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Smoking Ban in ACT Schools

By GnT 26 June 2007 34

Education Minister Andrew Barr has announced that ACT schools are finally going to catch up with the rest of Australia and ban smoking on school grounds.

You may be thinking, like me, isn’t smoking already banned in schools? Smoking is currently banned in ACT government primary and high schools, but some colleges allow smoking by both teachers and students over 18.

What amazes me more than the fact they have taken so long to get with the program is the reaction by the other political parties. Liberal Vicki Dunne says some teachers need to smoke to reduce stress, and Greens Deb Foskey asks who will police the ban (um … teachers?).

About time I say.

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Maelinar 12:12 pm 13 Jul 07

Then ping them for an offence against the school rules.

School rules have been written down since I was a tot, they go along the lines of:

No Biting
No Scratching
No Smoking
No Kicking
etc.

Getting children to follow directions is a quality of a good teacher, whether or not acknowledgement is needed via disciplinary measures.

If a child does not know where the playing boundaries are – how on earth do you expect a child to play within the boundaries ?

Therefore the answer is simple; if smoking is banned at schools, an appropriate punishment should be awared to people who elect to contravene that rule, regardless of if they are legally allowed to do that activity or not.

May I suggest a 5 min presentation at the next school hall on the merits of smoking might be a good avenue to dispense peer justice ?

Thumper 11:10 am 13 Jul 07

No arguement from me about that.

That’s one of the problem teachers encounter these days in that they are, or have become, surrogate parents to some degree.

nyssa76 11:05 am 13 Jul 07

Thumper, yeah I said that – we can only take them off the students.

However, the principal issue is the parents. We all know that they either 1) get mum and dad to buy them or 2) get an older sibling or friend to buy them.

Either way, it’s the irresponsibility of the “mature adult” that leads to cigarettes being in schools in the first place (minus the over 18 teachers who buy them).

Thumper 8:13 am 13 Jul 07

Actually Nyss, it is the school’s responsibility to enforce no smoking on grounds by students. It is a rule like any other school rule.

Well, it was when I was teaching. We’d just confiscate them, or slowly and cruelly crush them in front of the students eyes.

Oh the joy! 😉

nyssa76 9:12 pm 12 Jul 07

Mael, teachers don’t “allow” smoking.

We are not their parents and the most we can do is take the smoke off them.

PARENTAL responsibility should dictate that 1) they don’t condone it and 2) don’t buy the smokes for them.

It’s not the school’s responsibility to police this. If it becomes so, then I for one want it counted as my 19th hour (see Teachers EBA for that one).

Maelinar 4:13 pm 11 Jul 07

I’m frankly surprised that the current left wing neo fem lez nazo pinko dribblers that currently occupy valuable oxygen space actually allow smoking in the first place, especially when they are so happy to produce a ‘human meat shield’ during curriculum hours over issues like school closures or any other leftie protestation that needs to occur.

Then again, it’s all about being non-confrontational I suppose (unless the meat shield is in place)…

Mr Evil 1:57 pm 11 Jul 07

I think all kids at school should be forced to smoke, take heroin, eat trans-fatty foods, have sex, get a piercing, snort coke – it’ll make them more well rounded and interesting individuals in later life.

Mr_Shab 12:59 pm 11 Jul 07

Thank you bonfire. Bile where bile is due.

Absent Diane 12:57 pm 11 Jul 07

I was once convinced that I had infiltrated a major political party but it turned out I hadn’t; so all was good and I relaxed for a bit.

The above statement may or may not contain a) truth b)lies c) ridiculum

bonfire 12:49 pm 11 Jul 07

kramer – do you seriously suggest that on a school ground there is no where for me to have a durry which will impact upon your sensitive nostrils ?

if they can whisk away vapours from the crapper, a few tendrils of cool refreshing burnt laramie shouldnt be a problem.

bonfire 12:47 pm 11 Jul 07

youre right mr shab (for once) which is why i plan to infiltrate a major party and run for office…

vote 1 bonfire!

then i shall implement a beasleyesque ‘rollback’ agenda.

Kramer 12:20 pm 11 Jul 07

“i like the irony of the govt that introduced human rights legislation, methodically strips those rights away one by one.”

What about my right to not inhale other people’s filthy smoke?

Mr_Shab 11:41 am 11 Jul 07

Oh come on bonfire – do you really think there’s any votes for the opposition in allowing college students to smoke on civil liberties grounds?

It’s not a “jackboot leftist” agenda forcing this issue (keen as you are to lump everything you disagree with on them). It’s just the usual bunch of hand-wringing “think of the children!” health nazis. Such types come from political persuasions of all stripes.

bonfire 9:59 am 11 Jul 07

i like the irony of the govt that introduced human rights legislation, methodically strips those rights away one by one.

the right to liberty and to go about your personal business without interference is ignored by this dictate.

if you have a lunch break or any other break (which are mandated by OH&S legislation) then what you do in that time is your choice.

this jackbooting bunch of leftists need to go.

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