27 November 2006

Stop using water, ok?

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Apparently we’re all using too much water and if we continue in the same manner the government will be forced to ban sprinklers.

The Canberra Times reports that our water consumption is 11 per cent above what it should be under the Stage 2 restrictions.

Despite the amounts of times it’s rained recently, rainfall is still at some kind of record low and Actew says this is concerning. They want all the plebs out there to “take restriction requirements seriously” and stop doing non-report deals with their neighbours.

The good news is that we’re still better off than Goulburn.

[ED – It’s a shame the Stanhope Government failed to understand the difference between emergency measures which people will support in the short term, and permanent measures which they might not, you can only go to the well of good will so many times]

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Well Im about to put a tank in so no clown on the hill can tell me when I can or can not water. I am amased that the ACT governemnt will let me water for 6 hours a day ( 7-10 and 19-22) every two days when I have installed an eletronic watering system and all I need is 15 minutes in the morning and 5 in the afternoon. Thats 140 minutes a week compared to the 1260 minutes that they allow me too. But Im sure that they would fine me if they caught the water on for a day that I am not allocated to.

I dont know how many houses have been build in the ACT over the past 10 years but I have not heard of any new dams going in. Infact I dont think that that have build a dam since the 60’s. And seeing the thought that they put into the disaster recovery plan for the ones that we have ( ie the Canberra bush fires ) Im not expecting too much from them despite the constant increase in rates.

In relation to the storm water, they did build a dam at the lower molongo treament plant becasue when the heavy rain do come they can not contain the amount of water and used to have to release millons of litres of untreated sewage into teh river. So they built a dam so they could contain it and pump it back later for treatment. Dont let them tell you that it is safe water, go down and have a look arond, the signs “do not enter the water” say it all.

Growling Ferret10:24 am 28 Nov 06

“where does the water from the 1000s of hectares of asphalt parking lots and tile roofs go to in the ACT??”

Molonglo River, which becomes the Murrumbidgee (and is joined by all our lovely treated sewage), which then goes into Burrinjuck reservior and the storage point for the Murrumbidgee Irrigation Area – see the link below on what the MIA produces.

http://www.mirrigation.com.au/AboutUs/Water_for_Life.htm

Whatever is left then moves on to the Murray – but there isn’t much left of that these days once you hit Wentworth due to no flow on the Darling (thanks Cubbie Station)

Into the river!

This is not a simple issue solved by building a new dam or adding water tanks. If we do not get a decent winter rain soon we are all in trouble. – I mean Australians not just Canberrians.
Our food will soon increase in price to levels not seen before just like bananas
Our attitude to water must change and we must treat it as a sacred resource.

equalitarian12:08 am 28 Nov 06

Someone, please, a factoid – where does the water from the 1000s of hectares of asphalt parking lots and tile roofs go to in the ACT??

What’s more, if we really tighten up our water use then we have to release water out of the dams straight into the river to maintain environmental flows.

so the whole thing is completely freaking stupid.

The rain water goes back into the river to feed the people of Adelaide.

equalitarian7:55 pm 27 Nov 06

Tanks are great, but you’re right, $2.500+ for 5000 litres is a disincentive.(you don’t need a plumber if you’re not tapping into the mains).
Where does Canberra’s storm water go? Not the toilet stuff, but the rain run-off from everywhere when it occasionally rains.
Much of the mainstream debate has been reduced to two issues:
1. people not believing poo and piss can become Perrier. And
2.desalination plants, where it would be cheaper to give everyone beer for drinking and run a pipe from New Zealand for the gardens,
But where’s the storm water going? Most big cities it’s going straight into the ocean.

shauno,

Nice plan in a simcity kind of way. As i understand it though, the drought is caused by the temperature of the pacific ocean (el nino).

No reason why we can’t put in a nuclear powered beer fridge in the tasman instead!! 🙂

Here’s my grand plan for fixing this and nation building as a bonus.

We build a Nuclear power station in South Australia fed by the Olympic dam mine.

We then construct a massive canal or pipe project on a huge scale from the sea to Lake Eyre powered by the above mentioned power station.

Lake Eyre being below sea level has a few advantages. Now lake Eyre being kept full to the brim not seen since the year dot will evaporate massive quantities of water into the atmosphere which prevailing winds blow over towards the east

A drought’s the best time to build a dam – fewer engineering issues.

It will rain again and then everyone will forget the water problem … until the next drought.

Then they’ll wish they actually did something now.

Yea but at this rate of rain fall it will take decades to fill up if at all and its not very environmentally friendly. Plus we waste so much water in the first place if we just recycled more it would help.

The dam price (if it could be filled) costs less per kilolitre too.

Perhaps we could take everyone’s $2500, put it all together a build a new dam or two.

If water tanks were mandatory for all new houses you wouldn’t notice the cost anyway. Whats $2500 on top of $350k for your new house.

Oh Thumper,

The water tanks are subsidised with a pitance as long as it is installed to the toilet/washing machine by a plumber. The plumbers will rip you off a lot to do so, including the renovation to the bathroom, toilet to install one of these gizmos.

The ACT Government should give a rebate for what ever water tank is installed as do several Sydney shires.

I disagree with your reality johnboy. One of those slimeline models holds about 3 hours of watering. Not worth the price to install because it wont get your garden through a drought.

Anyhow, desalination or filtering shit water to a potable state would cost less per kilolitre than installing water tanks.

Vic Bitterman4:10 pm 27 Nov 06

Well said Thumper.

I think you mean tiered pricing Pandy.

And if water tanks cost too much its because water prices are too low.

Yep.

A bit of out of hours watering because you know your neigbours wont be in blah blah blah, is OK. What I hate is those very suspicious green lawns. And what really stinks is those people who have a lawn exemption because their kid is a bit sick. Ban all lawn sprinkler watering with no exemptions! Including those houses in Red Hill/Forrest with their bore water.

And increasing water prices only hits the poor. The rich cunts don’t give a shit about water prices. So there should really be a realistic base allowance per household which includes watering a few bushes. Otherwise stuff the bush capital and I’ll concrete everying outside.

Water tanks!! Blah! Read the CT on Saturday. They are way too expensive. I priced one the other day and what with installation it would have cost be close to $2,500 to install.

Woody Mann-Caruso2:45 pm 27 Nov 06

non-report deals with their neighbours

People actually do this? Wow.

You people are confusing the fact that if you start pricing water correctly (tiered is good) that people will start implementing these water saving measures on their own free will .

What they have to realize is This dry spell is the norm. Even if its not we have to commit to policies with this fact in mind.

So what can we do.
1. Every new house built from now on to have water tanks. slim line, undergound, whatever.
2. Use proven worlds best technologies to recycle water
3. Invest in these technologies so we can export

4. Have tiered water cost approach so that after a certain level it becomes more expensive then petrol.

Um Im sure there are others

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