD LUCK. !!

Yes you are. What you are doing is illegal if you are not loading/unloading your vehicle. You can’t park in a loading zone regardless of type of vehicle or if you have a permit unless you are also loading/unloading said vehicle. Australian Road Rules section 179 (1) (b).

Um hello,
Have you been following this thread? Becuse I’m the best, those silly little rules don’t apply to me.
So, NO i’m not breaking the law. See how awsome I am.

p1 9:40 am 13 Jul 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

And where am I supposed to park a ute with modifications that no longer fits in a car park?

If you have modified a ute to the point where it no longer fits in a regular parking spot, it must no longer comply with ADRs, which either means it is illegal, or you have had an engineer certify the modifications, in which case it would be registered under the new weight.

Although, I am not disputing the difficulty of accessing tool boxes etc from such a parking space.

rosscoact 7:07 am 13 Jul 12

Meh, I’ll still stop to pick up and drop off stuff. If I get a fine well I deserve it and will cop it sweet.

In reality though there are so few people on the ground that it’s highly unlikely that that will ever happen. In the whole scheme of things this is really small potatoes

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:58 am 13 Jul 12

thy_dungeonman said :

no idea said :

Utes are registered as light trucks and as far as I know can be parked in a loading zone to um er pick up and or drop off goods. We pay extra rego it must be for something!

hermanmunster1 said :

When I am paying $1272.30c for 12months rego this entitles me to use them
Keep on trucking Rubber Ducky!!!

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Sorry bro. I pay rego on 4 utes and two long bed transits. Around 8 k a year. I’m taking full advantage of loading zones. If you do not like utes using loading zones, talk to the government ang get them to change the compulsury increased ute registration fees.

You people do realize that you pay higher rego because the vehicles you drive are heavier and therefore cause more damage to the roads right?

Where do you get that idea from? I’m paying rego for the weight of when I bought them, not after modifications. One ute with no tray, 3 falcon utes with aluminium tray and 2 transits with aluminium flat trays. How do the falcons weigh more than a falcon sedan in your mind?

And people saying its against the law, how come on several occasions I have gotten out In front of a parking inspector and they do no more than chalk the tyre?
And where am I supposed to park a ute with modifications that no longer fits in a car park?

Sandman 10:21 pm 12 Jul 12

A truck (North American and Australian English) or lorry (British and Commonwealth English) is a motor vehicle designed to transport cargo. Trucks vary greatly in size, power, and configuration,

Interstate vehicles with GCV on the sticker are good to go

Action buses don’t park in loading zones, they park either in the bus zones at the end of their run or at the depot. Murrays buses park at Jolimont, most other buses park in bus zones.

The main argument has nothing to do with “The Law”, it’s more common courtesy and selfishness that’s the big issue.

Pork Hunt 7:24 pm 12 Jul 12

What is the definition of a truck?
What about interstate vehicles?
An ACTION bus is public, what about a Murrays bus?

thy_dungeonman 6:35 pm 12 Jul 12

no idea said :

Utes are registered as light trucks and as far as I know can be parked in a loading zone to um er pick up and or drop off goods. We pay extra rego it must be for something!

hermanmunster1 said :

When I am paying $1272.30c for 12months rego this entitles me to use them
Keep on trucking Rubber Ducky!!!

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Sorry bro. I pay rego on 4 utes and two long bed transits. Around 8 k a year. I’m taking full advantage of loading zones. If you do not like utes using loading zones, talk to the government ang get them to change the compulsury increased ute registration fees.

You people do realize that you pay higher rego because the vehicles you drive are heavier and therefore cause more damage to the roads right?

cranky 5:56 pm 12 Jul 12

A thread well appreciated.

Owning a wagon and a light truck, both registered in the ACT, and both classified as business vehicles, I really get annoyed at Govco treatment of vehicles and loading zones.

I pay the same rego for the Holden wagon and the 2.5t truck. However, to get a loading zone sticker for the wagon I must present, in person, at a Gov shopfront to claim my ‘free’ loading zone permit! It seems that even though you pay the additional fees for commercial registration, it is beyond the powers of the Gov to issue a permit with the rego renewal. You have to present at a shopfront, show the rego papers, and hang around whilst the permit is printed.

More interesting is trying to claim the wagon is no longer business related. Seems Govco hate to lose the additional revenue that commercial vehicles attract. It appears you may be claiming the vehicle as business for (Federal) tax purposes, but claiming private for (ACT) rego purposes. Shock, Horror, you may be getting away with something. So Govco require you to (again) attend a shopfront and sign your life away that this vehicle has reverted to private useage.

Why on earth are vehicles paying the higher commercial rates not given a GCV note on their rego stickers? Guess that would be too easy.

KeenGolfer 4:35 pm 12 Jul 12

hermanmunster1 said :

Am I breaking any laws? No. If you call it selfish well BAD LUCK. !!

Yes you are. What you are doing is illegal if you are not loading/unloading your vehicle. You can’t park in a loading zone regardless of type of vehicle or if you have a permit unless you are also loading/unloading said vehicle. Australian Road Rules section 179 (1) (b).

KB1971 3:47 pm 12 Jul 12

scorpio63 said :

I had to collect 6 x large pizzas from APK in Woden as part of a Christmas work lunch one lunch period in my own vehicle a few years ago that our Manager had organised. As there was a longer loading zone across from the APK and no-one parked at the time, I flew into APK and collected the pizzas stacked high in my arms which took less than 5 minutes to pay and collect.

Upon walking towards my vehicle I noticed that the parking inspector had visited in less than 5 minutes and issued a fine.

I returned to work with the pizzas, sat them down, returned to my desk and dealt with quite a few emails and calls built up in my absence, ducked around the corner for a little piece of the pizza (normally never get lunch) only to discover that all of the pizzas had been devoured by staff.

LOL….an expensive work Christmas lunch!

Now there is loading zone karma right there !!! 😛

carnardly 3:47 pm 12 Jul 12

I never park in loading zones, disabled parks or whatever. I would’ve just found a spot in the carpark there and parked for free – even if it did take another few mins to get in and out. I’m too scabby to risk copping a fine. Plus I’m not disabled or loading etc.

If i saw you park for pizzas in a loading zone and cop a ticket i’d have a quiet and “sucko!” chuckle to myself. 🙂

scorpio63 3:45 pm 12 Jul 12

I have since learned a few things about my kind heartedness given to hundreds of working colleagues across Canberra over 25 years one being not to jeopardise my licence or income; few people appreciate what has been done for them personally in work environments (here in Canberra).

scorpio63 3:29 pm 12 Jul 12

I had to collect 6 x large pizzas from APK in Woden as part of a Christmas work lunch one lunch period in my own vehicle a few years ago that our Manager had organised. As there was a longer loading zone across from the APK and no-one parked at the time, I flew into APK and collected the pizzas stacked high in my arms which took less than 5 minutes to pay and collect.

Upon walking towards my vehicle I noticed that the parking inspector had visited in less than 5 minutes and issued a fine.

I returned to work with the pizzas, sat them down, returned to my desk and dealt with quite a few emails and calls built up in my absence, ducked around the corner for a little piece of the pizza (normally never get lunch) only to discover that all of the pizzas had been devoured by staff.

LOL….an expensive work Christmas lunch!

Very Busy 1:41 pm 12 Jul 12

You are not alone hermanmunster1. I see your type daily on Canberra roads. “Me me me me me. It’s all about me”.

I guess the difference is that most of the rude arrogant pri%ks on Canberras roads don’t seem to know that they’re a rude arrogant pri%k. You seem to have some idea.

Deref 1:38 pm 12 Jul 12

hermanmunster1 said :

See you on the road scag.

What’s a road scag, and how do you get on one?

hermanmunster1 12:55 pm 12 Jul 12

LSWCHP said :

hermanmunster1 said :

This really gives me the sh!ts.

I own a 4WD Ute and I park in loading zones all around Canberra. If there are spare parks close by yes I will use them, but if there are not bad luck loading zone it is.
When I am paying $1272.30c for 12months rego this entitles me to use them & I will make the most of the convenience!! I understand your anger at non-authorised vehicles using them it is like using disabled parks when not authorised.
I reckon truckies are the backbone / life blood of OZ, apologies if I make your job that little bit harder but do not get the shi#s with authorised vehicles, blame the ACT Gov. for not providing adequate spaces. You are lucky I do not park in your driveway!
Keep on trucking Rubber Ducky!!!

Now there is some truly outstanding addled gibberish!!

If I understand correctly, the message is something like this…

“I choose of my own free will to drive a certain type of vehicle, and pay extra rego as a result of my choice. Therefore I can behave like a complete tool and park wherever I like without regard for others, even though I acknowledge that it’s like parking in handicapped spaces when I’m not handicapped. You are the lifeblood of the community. Sorry if my selfishness pisses you off, but I actually don’t give a rats arse about you and anyway it’s actually the government that is to blame. You’re lucky I don’t park in your driveway. Keep working, despite everything I do to inconvenience you, and get stuffed.”

Have I missed anything?

Nup,
I don’t think you missed a thing. Am I breaking any laws? No.
If you call it selfish well BAD LUCK. Looks like it will be toe to toe at the next loading zone if you feel that strongly about it!!
See you on the road scag.

Sandman 10:02 am 12 Jul 12

LSWCHP said :

Now there is some truly outstanding addled gibberish!!

If I understand correctly, the message is something like this…

“I choose of my own free will to drive a certain type of vehicle, and pay extra rego as a result of my choice. Therefore I can behave like a complete tool and park wherever I like without regard for others, even though I acknowledge that it’s like parking in handicapped spaces when I’m not handicapped. You are the lifeblood of the community. Sorry if my selfishness pisses you off, but I actually don’t give a rats arse about you and anyway it’s actually the government that is to blame. You’re lucky I don’t park in your driveway. Keep working, despite everything I do to inconvenience you, and get stuffed.”

Have I missed anything?

Nope, summed that up quite well.

I too drive a ute registered as a GCV. Plus I have a van registered as a GCV. Thirdly, I also have a medium sized truck that’s incapable of fitting into most car parks. Even though I pay the extra rego on the ute and van they only get parked in loading zones if I am in the act of loading or unloading heavy objects (this doesn’t include things like subway sandwiches or a cordless drill and a tape measure) that would otherwise be inconvenient to unload from a normal car park.
If driving the truck I try to avoid having to run errands that require taking up a loading zone for no real loading reason. Occasionally (maybe once a month) there will be a need to park in a loading zone purely because that is the only space within a reasonable distance large enough to fit a truck. Most of the time it’s a 4 or 5 minute errand but there’s usually a decent line up of electricians vans, sports utes, station wagons and cars with a driver sitting in them taking up any and all available spots simply to avoid putting 50cents in the meter. More often than not I find myself abandoning these quick errands and going a significant distance home to get the motorbike instead.

KB1971 9:02 am 12 Jul 12

hermanmunster1 said :

el said :

EvanJames said :

I think that even a goods-carrying vehicle like a ute or van still needs to have some kind of ID issued by the ACT gov’t saying they are licensed to use loading zones.

No, this is not correct. ‘Loading zone permits’ are for non-commercial vehicles (regular cars).

norman1985 said :

ute drivers and 4wds severly annoy me.. i drive a truck and need those loading zones all over canberra to be able to do my job and i come across so many darn cars in them, especially utes who i see “loading lunch” into thier vehicle..damn selfish people
i cant believe people can be so inconsiderate, they dont think of the poor workers who have a big truck to park, who need access to shops to do thier work, who have to do several laps just to find a park, and if they cant find one have to risk getting an $80 parking fine, which most of the time they personally have to pay for, yes a footpath isnt a loading zone but sometimes they have no choice, do you see the work they do? its a little hard sometimes to park a block away transporting goods..

…however, it always makes me day when i see a car in a loading zone with a parking ticket =) karma sometimes gets them

This really gives me the sh!ts.
Have a look at your ACT Rego sticker, if it has printed GCV (goods carrying vehicle) in the Fee Code window, you can legally park in timed loading zones. If it has PCV (passenger carrying vehicle) in the Fee Code window then no you cannot unless the vehicle is legally displaying a loading zone permit available to registered business from ACT Gov.
I own a 4WD Ute and I park in loading zones all around Canberra. If there are spare parks close by yes I will use them, but if there are not bad luck loading zone it is.
When I am paying $1272.30c for 12months rego this entitles me to use them & I will make the most of the convenience!! I understand your anger at non-authorised vehicles using them it is like using disabled parks when not authorised.
I reckon truckies are the backbone / life blood of OZ, apologies if I make your job that little bit harder but do not get the shi#s with authorised vehicles, blame the ACT Gov. for not providing adequate spaces. You are lucky I do not park in your driveway!
Keep on trucking Rubber Ducky!!!

If you have no need to park in a loading zone except for “cos I can” then why do it?

Exactly the sort of selfishness that Norman was talking about.

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