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Smoking worse than shooting up smack?

By johnboy 19 May 2011 29

The Liberals’ Jeremy Hanson is aghast and agape following comments by the Chiefly Katy Gallagher about her priorities at the Monaro Marriott:

In extraordinary comments from the Health Minister of the ACT, the new Chief Minister, Katy Gallagher, has labelled smoking as a greater health problem than the use or prevalence of illicit drugs in the prison, Shadow Health Minister Jeremy Hanson said today.

This morning Katy Gallagher told the Health Estimates committee hearing;

‘I should say that out of the Burnet report and there is a lot of interest around illicit drugs. The most concerning thing for me around that report was the level of smoking, and if there is a health issue in the jail it is smoking, and for me it’s how to we deal with that, how do we encourage people to stop smoking.

Colonel Hanson wants to know what you think about this.

What’s Your opinion?


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dvaey 7:20 am 22 May 11

Maybe a key sentence there is: “if there is a health issue in the jail it is smoking,”

Id guess the number of smokers in there would be 50x higher than the number of heroin users, in which case that smoking is much more of a health issue.

Hospitals dont allow smoking, but they do allow opiate injection…

breda 1:55 am 22 May 11

Talking about ‘pure’ or ‘impure’ in the way that it has been discussed in this thread is just nonsense in terms of chemistry. It is more reflective of views about morality.

Something can be 95% ‘pure’, but if the remaining 5% is Drano, that’s not much help. If it is 50% ‘pure’ and the rest is something innocuous, that is something else.

“Pure” is a romantic junkie term.

The Frots 7:27 pm 21 May 11

Cheap said :

The Frots said :

Cheap said :

Heroin can be made to be just as pure as the aspirin or paracetamol you buy at the chemist. I am not talking about street heroin, I am talking about the heroin that is currently being used for medicinal purposes overseas.

Heroin is derived from morphine (hence the name diacetylmorphine) so if you are going to argue with me about the purity of medical grade morphine then you probably also believe in chemtrails, fake moon landings and that the carbon tax is a jewish plot to drive up the price of diamonds.

There really is no such thing as 100% pure heroin – it is simply impossible. Your correct with your naming of it – and there are many stages of extraction. Medical grade heroin just cannot be 100% pure becuase of the extraction process. Heroin for such use is grown in a lot of places (some of which surprise you!) but eh extraction issue remains.

Now, while I can’t speak with authority about fake moon landings, diamond conspiracies and the like, I am interested in your views on the ‘grassy knoll’…………………..what do you think??

The poppies are mostly grown in Tasmania aren’t they? I couldn’t find any sources one way or the other with regards to 100% purity, but I’m sure it would be so close to 100% as to be indistinguishable (but let’s not get into an argument about 0.99999…= 1)

Sounds good (it was a good exercise though – I had to hit the books again from Uni as well as some quick calls to a couple of collegues!). Gets the brain going!

Take care.

Cheap 6:39 pm 21 May 11

The Frots said :

Cheap said :

Heroin can be made to be just as pure as the aspirin or paracetamol you buy at the chemist. I am not talking about street heroin, I am talking about the heroin that is currently being used for medicinal purposes overseas.

Heroin is derived from morphine (hence the name diacetylmorphine) so if you are going to argue with me about the purity of medical grade morphine then you probably also believe in chemtrails, fake moon landings and that the carbon tax is a jewish plot to drive up the price of diamonds.

There really is no such thing as 100% pure heroin – it is simply impossible. Your correct with your naming of it – and there are many stages of extraction. Medical grade heroin just cannot be 100% pure becuase of the extraction process. Heroin for such use is grown in a lot of places (some of which surprise you!) but eh extraction issue remains.

Now, while I can’t speak with authority about fake moon landings, diamond conspiracies and the like, I am interested in your views on the ‘grassy knoll’…………………..what do you think??

The poppies are mostly grown in Tasmania aren’t they? I couldn’t find any sources one way or the other with regards to 100% purity, but I’m sure it would be so close to 100% as to be indistinguishable (but let’s not get into an argument about 0.99999…= 1)

The Frots 3:50 pm 21 May 11

Cheap said :

Heroin can be made to be just as pure as the aspirin or paracetamol you buy at the chemist. I am not talking about street heroin, I am talking about the heroin that is currently being used for medicinal purposes overseas.

Heroin is derived from morphine (hence the name diacetylmorphine) so if you are going to argue with me about the purity of medical grade morphine then you probably also believe in chemtrails, fake moon landings and that the carbon tax is a jewish plot to drive up the price of diamonds.

There really is no such thing as 100% pure heroin – it is simply impossible. Your correct with your naming of it – and there are many stages of extraction. Medical grade heroin just cannot be 100% pure becuase of the extraction process. Heroin for such use is grown in a lot of places (some of which surprise you!) but eh extraction issue remains.

Now, while I can’t speak with authority about fake moon landings, diamond conspiracies and the like, I am interested in your views on the ‘grassy knoll’…………………..what do you think??

BimboGeek 12:28 pm 21 May 11

and providing clean substance and apparatus is one step of a holistic approach to treatment that would of course also include behaviour modification training, controlled withdrawal, stress management and general education

Cheap 11:09 am 21 May 11

Heroin can be made to be just as pure as the aspirin or paracetamol you buy at the chemist. I am not talking about street heroin, I am talking about the heroin that is currently being used for medicinal purposes overseas.

Heroin is derived from morphine (hence the name diacetylmorphine) so if you are going to argue with me about the purity of medical grade morphine then you probably also believe in chemtrails, fake moon landings and that the carbon tax is a jewish plot to drive up the price of diamonds.

neanderthalsis said :

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Not sure that people can suffer effects of passive heroin injection.

I’m not sure you can stab a prison guard with a Hep/AIDS infected cigarette butt.

You obviously haven’t seen MacGyver.

neanderthalsis 11:29 am 20 May 11

colourful sydney racing identity said :

Not sure that people can suffer effects of passive heroin injection.

I’m not sure you can stab a prison guard with a Hep/AIDS infected cigarette butt.

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