Chisholm Double Murder

No, but the one I thought easiest for you to comprehend

God bless

I’m here every night and twice on Saturdays

vg said :

monomania said :

vg said :

but, all the same, my current employ (and who knows where that might be) does give me the opportunity to feel smart, useful, important and humble…..all at the same time.

Humble because it’s only the job that prevents you from being a stupid useless loser, vg?

Yeah, that would be it if it were true but fortunately for me, and you, I am neither of the 3 things you describe. I mean if I was stupid, useless and a loser I would forget to use commas in their correct place…….hang on a sec.

Better to let people think you’re stupid rather than go to print and prove it

A crushing rejoinder to my comment on your puffery. Is that the best that came to mind. Punctuation?

Sorry for my tardy arrival; usually when I see a good fight, I like to reserve a place…in the middle….and let out all reserves.

monomania said :

vg said :

but, all the same, my current employ (and who knows where that might be) does give me the opportunity to feel smart, useful, important and humble…..all at the same time.

Humble because it’s only the job that prevents you from being a stupid useless loser, vg?

Yeah, that would be it if it were true but fortunately for me, and you, I am neither of the 3 things you describe. I mean if I was stupid, useless and a loser I would forget to use commas in their correct place…….hang on a sec.

Better to let people think you’re stupid rather than go to print and prove it

monomania said :

vg said :

but, all the same, my current employ (and who knows where that might be) does give me the opportunity to feel smart, useful, important and humble…..all at the same time.

Humble because it’s only the job that prevents you from being a stupid useless loser, vg?

Yeah, that would be it if it were true but fortunately for me, and you, I am neither of the 3 things you describe. I mean if I was a stupid, useless and a loser I would forget to use commas in their correct place…….hang on a sec.

Better to let people think you’re stupid rather than go to print and prove it

Is it me, or is it getting hot in here ……

vg said :

but, all the same, my current employ (and who knows where that might be) does give me the opportunity to feel smart, useful, important and humble…..all at the same time.

Humble because it’s only the job that prevents you from being a stupid useless loser, vg?

Yeah, its only fair that you stick to the:

“That’s all from me on this.”

Agreed, sorry JB. Vg, I’m not going to bother responding to you anymore, as there is a severe risk of moderation if I do.

OK children, I’ve had enough of your bickering.

If it doesn’t end now you’re both going to the corner.

What were you right about, just out of idle curiosity?

And I never play speculation cops (that clanging could be the penny dropping)

I was right about some things, mate.

Why don’t you go play speculation cops somewhere else? Away from decent debate preferably.

DMD

Very, very amateur attempt at ascertaining my employment status, but, all the same, my current employ (and who knows where that might be) does give me the opportunity to feel smart, useful, important and humble…..all at the same time.

There is no Rebels PR in this matter and, if there was, you could tell if they were lying because their lips would be moving

But, like I say, there’s no way on God’s green earth I could possibly know more about this than you though, is there….? Surely not?

Don’t be surprised with the ‘I told you so’ later on.

Sorry if I interrupted your Kumbuya session somewhere, but the only contributions you seem to want from me are the ones where I tell you exactly what you want to know to justify your opinions, not reality. Either way you ain’t gonna get it but suffice to say that the speculation and assumption on this thread will be made to look, shall we say, silly

I should add, sorry to double-post, that on the news they were talking to some children who saw the man dying on the front lawn after getting home from school.

I said it was likely that it involved bikies. In fact, it involved a senior member of the Rebels. You of all people should be open to possibility that a senior bikie being gunned down in the midst of a nationwide bikie war, which the rebels have been involved in too, does lend itself to the possibility of this being a related event.

I’m also surprised that your so quick to believe the Rebel’s PR, considering your previous attitudes towards them.

I honestly think this is some sort of self-importance game you’ve started playing since you left the AFP. You want to feel useful, you want to feel smart, you want to feel better than everyone else. I’m going to do the nicest thing I can do under the circumstances to tell you that your behavior really doesn’t help. Nobody likes the guy that sits there and tells everyone they’re wrong, without offering any insight as to why. If you want people to benefit from your experience as a police officer and your general life experience, try making positive contributions – explain why you disagree, don’t try to be funny (you’re not when you’re like that), tell us about your previous experiences. Right now, you just seem like a five-year old, sorry. And don’t take that as an insult, I’m telling you that this is how you’re behaving because I think you could be a positive contributor were you to address this.

That’s all from me on this.

Deadmandrinking said :

Berraboy, If VG has information on this particular case that has not been released, one would assume it has been suppressed. He would be committing a serious offense by talking about it he is doing and if so he should be subjected to serious disciplinary action.

I’m just interested in the point at where I have spoken about information that hasn’t been released. I mean feel free to show me.

All I have said is that the initial speculation regarding this event has come to nought. Anything else surrounding the subject matter, including your ‘sage’ advice, is just puffery. There’s no danger whatsoever of any inappropriate information being disclosed, no matter how amateurly you try to elicit it

Hams said :

I have been lurking here for a while. I am sorry if I have missed this earlier, but what is DMD’s problem with the AFP? Is it all Police or just the AFP he hates?

Maybe he and lurkers don’t get on…?

I wish they still had butlers around.

No matter how much this pains me to say – I agree with you DMD.

VG be careful you don’t cross the line.

Berraboy, If VG has information on this particular case that has not been released, one would assume it has been suppressed. He would be committing a serious offense by talking about it he is doing and if so he should be subjected to serious disciplinary action.

Hey DMD, I may be out of line (if so sorry) but I’m thinking vg doesn’t need to speculate like the rest of us as he probably has first hand knowledge.

I’m speculating on public information. That’s how people debate. I don’t know why you’re here.

Surely I couldn’t know more about the incident than you DMD……….surely?

Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with the Rebels.

I mean, the rebels said that, so it must be true.

How is the bikie angle going.

Guess what, it isn’t.

Mark + 10,000 to me for the jumping to conclusions post

Copy.

Maybe

Ok thanks

Jesus I just realised how I set myself up for a flaming up there. It’s nothing criminal, she’s a nice old lady who had something very nasty happen to her. So don’t even think about it people

Post a new story?

JB. I would like to ask if anybody has had any experience with a particular Lawyer in Canberra (it’s for my mum so relax)…

What’s the appropriate way to do this

Sorry to shut you down Hams, but this isn’t the space to be discussing DMD’s personality.

I don’t know where that space is either.

I have been lurking here for a while. I am sorry if I have missed this earlier, but what is DMD’s problem with the AFP? Is it all Police or just the AFP he hates?

Starscream @ work said :

There has not been any mention of a woman, just three men and a lovers triangle.

I’m not saying this to make a gay joke, or be funny, or whatever…

But seriously, just because it seems unlikely that it was a gay love triangle, that doesn’t mean that it definitely wasn’t. So far, they have yet to prove anything as to whether it was or not.

Hence 1%ers and all that drivel. Hunter S Thompson wrote a famous book about it a billion years ago (it’s a bit of a wank though)

I think anybody over 10 is too old for dress ups but that’s just me

123qwe – I believe they coined the term themselves

Why is the word ‘outlaw’ tacked onto the term OMCG? The only place a MCG is outlawed is Sth Aust, yes/no?

Are the drugs costing too much for you DMD. If they were legal you could be off your head as often as you like.

As for double murders apparently had nothing to do with them being bikies etc and was all about the love. Police can’t proactively target murder, people will do it anyway.

Both actually MWF, now back on topic people.

Spam Box said :

I was an Admin for a Bulletin Board years ago. To get around this very thing we created a special side-forum called ‘The Cage'(based on a bar in Darwin). All threads that descended into flames were thrown in there. It was “no holds barred” type thing for 7days. After seven days the flame thread would be closed/deleted(hosed out)

It worked because the Admin didn’t need to do anything except hose it out every now and then and anybody who went in knew exactly what to expect.

Was quite fun actually 😀

I was a mod of a board with a similar sub forum. Ours was called “The Gutter”. Worked well until the board “owner” went all weird arse and started deleting posts just because he could. He even deleted his own posts from the “super secret admin and mods only” bit of the board because he didn’t want the punters to know what he really thought of them. I think it’s called covering one’s arse 😉

It might work on TRA though, because, AFAIK, JB is an employee and not the owner of the place.

Could we call it, the “Charny”?

Deadmandrinking said :

Also, JB, a flame thread might not be a bad idea. Maybe there could be somewhere people could take personal arguments where no-one else has to shift through them.

I was an Admin for a Bulletin Board years ago. To get around this very thing we created a special side-forum called ‘The Cage'(based on a bar in Darwin). All threads that descended into flames were thrown in there. It was “no holds barred” type thing for 7days. After seven days the flame thread would be closed/deleted(hosed out)

It worked because the Admin didn’t need to do anything except hose it out every now and then and anybody who went in knew exactly what to expect.

Was quite fun actually 😀

I would prefer a law against OMCG’s as bikie is a pretty vague term

Ulyses MC are considered, for legal purposes, bikies, but not OMCG’s… would they then be outlawed ?

Deadmandrinking said :

Well, I was going to ask…what does everyone think of Corbell rejecting anti-bikie laws here? I kind of agree with them, as they don’t really tackle the crime that goes on. But the liberals reckon we could become a bikie Oasis. Argue, you muppets.

im with corbell that we dont need them let alone the fact they dont address the crimes themselves, all they do is infringe on their rights as individuals, the majority of the law’s are based around the gangs not meeting/forming, the two first steps of dictatorships are muzzling the media followed by the banning of public groups and communities,

How many bikies does it take to change a light bulb?

About 40-50. One to come into your house and tell you they want a slice of your new light bulb, the rest to mince around like school-yard boys and pretend that they are respected and/or feared by others.

Deadmandrinking said :

VG, do you ever have anything useful to add to a thread other than that we’re all wrong? If not, that’s very, very AFP sounding.

Hey, I got a joke. How many AFP officers does it take to change a light bulb? Six. Two to stand there and wait for backup, three to search the room for drugs they can rip off and one to inform the owner of light that there’s nothing they can do about it.

Tool.

#192 is an LOL for me, Danman.

How many conservative Riot-Acter’s does it take to change a lightbulb?

1. The stand there and tell everybody that the old lightbulb’s fine.

have they named the guys who were shot as yet?

Well, I was going to ask…what does everyone think of Corbell rejecting anti-bikie laws here? I kind of agree with them, as they don’t really tackle the crime that goes on. But the liberals reckon we could become a bikie Oasis. Argue, you muppets.

Also, JB, a flame thread might not be a bad idea. Maybe there could be somewhere people could take personal arguments where no-one else has to shift through them.

ACT: Man charged over double shooting ‘at risk’, says lawyer
By Bonny Symons-Brown

CANBERRA, March 25 AAP – A man charged with two counts of murder over a double shooting in Canberra should be kept in protective custody, his lawyer says.

Russell Field, 20, of Chisholm in Canberra’s south, allegedly shot dead two men aged 48 and 57 at a residence in his local neighbourhood on Tuesday afternoon.

One of the deceased is believed to be senior Rebels Motorcycle Club member Richard Roberts. The Canberra Times identified the second man as Mr Roberts’ associate Gregory Carrigan.

ACT police have not released the victims’ names.

Emergency services were called to the Couchman Crescent address at about 3.10pm (AEDT) after receiving reports a man had suffered a gunshot wound.

Upon arrival, the ACT ambulance service declared one man dead in front of the home and another man dead in the backyard.

A firearm was recovered from the scene, police said.

Despite heightened security and road closures around the ACT Magistrates Court on Wednesday, Field did not appear and was represented by lawyer Ben Aulich.

Mr Aulich did not seek bail for Field and it was formally refused by Magistrate John Burns.

Outside court, Mr Aulich said he had advised Field to lodge a request for protective custody with the territory’s corrective services.

“There are serious allegations against certain people, and there is some fear, I suppose, for his safety,” he told reporters.

“I’ve asked him to say nothing, to be careful, to put in a slip to protect himself.

“I think he will need to be in protective custody.”

The alleged murders were initially thought to be an explosion of violence between outlaw bikie gangs, but a long-time Rebels Motorcycle Club member suggested they resulted from a bitter “love triangle”.

“It was over a girl from what I believe. It’s a love triangle. (Mr Roberts) has gone out with this girl, the ex-boyfriend has come back,” the man, who did not wish to be named, told AAP.

Commander of the NSW Police Gang Squad Mal Lanyon said there appeared to be no connection between bikie feuds in Sydney – which led to the murder of a Hells Angels associate at the city’s domestic airport on Sunday – and the deaths in Canberra.

“At this stage there is no apparent link between the incident down there and the matters we are currently looking at in Sydney,” Superintendent Lanyon told the Fairfax Radio Network.

ACT Police Minister Simon Corbell also said there was no evident link between the two shooting deaths and bikie gang feuds, adding bikie activity in Canberra was limited.

“There is nothing to suggest that this is in any way related to some sort of broader bikie gang-related criminal activity or some sort of turf war between bikie gangs,” he told ABC Radio.

Mr Aulich said Field was “holding up reasonably well” and would fight the charges against him.

“He seems quite calm. He’s had a lot of things thrown at him at the moment,” he said.

Mr Burns adjourned the matter to April 15 in the same court.

DMD, in jest, but a retort to your joke none the less.

How many DMD’s does it take to change a lightbulb?

One, They just hold the lightulb and expect the world to revolve around them.

vg – I fully concur.

You and I may soon be busking for our biscuits.

Deadmandrinking said :

Agreed. Didn’t see the post before. But you are completely wrong, Spidey 🙂

Let it go DMD ….. far out, like a child getting the last word. Start another thread so I can tell you just how wrong you are …!!!!!

OK, that’s enough, both of you.

VG, do you ever have anything useful to add to a thread other than that we’re all wrong? If not, that’s very, very AFP sounding.

Hey, I got a joke. How many AFP officers does it take to change a light bulb? Six. Two to stand there and wait for backup, three to search the room for drugs they can rip off and one to inform the owner of light that there’s nothing they can do about it.

Never have so many contenders for a new Olympic event such as Jumping to Conclusions come to the fore.

Brilliant

Agreed. Didn’t see the post before. But you are completely wrong, Spidey 🙂

johnboy said :

OK all, let’s agree to disagree on drug prohibition and not have this debate (again) here.

Fair enough. Agreed.

Spidey-dog, you’re wrong there. Marijuana and opium were legally used for a long time prior to them being outlawed. Also, to assume that if something hasn’t been done it’s not a good idea is a little naive.

JB, I agree. Sure, there’d be problems post legalization. Sure, criminal organizations would still exist – although they’d have a good bulk of profit removed and would probably have to move on to something else. The bikies are a separate example though, since they actually have a lifestyle besides the drugs. In fact, one of the major problems now within the 1%’er world is clubs being taken over by criminals who don’t ride harleys who are pretty much tearing the clubs apart.

Jim Jones said :

Alcohol is a drug – WTF are you on about?

FFS – semantics. you know what I mean.

OK all, let’s agree to disagree on drug prohibition and not have this debate (again) here.

Alcohol is a drug – WTF are you on about?

My post was aimed at post 177 (oh, and DMD I suppose)

You reckon….. From where I sit alcohol, is a massive problem whether legalised or not …. but it’s in the too hard basket. Besides in my opinion, drugs is by far, more dangerous. Alcohol had been legal for a bloody long then they decide to outlaw it ….. not gonna work. Drugs on the other hand has not and has been illegal more than it hasn’t. Were talking a different kettle of fish here. Alcohol was so much more ingrained and accepted in society, drugs haven’t.

Apples and oranges to a degree.

Legalise drugs, solve the GFC! The tax take would solve the problem of the deficit, anyway.

The same arguments made against legalising alcohol Spideydog.

It doesn’t make the world perfect but boy did it solve a lot of the problems.

DMD I will always disagree with you on your legalise drugs and all the problems will disappear.

1. If it was that easy, someone would have done it by now and been a hero in the publics eyes. Drugs problems have been solved at long last ….. WRONG

2. I believe that if we did as you say in this regard it would lead to a “arms race” so to speak. Drug lords, dealers, bikies (or whoever) would not simply lay down and go “well, the government now dishes out cheap drugs to the community, we will have to do something else” As with any business, they will find a way to get their customers back by making more effective highs (or other incentives) which in turn could make even worse drugs, worse addictions and worse side-effects/overdoses.

3. With cheaper more abundant drugs, there will be more of it out in the community meaning that our children have greater access to them and if it is sanctioned by the government, the message will be perceived as “these can’t be all that bad if the government is giving it out !!!” THIS WILL CREATE MORE ADDICTS.

Besides, NO government in the world would sanction and become a “drug dealer” to the community. I cannot EVER see drugs being legalised.

i rest my case on the crack me up 😀

I saw a duck in Couchman Cres once.

hey know you made a comment about new members but still thought i would join,

i was really up on the school issue living in gilmore, you made comments about how far chisholm is away, gilmore primary is alot closer with alot who walk to gimore primary from that street, but it was also one of the highschool students who found the body with and older lady. goes to show the timing with the end of school.

some nice opionions here too, but some of you just crack me up.

#171…yes, el. Go home now.

If people want to lead a 1%’er life, that’s fine with me. I just detest the killing and general violence and I think that were drugs legal, this and Bikies in general would not be a problem (well, they’d still be rough, I assume, but I doubt so trigger-happy).

Priceless. I’m almost speechless.

I was at a meeting last night with two people who live a few houses down from the house where the murders happened. They got a call about it during the meeting, and were told by police not to come back to the street and to stay in a hotel for the night.

Deana, I gotta say, that amount of money being thrown around does lend itself to the possibility of drugs being involved. But, I don’t know and I don’t care what it was about. It’s sad that he died. I won’t subscribe to the neanderthal ‘live by sword, die by sword’ BS. This thread was about the shooting, anyway, someone else brought up Jaime for whatever unknown reason.

I said this shooting is what you get for the war on drugs and I stand by it. Even if it was a love triangle, the involvement of guns and the willingness to kill indicates a culture of violence that usually comes from being involved in the drug business. If people want to lead a 1%’er life, that’s fine with me. I just detest the killing and general violence and I think that were drugs legal, this and Bikies in general would not be a problem (well, they’d still be rough, I assume, but I doubt so trigger-happy).

Spidey-dog, take the Melbourne gangland war for example. When the killings there began to occur in highly public places, with huge risks of bystanders, they started to actually arrest suspects and used other measures, such as banning known organized crime figures from the Crown Casino, for example. Post the airport bashing, police have raided a senior Bandidos member’s home and have begun talks with senior motorcycle club members. This shooting can only encourage those kinds of approaches by police.

Finally, you’re idiots. Some of you. ‘There’s no woman involved.’ You don’t have to have a woman at your house to love her, you know. But of course there had to be gay jokes. You’re so tough and l33t, insulting bikies on a forum. Go home and masturbate in the mirror, you’ve earned it.

PBO said :

jessieduck said :

Sheesh- Canberra is in the middle of a freakin Underbelly 3- A Tale of Three Wannabies

I wanna be “Mr Charnwood”.

all yours.

Wait, did the pizza guy see Ferris pass out at 31 Flavours?

Deana said :

actually I have known Jamie for quite a few years as my best mate is 1st cousin with him. so i do know quiet alot with what happened with jamie’s death as yes the police have talked to the parents of jamie

A guy I know is friends with a guy who’s cousin works for Domino’s and a guy once ordered a Pizza and another guy said it was Jamie. I once ordered a similar Pizza. It could have been me. This store is also near a School at was just after knock off time. What is happening to Canberra eh?

LOL!:
(comment from the CT website linked at #161)

I understand that, following the recent ACT precedent, 57 shots may be required to demonstrate intent.
Posted by Stephen on 25/03/2009 11:20:29 AM

are you cute dexi ?

I have to say, as an ex-pat it’s a bit creepy to see what’s gone on in the Berra over the last few days.

Here is an update:
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/protection-sought-for-shooting-accused/1468753.aspx

They have named the suspect as Russell Field, 20, of Chisholm

actually I have known Jamie for quite a few years as my best mate is 1st cousin with him. so i do know quiet alot with what happened with jamie’s death as yes the police have talked to the parents of jamie

Nice work guys. Quality posts. Way to go.

johnboy said :

Dexi and starscream, you’re both on extremely thin ice already. Suggest you cool it.

sorry buddy i will lay off her now. i just find her trolls incredibly lame is all.

Deana said :

realityskin not really jamie was never a dealer he may be classed as one but he never ever dealt drugs money and drugs are 2 different things

That is a lie. I know for a fact he did. And large amounts.

Gotta love it when ppl join on here just to put there own spin on what happened. Deana LMFAO, $30k, bwa ha ha ha, may have been over money but certainly not that amount.
But top job on trying to dramatise.

dexi said :

I think I’ve made that clear. Poor taste is making jokes about people who are dead but not buried. I will give you another one. Poor taste is making jokes about a highly respected Rebel life member. In fact it would be foolish to make any comment about a Rebel that was in anyway derogatory or otherwise.

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Dexi

Why? Are the Pebbles going to get somebody in to do mischief?

Deana, you seem to know more about that guy than anyone.

How can you not be a dealer but classed as one? How can you not owe money and die from it?

Have you spoken to the Police or are you just talking crap?

The latter perhaps?

Funny, I thought this was about the shooting in Chisholm not the bashing Wanniassa.

Deana said :

realityskin not really jamie was never a dealer he may be classed as one but he never ever dealt drugs money and drugs are 2 different things

So, he’s a money launderer? That’s much better.

realityskin not really jamie was never a dealer he may be classed as one but he never ever dealt drugs money and drugs are 2 different things

Deana said :

dmd – Jamie did not get bashed over drugs it was money. The guy thought it was Jamie that stole off him and gave him until 8pm friday to give 30 grand back. Jamie did not steal it so he died from it.

Easy mistake to make, I mean, thirty grand goes missing, just kill whoever you thought did it. Not worries then. I mean, you wouldn’t need to ensure you got the right bloke, an approximation would do. Best way of making certain you get your money returned; killing people who may or may not have done it…

On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

Deana said :

dmd – Jamie did not get bashed over drugs it was money. The guy thought it was Jamie that stole off him and gave him until 8pm friday to give 30 grand back. Jamie did not steal it so he died from it.

same diff really

Spideydog said :

Ingeegoodbee said :

I wouldn’t discount the gay angle on this. The majority of Rebels MC members are quite used to sucking a bit of cock and bending over – they’re skills learnt in prison because they’re not smart enough to set up a racket.

WOW …. I did not see this one coming ???!! I take it you don’t like the Rebels ???

Haven’t you heard “He’s a Rebel, and he’ll never, never be any good”?

dmd – Jamie did not get bashed over drugs it was money. The guy thought it was Jamie that stole off him and gave him until 8pm friday to give 30 grand back. Jamie did not steal it so he died from it.

Awesome. +1 at post #143

Ingeegoodbee said :

I wouldn’t discount the gay angle on this. The majority of Rebels MC members are quite used to sucking a bit of cock and bending over – they’re skills learnt in prison because they’re not smart enough to set up a racket.

haha gold!

And I’m the one that is in moderation !!

Ingeegoodbee said :

I wouldn’t discount the gay angle on this. The majority of Rebels MC members are quite used to sucking a bit of cock and bending over – they’re skills learnt in prison because they’re not smart enough to set up a racket.

WOW …. I did not see this one coming ???!! I take it you don’t like the Rebels ???

I love this website! Where else would you see a statement like post#141?

Jazz said :

Re #97 i concur. What IS different is how the media portray it.

Exactly.

I wouldn’t discount the gay angle on this. The majority of Rebels MC members are quite used to sucking a bit of cock and bending over – they’re skills learnt in prison because they’re not smart enough to set up a racket.

dexi said :

Poor taste is making jokes about a highly respected Rebel life member. In fact it would be foolish to make any comment about a Rebel that was in anyway derogatory or otherwise.

Ooh. Internet threats.

I’d quiver in my boots if I weren’t so unimpressed by the concept.

I think I’ve made that clear. Poor taste is making jokes about people who are dead but not buried. I will give you another one. Poor taste is making jokes about a highly respected Rebel life member. In fact it would be foolish to make any comment about a Rebel that was in anyway derogatory or otherwise.

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Dexi

Dexi and starscream, you’re both on extremely thin ice already. Suggest you cool it.

What makes you the authority on what is considered poor taste and what is not, dexi?

Really Jim you are so cute. Poor taste is joking about people on a public forum who are not buried yet. Why do you have such difficulty with the concept. DJK go down the courthouse and ask one of the guys with tatts your questions. They will be happy to answer you.

Jim Jones said :

dexi said :

I would have to say djk your comment is in poor taste if not offensive.

You find homosexuality offensive dexi?

That’s poor taste.

😀

No i was thinking the same thing. There has not been any mention of a woman, just three men and a lovers triabgle.

quite humerous actually.

dexi said :

I would have to say djk your comment is in poor taste if not offensive.

You find homosexuality offensive dexi?

That’s poor taste.

I would have to say djk your comment is in poor taste if not offensive.

There’s a fair amount of information out there already, and not a lot of ACT Coverage.

No ACT Media are giving some of the more easy-to-discern details, probably so the courts have a chance at drawing on a pool of potential jurors.

If I get called I’ll answer honestly that I -have- read about details on interstate media, though.

a question: Legally, can I post onto an ACT-hosted server run by an ACT-managed business, a link to and interstate media sources which give almost sufficient identifying information to form an idea of what may have occured? Or am I then going to be in a whole world of suffering at the hands of the DPP?

aelliso said :

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25239079-29277,00.html
“A Rebels Motorcycle Club life member said club ties had nothing to do with the shooting, which occurred at the hands of a jilted ex-lover.” Sounds like a cover up to me…

Wait, so it was a gay love triangle? Were they all bears or something??

Any idea why the court house was blocked off?

Timberwolf65 said :

UPDATE: ABC radio news on 666 is reporting two men have been shot dead on Couchman Crescent in Chisholm.

6-6-6 the Number of the Beast
Hell and fire was spawned to be released!

Woe to you Oh earth and sea
For the Devil sends the beast with wrath
Because he knows the time is short ….

Now I’m really feeling the old school.

On topic. If some of what has been reported is true, there is nowhere safe for the person as JB says at #121

First Rule misspris, Quiet.

Skidbladnir said :

In life, he had no name. In death, a member of Project Mayhem had a name.
His name is Robert Paulson.

(real names not released for legal or burly biker reasons, I’m guessing)

The Fight Club?

Re #97 i concur. The Police have the same response regardless of where a murder occur. What IS different is how the media portray it.

In life, he had no name. In death, a member of Project Mayhem had a name.
His name is Robert Paulson.

(real names not released for legal or burly biker reasons, I’m guessing)

Ah, it’s dribble, I was wondering what it was but yes, you’re quite right, it’s dribble

Does he have a name yet?

Keeping the suspect alive long enough to face the court.

Were all the Police blocking off the area around the city Police Station and Court house this morning something to with the shooting?

a News Limited story claiming it was related to a love triangle, and not motorcycle gangs.

According to today’s Daily Telegraph the woman at the centre of it all was Pauline Hanson.

They’ve got pics to prove it, apparently.

dexi said :

DMD We will always have crime and outlaws. What the war on drugs has given us is an enemy. An enemy that can be hated, abused and punished. An enemy that people feel are less and in some cases deserve to die. An enemy that needs to be wiped out to protect the fabric of society. An enemy that have no rights and deserve no respect or protection.

That enemy is the drug user. That enemy could be your child, your friend, your parents, your neighbour.

Until you make peace with your enemy the war continues. People die.

What dribble….

AngryHenry said :

Americanberran said :

Hey, as entertaining as it is speculating about the three recent ‘tragedies’ on the southside, it won’t be nearly half as much fun as watching WWIII on the big-screen TV at Canberra Stadium…almost as tragic as the Brumbies recent performance against the lowly Lions.

What the hell are you talking about?

I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again.

Shut the fcuk up already!

You’re an idiot!

lol, lol, lol.

UPDATE: ABC radio news on 666 is reporting two men have been shot dead on Couchman Crescent in Chisholm.

6-6-6 the Number of the Beast
Hell and fire was spawned to be released!

Americanberran said :

Hey, as entertaining as it is speculating about the three recent ‘tragedies’ on the southside, it won’t be nearly half as much fun as watching WWIII on the big-screen TV at Canberra Stadium…almost as tragic as the Brumbies recent performance against the lowly Lions.

What the hell are you talking about?

I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again.

Shut the fcuk up already!

You’re an idiot!

I wonder what today will bring…I feel like running to the hills, running for my life!

Hey, as entertaining as it is speculating about the three recent ‘tragedies’ on the southside, it won’t be nearly half as much fun as watching WWIII on the big-screen TV at Canberra Stadium…almost as tragic as the Brumbies recent performance against the lowly Lions.

Timberwolf FTW – old school tallica

DMD We will always have crime and outlaws. What the war on drugs has given us is an enemy. An enemy that can be hated, abused and punished. An enemy that people feel are less and in some cases deserve to die. An enemy that needs to be wiped out to protect the fabric of society. An enemy that have no rights and deserve no respect or protection.

That enemy is the drug user. That enemy could be your child, your friend, your parents, your neighbour.

Until you make peace with your enemy the war continues. People die.

There is indeed a clubhouse in Wanniassa – next to the recently opened childcare centre

What evidence do you have that the body wasn’t shot on the front lawn, VG? It was found there, so at this point and time, it is more likely to assume it was shot there.

Assumptions are dangerous, especially it comes to conducting investigations. I don’t know what happened, but I’d be more inclined to wait and see. Let the cops do their job.

“If you don’t believe this to be the case, well so be it, I don’t give a damn if you want to live in the conspiracy theorist mind set.”

Actually I would describe it as the ‘absolutely no idea’ mind set

fhakk said :

The one in Geelong St? I thought that had closed as well. A Tavern in Tuggeranong might be of interest, however.

Still there ! It’s very impressive

^^^ This story seemed all over the place to me… I felt kind of confused while I read it and had to go over it a couple of times. So, the two deceased were not actually the residents?

“The two dead men are believed to have gone to 24 Couchman Cres shortly after 3pm to confront the man later detained by police.”

Where did the gun come from and if the deceased brought the gun to the house, where does self defense come into play? Also, if the gun belonged to the resident, will he get off on self defense with a petty gun charge?

Then this?
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25239079-29277,00.html
“A Rebels Motorcycle Club life member said club ties had nothing to do with the shooting, which occurred at the hands of a jilted ex-lover.” Sounds like a cover up to me…

I LIVE A FEW DOORS AWAY’…….

I live a few doors away from where it all happened, They’re saying its a bikie war, Iv lived here for a while now, and the whole area around here is very quiet, its a very nice area, there’s nice homes around here, BUT’ Iv never seen any Harleys or Motor Bikes near the house where the 2 people still lay dead at this moment, not even any more than a one car maybe, as far as iv known, theirs always been a nice quiet family living there, The house is a nice looking house, there has never been any indictation to me of any disturbances there, or anywhere around here for that matter’…..Its strange………This is a nice quiet street……As i speak there are still a lot of police & forensics here……..I was home this afternoon when it happened, and my mum was out the front watering the garden when one of the people was shot outside on the front lawn…….Its pretty hectic hey’………………….
……………………….
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Looks like the guy has been charged with murder –

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25239052-5001021,00.html

I was under the impression there was a club house in Wanniassa?

realityskin said :

fhakk said :

Their South-side clubhouse is nearby as well, apparently.

Used to be in Fisher, but now the only one is their Fyshwick warehouse club house.

The one in Geelong St? I thought that had closed as well. A Tavern in Tuggeranong might be of interest, however.

Once again, we see the ugly face of bingo

🙂

martyo said :

it’s official – biker war in Canberra

http://www.smh.com.au/national/bikie-killed-in-double-murder–fears-gang-war-has-hit-canberra-20090324-98wo.html

earlier concerns confirmed imho -” A witness, 11, chanced upon the horrific scene on her way home from school.”

And ten minutes later we have this from the same news site :http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-national/canberra-shootings-not-gang-related-20090325-994v.html

Just proves that nothing is “official’ and the media have no idea at all. They will speculate with a story that best fits with whipping up hysteria until the real story comes out……..

BerraBoy68 said :

LOL. 8/10

You lost marks for all upper case text whereas really good rants include random upper and lower case letters.

WeLL Y cAN gET FUc COs…. 😉

Oh DMD ….. If you think that any serious crime is treated any differently than another by the police, you are deluding yourself. I can tell you for a fact that any murder, regardless of who it was perpetrated against, or whether it was in public or not, is giving exactly the same attention, resources and investigation.

If you don’t believe this to be the case, well so be it, I don’t give a damn if you want to live in the conspiracy theorist mind set.

Pro-active stance with murders ….. you mean post a police officer in every persons house ???

What is your magic solution ? Pro-active preventative measures that deals with the situations that drive people into that sort of crime….. Please state your program that would include pro-active and preventative measures.

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

it’s official – biker war in Canberra

http://www.smh.com.au/national/bikie-killed-in-double-murder–fears-gang-war-has-hit-canberra-20090324-98wo.html

earlier concerns confirmed imho -” A witness, 11, chanced upon the horrific scene on her way home from school.”

LOL. 8/10

You lost marks for all upper case text whereas really good rants include random upper and lower case letters.

i FINK YOU ALL PRICKS FOR NOT BEING NICE TO THIS GUYS WAS A GUY YA KNOW AND WERE’RE ALL GUYS EXCEPT FOR THE GIRLS BUT HE WAS STILL A COOL GUY WHO WUDDA DONE ANYTHING FOR ANYBODY EVEN REDCROSS WICH IS COOL COS HE HATED BLACK AND ASIANS BUT HE WASNT A RACIST IT WAS JUST COS IF YOU KNEW HIM YOU WOULD KNOW THAT 3 AND A HALF OF HIS KIDS WERE ASIAN AND THE OTHE 2 WERE BLACK, ALL FOUR OF EM

YOUR ALL PRICKS FOR SPEAKING LIKE THIS ABOUT SOME GUY I HARDLY KNEW WELL HE LIVED UPTHE STREET AND MY MUM SAID SHE HEARD IN CHURCH THAT HE WAS OK SO YOU CAN ALL GET STUFFED.

Did I cover it all?

2 Hours, I could find my key’s in less time

You’ll find, Spideydog, that when the violent activities of the criminal world start to surface in highly public places at highly public times, the police often start to get up off their arse and do something about it.

For example, if a man was beaten to death with poles in an alley somewhere in King’s Cross at night, do you think there’d be the outcry and statements made from the PM that has resulted from the same thing happening in an airport during the day? Once it’s out in the open, the police and the pollies have no option but to discuss it and come up with solutions to these sorts of activities.

In this case, a man has been arrested (although it’s not certain whether he is responsible, or solely if he is). If the killer has been arrested, then it’s a job well done on the police’s part, but it still doesn’t stop this incident can adding fuel to the fire and encourage a pro-active stance in dealing with this sort of crime.

Personally, I’d like a pro-active stance in regards to preventative measures, dealing with the situations that drive people into this sort of crime in the first place, but that will never happen.

Niiiice Metallicanism ….. ??!

“War without end
No remorse No repent
We don’t care what it meant
Another day Another death
Another sorrow Another breath”

I still don’t see the real relevance here ….. What are we going to do ?? Outlaw murders in public places ?? Educate criminals into committing their acts in a less dangerous place ??

Yes it is concerning, but if we were able to do something about where it was committed, then surely we would be able to stop the act in the first place …. the point is irrelevant (I think)

I will also point out that assumption is the mother of all @$$%%^^&

What evidence do you have that the body wasn’t shot on the front lawn, VG? It was found there, so at this point and time, it is more likely to assume it was shot there.

If the school is two streets away, you can assume people would be passing through there near the afternoon, more so than at night, for instance. This means there was more of a risk that innocent bystanders could become involved. The fact that such an act took place in an area where there was more of a risk of innocent bystanders, including the young, is what heightens the concern.

DMD. If this did occur at 3pm, the kiddies wouldn’t even be out of class yet.

You may need to bring your concerns up with the offender when/if they are brought before a court. I am sure they will be eager to hear your thoughts in regard to their poor location and timing of their crime and best that they commit murder at a more appropriate time/location.

I agree that that your point is a concern (any use of a firearm is a concern), but really irrelevant.

Look at what actually happened.

The body was found on the front lawn, was it shot there?

Define ‘near a school’? Its quite relative, particularly at Chisholm Primary School is 1.31km from Couchman Crescent. Short of aiming a Barrett .50cal snipers rifle I think you will find that all my assertions re the kids safety as per the above are correct.

If there was cause for alarm regarding school kiddies suffice to say I would be light years ahead of you, but clearly I prefer the pragmatic rather than the hysterical

I know Berraboy, but who-knows-who is really really off-topic in this case.

Deadmandrinking said :

^Can’t you do this at a pub Berraboy?

I can but I’d probably get shot the way things are going. I’m just carrying on conversation started elswhere, sorry if that offends anybody. But not every post in every thread is always OT, even by you DMD:)

It appeared, Watson, that you thought that mistakes couldn’t happen. I sincerely hope you understand that they can, considering you were or are paid to carry them.

How long would it have taken for the police to respond to reports of gunshots? The body was found on the front lawn too, which would have heightened the risk of bystanders.

The fact is Vg, there is a difference between gunning someone down in an alley after dark and doing it in a suburban street near a school during the day. Neither are acceptable, but the latter causes a great deal more concern.

I find it difficult to believe someone who has served as a police officer would have trouble understanding that.

Its a fairly traumatic experience for anyone. Bringing children and a school into this equation is a hysterical extrapolation.

Based on news reports a body was discovered about 3. When it was shot is the bailiwick of the investigators. Kids were no more or less a chance of getting shot in that area today than any other day. It wasn’t a drive by shooting with a hail of rounds sprayed from an AK.

“Guns are dangerous things, mistakes with them can be fatal.”

No shit Sherlock

Thankyou Vg. At around 3pm, if I remember correctly, school finishes. Some kids walk home from school. Guns are dangerous things, mistakes with them can be fatal. Also, seeing someone get shot is usually a traumatic experience for a young-un.

Deadmandrinking said :

vg said :

Terrible isn’t it. I mean I farted at home today and I’m across the road from a school.

It has nothing to do with the school

So you think it doesn’t matter that bullets are flying around and knocking people off close to where children congregate?

OK Einstein I will.

I will say this. I am concerned where a firearm is involved in anything in this town. The fact that this happened 2 streets from a school is largely immaterial. It was probably also 2 streets from a shopping centre, 2 streets from a house where lots of kids live, 2 streets from where a terminally ill person lives, or within 2 streets of probably hundreds of people residences. The incident clearly wasn’t directed at the school or the kids within.

Please explain exactly how bullets were ‘flying around close to where children congregate’. It seems as though the bullets may well have been reasonably aimed. Don’t be hysterical about it. In reality the children at school today would have been in no greater danger of being hit by a bullet than any other time while at school, unless the ‘flying bullets’ managed to make their way around a few corners, down a few streets and few a through walls (assuming they lost no kinetic energy in the process).

Or would you like a further explanation of Ballistics for Dummies?

Have another drink.

I agree that it was too close to a school but I also agree that it had nothing to do with the school.

It was unfortunate it was in close proximity but not intentional.

If that were the case then I would be worried.

The Conway book is a great read.

Caulky lying in the bushes.

LOL

It doesn’t offend me, I just think it wastes space. Nobody else cares.

Why don’t you answer my post re: the school – that’s what these comments are here for.

Nosey said :

Can’t u2 use your work email 2 sort out the who’s who of the AFP on RA.

Just kidding.

I am racking my brain trying to think of an ex detective that’s in his 50’s and bald.

Nope, there is too many.

Don’t use this site when I’m at work

BerraBoy68 said :

vg said :

The resume isn’t precisely correct, as I’m very good mates with the guy who was the lead investigator for the Conway murder, but yeah, I know the guy. A gentleman

That he is. We don’t really talk work when we get together but I knew the basics. I got his position on the Conway murder stuff from the book that was written about it. Probably the only True Crime book specific to Canberra. Just wanted to ensure you know it wasn’t NL that gave me this obvioulsy dodgy information.

Actually, the mother of my son’s best buddy (they’re only 6) also works as an instructor at the college and also knows NL quite well. She’s slim, long blonde hair – also a nice lady.

Canberra’s too small.

I know her too.

Sorry DMD if this offends you, I know how delicate you are

Can’t u2 use your work email 2 sort out the who’s who of the AFP on RA.

Just kidding.

I am racking my brain trying to think of an ex detective that’s in his 50’s and bald.

Nope, there is too many.

DMD you wouldn’t know a serious issue if it bit you an the ass. You can do what you like on this board, it ain’t mine. Don’t be scared when people disagree with you or, as happens more often than not, you are made to look a little silly.

If you wish to discuss try re-visiting the topic on my post that will shortly be ‘un-modded’

vg said :

The resume isn’t precisely correct, as I’m very good mates with the guy who was the lead investigator for the Conway murder, but yeah, I know the guy. A gentleman

That he is. We don’t really talk work when we get together but I knew the basics. I got his position on the Conway murder stuff from the book that was written about it. Probably the only True Crime book specific to Canberra. Just wanted to ensure you know it wasn’t NL that gave me this obvioulsy dodgy information.

Actually, the mother of my son’s best buddy (they’re only 6) also works as an instructor at the college and also knows NL quite well. She’s slim, long blonde hair – also a nice lady. Canberra’s too small.

vg said :

Terrible isn’t it. I mean I farted at home today and I’m across the road from a school.

It has nothing to do with the school

So you think it doesn’t matter that bullets are flying around and knocking people off close to where children congregate?

I’m well aware of what social interaction is, VG. I do it away from the keyboard, in social settings – not in threads where people are trying to discuss serious issues. But we’re not allowed to do that.

Hael, that is pretty disturbing. Someone else was saying the club-house wasn’t far either? Is it close to the primary school?

Terrible isn’t it. I mean I farted at home today and I’m across the road from a school.

It has nothing to do with the school

BerraBoy68 said :

Hey VG, onthe topic of knowing people

LMFAO, yep, that’s what it’s all about. Most important that we get ourselves into a pecking order.

I think it’s so frightening that this shooting happened at 3pm two streets up from the primary school!!

DMD its called social interaction. A subject probably foreign to you I know, but let the adults do it. You may learn something

The resume isn’t precisely correct, as I’m very good mates with the guy who was the lead investigator for the Conway murder, but yeah, I know the guy. A gentleman

^Can’t you do this at a pub Berraboy?

I mean, we were being policed just then by VG for ‘jumping to conclusions’, now you seem to want to turn this thread into a social get-together.

vg said :

BerraBoy68 said :

Hey VG, onthe topic of knowing people (from an earlier conversation), are you uniform or a Det? I’ve a family member who’s a Det. ex-homicide and now at the college. His initials are NL. Wondering if you’d know him?

I know him, if its the NL I think it is

He’d be about late 50’s, bald ex-witness protection program and also headed up the Ricky Conway murder (all public knowledge BTW). He also just became a dad again. His parter is my cousin. Just thought I’d ask…

kobez_outlaw said :

Top 3 ghetto’s in the world
1) South central- LA
2) Queensbridge New York City
3) North Tuggeranong- Canberra.
Why did I have to move from Torrens to Wanniassa 🙁

Been cycling through Port Moresby or the Favelas in Rio lately? It’s such a breeze.

Spend an hour in West Sydney then go home to Tuggers. You’ll feel a lot safer.

Top 3 ghetto’s in the world
1) South central- LA
2) Queensbridge New York City
3) North Tuggeranong- Canberra.
Why did I have to move from Torrens to Wanniassa 🙁

Hams said :

I can imagine the media circus at the Court tomorrow will be the best Canberra has seen in a while. Do you think we might be special enough to make the front page of the Tele?

Is this who I think it is?

BerraBoy68 said :

Hey VG, onthe topic of knowing people (from an earlier conversation), are you uniform or a Det? I’ve a family member who’s a Det. ex-homicide and now at the college. His initials are NL. Wondering if you’d know him?

I know him, if its the NL I think it is

Hey VG, onthe topic of knowing people (from an earlier conversation), are you uniform or a Det? I’ve a family member who’s a Det. ex-homicide and now at the college. His initials are NL. Wondering if you’d know him?

I can imagine the media circus at the Court tomorrow will be the best Canberra has seen in a while. Do you think we might be special enough to make the front page of the Tele?

Well, sure the media gets stuff wrong, but some ARE quoting sources in this case.

vg said :

**News Flash**

The organising committee of the 2012 Olympics has just announced that jumping to conclusions will be included on the track and field program for the London games. This thread will be used as the Australian qualifier for the event. Some strong showings thus far

LOL.

Deadmandrinking said :

Shush VG. The Police tend to be the first to know and the last to tell anyone anything. That’s why we have the media.

LOFLMAO

Shush VG. The Police tend to be the first to know and the last to tell anyone anything. That’s why we have the media.

**News Flash**

The organising committee of the 2012 Olympics has just announced that jumping to conclusions will be included on the track and field program for the London games. This thread will be used as the Australian qualifier for the event. Some strong showings thus far

The profit motive for all suppliers would be removed, be they Bikies, people of oriental/middle eastern/east european/or any other appearence. The millions of dollars involved would evaporate, cutting the legs out from under the drug organisations.

Please, can we not give a trial a serious go, without the wowser element becoming involved?

fhakk said :

Their South-side clubhouse is nearby as well, apparently.

Used to be in Fisher, but now the only one is their Fyshwick warehouse club house.

fhakk said :

There is a bike/tattoo show this Saturday at Serbian Cultural Club Mawson; the Milperra Massacare happened at a bike/car parts swap meet at the Vikings Hotel after several months of fighting between two bikie gangs. Anyone see a similarity here?

I was thinking of going to the tattoo show thing, just for a laugh, as I was driving home at around 3pm this arvo, then I thought better of it because of ^^^^ (I’m old enough to remember Milperra).

Who knows what this is in Canberra atm. It remains to be seen. There is no doubt that it is frightening.

I will not be going to the bike/tattoo show, something doesn’t smell right to me.

fhakk said :

Rebels – that’s the first thing I thought of. They haven’t had much of a public presence in the current bikie war in Sydney so far. It’s been Notorious, Hells Angels, Banditos and Comancheros. Wonder why they’re involved now?

Their South-side clubhouse is nearby as well, apparently.

Where is it?

Not to mention, Cranky, that organizations such as these outlaw motorcycle clubs would not be making huge profits, hence lowering the stakes in holding territory.

I guess my point is that if drugs were available at small, if any, cost, the crime committed to pay the current price would not have been committed.

They are criminals because of the commission of crime to feed the habit. No crime = no requirement for CRIME rehab.

Legalised supply by attentive staff could well identify those with a mental/social problem, and result in non-judgemental treatment.

Is’nt it worth a try?

i just received word from someone that lives on crouchman and they have been told it was a murder-suicide, man and woman?

Anyone want to swap a couple of boxes of shotgun shells for a machete and a couple of butterfly knives?

Yeah and rehabilitation has worked with prisoners … (current rehab techniques anyways)

I will trade you prisoner rehab (that doesn’t work) for de-criminalisation of drugs for a trial period and see how we go ??

Deal …. hand shake on that ??!!

Most information discussed on Riot-act comes from Riot-act. It seems to be the general consensus that JP dealt drugs, but he was a nice guy, or that he deserved it for just that.

I was referring to the Bikie war at first. In fact I didn’t mention Jamie in the first comment, you did. You decided to throw in the Jamie incident, possibly to give your criticism some validity.

Explain to me how a bikie related incident in the midst of a nationwide dispute over drug-areas does not involve drugs…

I’m with DMD.

Criminalising has resulted in crime.

I can appreciate that mental/social problems result from drug use, but removal of the criminal effects would result in enormous resources being available for remedial efforts, instead of the massive expenditure on law enforcement attempting to control this trade.

I am appalled at the Salvation Army’s total rejection of a trial, and see it as the Army bending to the wishes of a certain little ex PM, who in turn bent to the Septics.

An effort is required, with the sceptics overridden for the period of the trial. It is patently obvious that criminalisation aint working.

Deadmandrinking said :

And that Jamie guy got bashed over a drug dispute, didn’t he?

Hmmmm…..

How do you know that ??? Or is it what you heard on riotact ?

Deadmandrinking said :

I just hope it doesn’t come to innocent bystanders being killed, a la the Milperra Massacre.

There is a bike/tattoo show this Saturday at Serbian Cultural Club Mawson; the Milperra Massacare happened at a bike/car parts swap meet at the Vikings Hotel after several months of fighting between two bikie gangs. Anyone see a similarity here?

Rebels – that’s the first thing I thought of. They haven’t had much of a public presence in the current bikie war in Sydney so far. It’s been Notorious, Hells Angels, Banditos and Comancheros. Wonder why they’re involved now?

Their South-side clubhouse is nearby as well, apparently.

possibly not naive, but these people think they are above the law, and there are no consequences for them, and they can get away with anything, including murder.

The people who do this kind of thing are probably more concerned about the consequences coming from their fellow lowlifes then anything that the ACT court system might dish out.

Geez, and you guys reckon Queanbeyan is bad 😉

Uh Spideydog, the bikie wars or whatever are based around control of King’s Cross. They’re not fighting over the right to sell hot-dogs there.

And that Jamie guy got bashed over a drug dispute, didn’t he?

Hmmmm…..

Deadmandrinking said :

This is what you get for your ‘Wars on Drugs’

That is the silliest comment I have seen come from you DMD ….. You have no knowledge of either of the incidents and you are trying to advocate your pro-drugs stance, using these incidents …

Legalise drugs is the answer ….. NOT.

‘canberra, the new adelaide – murder capital of the southern hemisphere’

we’ve a way to go for that – c’mon rioters, get to it!

Kos…uh, where do you think you live? I sincerely doubt there are gunshots ringing throughout Kambah often. Maybe you’ve been hearing cars backfiring?

There is violence in Canberra, being a city, albeit small. It’s not really different from anywhere else though. What’s happening in the bikie world isn’t a local problem either, it’s nationwide. I just hope it doesn’t come to innocent bystanders being killed, a la the Milperra Massacre.

This is what you get for your ‘Wars on Drugs’

grunge_hippy said :

from the abc news site…

A man’s body was found in the front yard of a house in Couchman Crescent in the southern suburb of Chisholm just after 3:00pm. About two hours later, police found another man’s body in the back yard of the same house.

2 hours until they found the other body!?!?! huh?! why so long? what were they doing?

thats Canberra police for you! How they will cope with the investigations of several murders of the past six months will be very interesting, and yet we still dont charge them with murder!!

They probably wanted to get a warrant before they went through the house or looked around to much as they wanted the investigation and evidence to be sweet for Court.

Smiling for all the flashy cameras?

possibly not naive, but these people think they are above the law, and there are no consequences for them, and they can get away with anything, including murder. I think the only mental problem they have is that they think this is normal.

from the abc news site…

A man’s body was found in the front yard of a house in Couchman Crescent in the southern suburb of Chisholm just after 3:00pm. About two hours later, police found another man’s body in the back yard of the same house.

2 hours until they found the other body!?!?! huh?! why so long? what were they doing?

Are we experiencing the result of too little attention and resources being directed to mental health, particularly breakdown as a result of drugs and alcohol?

Is the Hume Hilton being tasked to concentrate on inmates with mental problems? This centre (or its current BRC or NSW equivelent) would appear to be the only potential point of contact between probable mental patients, and clinical help.

Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that the (vast) majority of criminal activity is the result of mental illness?

I’m probably hopelessly naive.

Well they do say ignorance is bliss. 🙂

It doesnt matter what he has or hasnt done, nobody deserves to take someones life. Junkie or no Junkie, dealer or not!

Hams said :

3 Dead in a week. I knew the North side was better, but now I am sure.

Yeah, the north side is better at hiding their bodies so we don’t hear about it.

3 Dead in a week. I knew the North side was better, but now I am sure.

I wanna be “Mr Charnwood”.

I shotgun “Mr. Charnwood”!

(Not literally, of course…)

So much pain and death.

So pointless.

The “allegedly”-humans that do these sorts of things are terrorists, they should be treated accordingly.

kos said :

hetzjagd1 said :

Gobbo said :

What I do care about is this behaviour just shouldn’t occur here.

Come on folks. This is Canberra.

Need I say more?

Yes please. ‘This is Canberra’. What does that mean?

It means that the blue collar public servants don’t hear about the violence, so they live in a lovely cloud of ignorance.

Blue collar public servants? WTF?! Are there any more of those around and why pick on them at random? I’m sure ‘White’ collar public servants would have heard about the violence though.

hetzjagd1 said :

Gobbo said :

What I do care about is this behaviour just shouldn’t occur here.

Come on folks. This is Canberra.

Need I say more?

Yes please. ‘This is Canberra’. What does that mean?

It means that the blue collar public servants don’t hear about the violence, so they live in a lovely cloud of ignorance.

jessieduck said :

Sheesh- Canberra is in the middle of a freakin Underbelly 3- A Tale of Three Wannabies

I wanna be “Mr Charnwood”.

Gobbo said :

What I do care about is this behaviour just shouldn’t occur here.

Come on folks. This is Canberra.

Need I say more?

Yes please. ‘This is Canberra’. What does that mean?

Sheesh- Canberra is in the middle of a freakin Underbelly 3- A Tale of Three Wannabies

JB, that one source of yours is wrong. Unrelated matter

My judgement will wait

saraj said :

http://canberra.iprime.com.au/index.php/news/prime-news/man-shot-dead-at-chisholm,62361

apologies for a very prosaic comment – but is “ambos” actually a word?

it has a rather different meaning in a dictionary – http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ambo

now now! ant your jumping ahead in this thread 😉

I bet they had kids too, and “loved ones”, and are therefore demi-saints. Shame on everybody, we all suck etc.

What’s that? Three people dead in two days? Country town, hey? Beat that, Sydney Airport!

Pretty crap news all round really.

Pommy bastard said :

… let’s hope these scum continue to remove themselves from our presence.

Personally I don’t care if they are scum or saints. I don’t care if it was revenge or unrelated.

What I do care about is this behaviour just shouldn’t occur here.

Come on folks. This is Canberra.

Need I say more?

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25236363-29277,00.html

‘The Daily Telegraph reports police sources have confirmed the deaths are related to bikie gangs. But a police spokesman said the identity of the victims and any links to gangs was yet to be determined.’

Wow, good on iPrime for been local… that pic shows an American Ford Crown Victoria police car and police tape.
They couldn’t find a file photo of some Aussie cops? Yeah, real local.

Google Maps needs a new graphic pointer to indicate ‘Dead Body’.

http://canberra.iprime.com.au/index.php/news/prime-news/man-shot-dead-at-chisholm,62361

Channel 10’s ‘news’ is trying to put a ‘bikie’ spin on the story without having any real information whatsoever.

Heard some gunshots in Kambah this morning too, but that isn’t really out of the ordinary.

Its supposed to be two people dead, dunno what happened.

As long as no innocents get hurt, let’s hope these scum continue to remove themselves from our presence.