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Stateline on the local music scene

By johnboy 11 May 2009 54

[First filed: May 08, 2009 @ 20:51]

This one went to air tonight. Yours truly can be seen lurking in the background in a few shots.

It was a shame they didn’t mention a lot of other venues in Canberra supporting local music, particularly The Front, but also The Basement and Pot Belly. Also Stateline’s aversion to ever mentioning the Insatiable Banalities Podcast continues.

So really the same story they roll out every few years. I actually think the local music scene is stronger now than it’s been in the last decade, for all that it would be nice if musicians were paid more to play.

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qedbynature 8:26 pm 10 Dec 09

you have to say any publicity is good publicity…but as a few ppl have mentioned the story didn’t cover a lot of other possibilities. Maybe that’s a perennial problem with canberra and popular culture, given the sprawl of the place and the fact that even now there is not much of a centre of gravity anywhere, its difficult to see how gigs and venues can prosper outside of their own smallish fan base. With the talent around its a bloody shame really.

slack1 12:04 am 15 May 09

Stateline is, as usual, a bit narrow. The featured CMC thing was a good base for a story without doing too much research. There is some great indie-rock people as well as pretty good metal scene (which, BTW, has developed much since we used to try to do it in the 70s).
The blues is supported by a few venues across town (this shouldn’t have required much research to find). Some touring blues musos from Sydney commented to me that all the gigs in their newsletter seem to be in Canberra.
PS: I have a beard. Can I still join the CMC?

misspris 4:14 pm 12 May 09

Maybe it was a convenient excuse – who knows? At the end of the day I guess he can do whatever he wants with it since he owns it.

It’d be nice to think that the bands who played at The Green Room will find a similar venue around Canberra.

Tonka 11:48 am 12 May 09

Yeah maybe if we’d all worn cardigans and discussed Proust and Balzac over a quiet coopers instead of being who we are the Greenroom would still be open.

Damn you hindsight… damn you.

No offence meant to the quiet cooper drinking proust & Balzac discussing folkies.

Just having a bit of fun.

You guys keep on keeping on…

Good on ya for doing your own thing…

Jim Jones 11:44 am 12 May 09

Tonka said :

So the vandalism was caused by greenroom patrons?

Proof? Or are you happy to just slander myself and my friends without it?

Amazing how that at the time I spoke at length to most of the people involved upstairs/downstairs about the closure and not one of them ever mentioned vandalism…. ever.

But now… many months later there’s this notion that instead of watching bands upstairs we were all really out the back vandalising car yards. It’s funny that I don’t recall spending my nights out the back wrecking people’s property, but I do recall seeing some great bands, supporting local music and having a lot of fun.

It’s also funny how at the time, when money was being made from us, we were welcome guests and friends, but now apparently we’re vandals and a hassle.

Just goes to show eh?

You can support someone for years on end and this is the thanks we get.

Very nice. Very nice indeed.

+1

The whole ‘vandalism’ angle is remarkably tenuous and, to me, reads like a lame excuse for kicking a couple of businesses off a lease in the pursuit greater rental returns.

So, in essence, the Green Room doesn’t exist because of greed.

Nambucco Deliria 11:32 am 12 May 09

It must have been you and your mates, Tonka. The folk/acoustic/pop fans were too busy being ‘alternative’ in someones back garden, or teaching gorillas how to do gigs.

Tonka 11:14 am 12 May 09

So the vandalism was caused by greenroom patrons?

Proof? Or are you happy to just slander myself and my friends without it?

Amazing how that at the time I spoke at length to most of the people involved upstairs/downstairs about the closure and not one of them ever mentioned vandalism…. ever.

But now… many months later there’s this notion that instead of watching bands upstairs we were all really out the back vandalising car yards. It’s funny that I don’t recall spending my nights out the back wrecking people’s property, but I do recall seeing some great bands, supporting local music and having a lot of fun.

It’s also funny how at the time, when money was being made from us, we were welcome guests and friends, but now apparently we’re vandals and a hassle.

Just goes to show eh?

You can support someone for years on end and this is the thanks we get.

Very nice. Very nice indeed.

misspris 5:06 pm 11 May 09

Jim Jones said :

It had nothing to do with either profit or vandalism. To the best of my knowledge, the lease that expired and Gary (the owner of the Green Room) wasn’t given an opportunity to take it up again. As far as I know he’s still looking for a suitable venue (and he’s doing freelance PA hire and soundguy stuff at the moment). But it’s a hard ask – he’d already moved once to the University of Canberra (which was a pretty disastrous location).

Well, the reason the owner didn’t extend the lease was because he was sick of his car yard and others in Devine Court being vandalised. I’ve been told the premises are being converted into office space – good rental returns and far less hassle.

emd 4:05 pm 11 May 09

I always think of the O’Shea’s/Green Room location as The Henry Grattan. Nuff said.

Tonka 3:16 pm 11 May 09

Vandalism associated with the Greenroom?

I don’t think so.

I played there for years and never saw any vandalism associated with the Greenroom.

Nix, nada, nothing.

O’Sheas downstairs had some *interesting* patrons who sometimes enjoyed a bit of a scuffle (and I saw maybe three or four fights over all the years I played there), but it was nothing compared to the nonsense that goes on in civic or manuka on any given weekend, and nothing to do with the Greenroom.

I have some notion of why O’Sheas closed but I’m not going to say anything (it’s not my place to say anything), but associating vandalism with the Greenroom or their patrons is just not true and I actually find the idea offensive.

Jim Jones 3:07 pm 11 May 09

misspris said :

Nambucco Deliria said :

Canberra had the Green Room, which, whilst not as iconic as any of the venues mentioned by Bloodnut was a nationally known (at least by the many interstate bands that played there) and liked venue. But at the end of the day it didn’t turn enough of a profit to keep the owners interested.

It had nothing to do with profit and everything to do with vandalism that was associated with O’Sheas and The Green Room as I understand it. The owner also owns a car dealership in Devine Court.

It had nothing to do with either profit or vandalism. To the best of my knowledge, the lease that expired and Gary (the owner of the Green Room) wasn’t given an opportunity to take it up again. As far as I know he’s still looking for a suitable venue (and he’s doing freelance PA hire and soundguy stuff at the moment). But it’s a hard ask – he’d already moved once to the University of Canberra (which was a pretty disastrous location).

fnaah 2:14 pm 11 May 09

Perhaps talk to the Serbian club? Make The Folkus more permanent and more cross-genre?

misspris 2:11 pm 11 May 09

Nambucco Deliria said :

Canberra had the Green Room, which, whilst not as iconic as any of the venues mentioned by Bloodnut was a nationally known (at least by the many interstate bands that played there) and liked venue. But at the end of the day it didn’t turn enough of a profit to keep the owners interested.

It had nothing to do with profit and everything to do with vandalism that was associated with O’Sheas and The Green Room as I understand it. The owner also owns a car dealership in Devine Court.

farnarkler 1:42 pm 11 May 09

The government owns all ACT land so the government already owns drinking establishments. It seems a pity there are lots of bands out there with nowhere to play to an appreciative audience. Perhaps a JJJ pub.

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