12 January 2024

Should e-bike and e-scooter charging be banned in apartments to manage fire risk?

| Ian Bushnell
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E-bikes are becoming a popular form of transport, but fears persist about their batteries. Photo: Switched On Cycles.

A NSW proposal to ban owners of electric bikes or scooters from charging their batteries inside their apartments because of the fears they are a fire risk would be hard to enforce, according to an ACT strata manager.

But a Canberra e-bike business said using quality products properly was the best way to minimise any risk of fire.

The Owners Corporation Network (OCN), which represents apartment owners, has drafted a model by-law to manage e-bikes and e-scooters in response to a number of fires sparked by lithium-ion batteries.

The by-law would also ban residents from storing cheaper imported models or modified or damaged e-bikes on the property.

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Vantage Strata’s Chris Miller said any reasonable suggestion from an owners corporation to mitigate the risk of fire should be considered, but the challenge would be in administration.

“It’s going to be very difficult to police if it becomes prohibited,” he said

Any rule to modify behaviour must be accompanied by education so that people understand why it was introduced.

“When coupled with really good education, and when driven by a committee that places a great deal of importance on community activation and engagement, then they can be successful,” Mr Miller said.

“This is fairly new territory. The information and advice are changing at a rapid pace and there is a lot of misinformation. And it’s a little bit scary.”

Mr Miller said fire safety in general needed to be given more attention and better education, not just regarding lithium-ion batteries.

Owner of Switched On Cycles in O’Connor Simone Annis said the proposed ban was not the best way to reduce the risks of battery fires in apartments, given that most fires result from cheap, low-quality products and user error.

Chris Miller from Vantage Strata

Vantage Strata’s Chris Miller: education is the key. Photo: Liv Cameron.

Ms Annis said her home business stored 90 lithium batteries at any one time, charging them during the day.

“I’ve been doing that for 16 years without any risk of fire,” she said.

“Admittedly, we don’t charge overnight and we’re always around when they’re charging.

“From our experience, if you’re using good quality cells from a reputable dealer, they’re well looked after, charged with the correct charger in a well-ventilated area and not left on charge for weeks, all the kinds of things you do to mitigate risk, there’s no issue.”

Ms Annis said the problem of cheap, low-quality, or even illegal products, often bought online, was an ongoing problem.

Switched On Cycles had to prove to the regulating authority that the bikes they sold were safe and met a certain standard, including the battery and the charger.

“If it’s too cheap, bad quality battery cells is one way manufacturers can save money,” she said.

Buying a replacement battery or charger that was not compatible with the original set-up was also a problem.

Ms Annis said that rather than banning indoor charging, it would be better to clean up the market and educate people to use and maintain the products correctly.

She said e-bike batteries weren’t the only ones used in households, saying every second person had a power tool.

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Proposals such as this could deter people from taking up an e-bike, which was a concern.

“An e-bike is a good alternative to driving in a lot of situations and a good alternative for people who can’t ride a normal bike,” Ms Annis said.

“However, I think there’s probably more danger falling off a bike than there is of your battery exploding or causing fires, but like any kind of electrical product, we need to manage it well.”

There have been battery fires in Canberra, but these have been related to e-scooters, including two storage centre blazes in 2021 and one at a food delivery service just before Christmas.

Last year, ACT Fire and Rescue attended more than 20 incidents involving lithium-ion batteries, including from power tools.

Lithium-ion batteries were implicated in the Boxing Day blaze at the Hume recycling centre in 2022.

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devils_advocate12:07 am 23 Jan 24

Lmao at all the comments

If EVs are so safe why do class B buildings now need an EV special hazards report to be signed off by the fire brigade, and tens of thousands of dollars in additional fire separation and mechanical ventilation?

@devils_advocate
LMAO at your comment.

Still got a mobile phone, devils_advocate? Charge it at home do you?
https://www.fire.nsw.gov.au/incident.php?record=recgjOeyDEkQCfGJY

Scott Anthony3:14 pm 13 Jan 24

e-bikes great in winter, or the rain or when grocery shopping or picking up the kids or going further than a few kilometers….. like at school maybe for kids…!!

Elle Cehcker7:48 pm 12 Jan 24

Yes and also ban EVs from garages.

EV fire are very rare … 4 incidents in Australia since 2010 … there is a 60 times greater chance of an ICE vehicle fire and 120 times chance of a hybrid fire.

Scott Anthony3:15 pm 13 Jan 24

Fake news dude, you need to keep up with the EV fire situation and stop spreading myths.

@Scott Anthony
Fake news … spreading myths. Really, Scott?

Robz was quoting statistics from EV Safe for the period from 2010 to June 2023, when EV FireSafe recorded 393 verified passenger EV battery fires across the world, of which only four were in Australia, as per this drive.com.au article – https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/how-many-electric-cars-have-caught-fire-australia/. Of the 4 fires, one was linked to arson and the other three vehicles were parked in structures that burned down.

Now, that number has blown out by 50% to 6, as a result of two further fires in September 2023. Perhaps look at this video from EV Firesafe and you can start breathing again – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJBlMujlp8

I think the next thing Vantage Strata will want is for phones not to be charged. After all, phones get hot when they’re on charge! Then there’s the need to charge the battery operated drill. Or the lights we have on our dining table.

On top of that, there’s the thorny issue of EV charging — in our building the policy (from Vantage Strata advice) is that there will be no advance until insurance issues and other implications are settled with electricity providers. So no EVs for anyone living in an apartment.

Well that does make sense doesn’t it. EV charging and not having insurance should a fire occur would mean the owners are up for the cost of repairs not just the excess.

Can I suggest that your first problem is your choice of Strata Manager.
We were the first apartment in Canberra to retrofit EV charges on common property (no help from Vantage although they did want to take the credit). Refer article in the RiotAct.
Since we installed ours there are a few more hurdles to get over but there is absolutely no reason not to install charges.
In fact all future developments in Canberra are mandated to include EV charging infrastructure.

ChrisinTurner1:30 pm 12 Jan 24

These are the same batteries you have in laptops. Will they be banned too?

I have an e-bike that is made in Europe, including the batteries. I only charge it every two weeks and only an hour or so before I ride it. If you leave the battery on charge for days at a time, this is where it is risky. At the very least, there should be a safety cut off included that detects that a battery is getting hot, then should turn the charging off. In relation to power tools, I use Ryobi. The charger has a built in fan. Once charged, it turns off completely. An older charger stays on – no longer charges, but lights still showing. Hence, I only use the one with built in fan now. More importantly, I put a reminder on in my phone

Any reasonably quality ebike or PEV will have charging cutoffs like that – the problem is people buying terrible aliexpress spec electronics.

GrumpyGrandpa12:23 pm 12 Jan 24

The thing to remember is that the Owners Corporation Network is giving advice to individual Owners Corporations about safety aspects for of ALL apartment owners and tenants in those complexes.

That’s why, they are saying that things like scooters should be stored and recharged on individual balconies and NOT in common areas.

I am a bit concerned about comments like:
“However, I think there’s probably more danger falling off a bike than there is of your battery exploding or causing fires, but like any kind of electrical product, we need to manage it well.”
It is a true statement, but risk of an event happening and the consequences, are different things. If John fall off his bike and breaks his leg, that only impacts John. If John’s e-bike explodes and causes a fire in a common area of an apartment block, the consequences of that fire impacts upon every resident through possible escalation of that fire and the release of toxic fumes.

I think this advice from the Owners Corporation Network is very sound, particularly given the number of battery- related fires that we are seeing.
The next question is safety when it comes to EVs in apartment blocks. Thankfully, EV fires are extremely rare; less common than a fire in an ICE car. Although once again, the consequences are significant.

Capital Retro12:53 pm 12 Jan 24

What happens if you lean your e-scooter against flammable panels on your apartment balcony and it catches fire?

Elle Cehcker7:56 pm 12 Jan 24

For EV fires being extremely rare, that’s been dubunked. It was conducted by EV Firesafe but they didn’t include petroleum based cars sitting in garages by themselves. Statistically, EVs are much more likely to combust as they can enter into thermal runaway and cause devastating fires to infrastructure.

Where was this supposed debunking published?

Insurance and other data, worldwide, shows higher fire risk for ICE both by vehicle and by vehicle-km so your attempt to fiddle the data or impugn sources fails.

ICE vehicles are more likely to combust including while stationary, or have you forgotten that 3.4 million ICE Kia owners were advised to park them outside for safety just last year, for example?

Can I suggest that you undertake some research.
Statistically ICE vehicle fires are 60 times more likely than EV fires and Hybrids are 120 times more likely (but no one said a word about hybrids yea).
The FACTS are that EV fires are more difficult to extinguish. However since 2010 there have only been 4 EV fires recorded and 1 on those was proven to be arson.

And arson is becoming more prevalent. Also, setting an ordinary fuelled vehicle alight can then become more of a problem if an e vehicle next to it then catches fire.

Elle Cehcker6:48 pm 14 Jan 24

4 ev recorded fires since 2010 is hilariously out of touch and plain false….you realise US fire trucks now have specialized fire blankets for cars because it happens so often. BTW there were about 4 ev fires in Australia just in the last few Weeks including a concrete mixer 👋

@Elle Cehcker
“BTW there were about (????) 4 ev fires in Australia just in the last few Weeks including a concrete mixer”
Really? Do you have facts to support this “claim”? Oh and btw, a post on your Insta feed (or whatever other social media you use) doesn’t constitute fact.

I’ve found several articles about the electric concrete truck which truck which caught fire in NOVEMBER last year – your definition of “the last few Weeks” is rubbery to say the least. So is that what you mean by “about” – there was 1 ev fire and that’s “almost … kinda like … nearly … about 4”?

So, tell us, do you have a mobile phone? Do you charge it? Aren’t you concerned about the potential for the mobile phone to catch fire while it’s charging?

The only thing that’s hilarious is the puerile attempts from people like you to perpetuate myths on a subject about which you obviously know nothing. Do some real research and then come back with your factual findings.

@teddy bear
Nope … many ev fires are extinguished in the same way as other vehicle fires. You can learn more from this video by a firefigher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJBlMujlp8

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