Tax Cuts or Health & Education spending?

Jazz 29 October 2007 67

CT had this story thismorning on a recent poll in the marginal seat of Eden Monaro which showed an overwhelming majority of respondants wanted more spending on health and education rather than tax cuts.

Now those of us over the border here are far more savvy and know that such polls are usually structured to create a desired result, but if you were asked the same question, what would your answer be?

Do you want.
A) Tax Cuts or ;
B) More govt spending on Health and Education?

And no you cant have both!


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Lord Mælinar Lord Mælinar 12:20 pm 31 Oct 07

not THE scarymary ?

Long live the Peoples Front of Judea my good friend, and help man the cannon firing oranges at the Romans.

scarymary scarymary 12:15 pm 31 Oct 07

Tax cuts for me – the feds don’t pay for hospitals or schools anyway, that’s the states responsibility. See how they stuff it up, so much for letting the government spend my money. Give it back to me and let me invest it where I see fit. There are plenty of other more competent organisations out there building and running private hospitals and schools. These would be cheaper too if the mass proportion of the market was not being under cut by the government trying to give it away. Government health and education is a form of price control in what should be a free market.

Jazz Jazz 12:09 pm 31 Oct 07

thanks VY. consider that everyone else who copies you is in effect also paying you homage

Lord Mælinar Lord Mælinar 11:29 am 31 Oct 07

Sounds too similar to ‘Messiah’ – As I keep telling people, I’m not him and stop bothering me.

Snahons_scv6_berlina Snahons_scv6_berlina 11:23 am 31 Oct 07

Sure you don’t prefer Massa ?

Lord Mælinar Lord Mælinar 10:57 am 31 Oct 07

I prefer Masta 🙂

VYBerlinaV8 VYBerlinaV8 10:44 am 31 Oct 07

Happy baas?

VYBerlinaV8. VYBerlinaV8. 10:39 am 31 Oct 07

Yessir baas, justa wait one momen’ an’ I’ll changa ma profile… Do’n beat me…

Lord Mælinar Lord Mælinar 10:28 am 31 Oct 07

I think he was more after VYBerlinaV8… compare_your_lives_to_mine_and_kill_yourselves

instead of VYBerlinaV8…(no space)compare_your_lives_to_mine_and_kill_yourselves

VYBerlinaV8 VYBerlinaV8 10:03 am 31 Oct 07

I put my car as user name AGES ago. Everyone else copied me. Naah naah nee nah naah.

Jazz Jazz 9:57 am 31 Oct 07

guys, We really dont care what sort of car you have, but can you at least put spaces in your name when you make a comment. It throws the recent comments way out of whack.

VYBerlinaV8 VYBerlinaV8 9:09 am 31 Oct 07

“there is absolutely no reason why an intelligent, qualified person cannot bargain a more lucrative position against an otherwise unqualified admin monkey”

And therein lies the whole point of individual agreements. If the admin monkey can’t get the job/pay they want, they are free to pursue extra study. Welcome to Australia.

VYBerlinaV8 VYBerlinaV8 9:06 am 31 Oct 07

Moral to my story Ingee? That even one of the supposed best schools in town employs teachers who either have no idea, or don’t normally teach that subject. As for her being my boss, no such luck.

Lord Mælinar Lord Mælinar 8:36 am 31 Oct 07

Perhaps teachers should use their ‘academic superiority’ to negotiate more lucrative AWA’s instead of threatening strike action annually.

Thus the true test of a teachers abilities lies in their bargaining position at the negotation table – the more results the teacher has, the better the position.

Whilst I disagree with the fundamental concept of AWA’s, there is absolutely no reason why an intelligent, qualified person cannot bargain a more lucrative position against an otherwise unqualified admin monkey.

3% unemployment rate peoples, I see that as a negotiating chip, not a disadvantage.

Thumper Thumper 8:10 am 31 Oct 07

I have to agree with Nemo on his first point. While doing my B.Ed (after my B.AppSci), I came across uni students who couldn’t string a sentence together, albeit, they were a minority.

But I’m still far from convinced about performance pay for teachers. I would suggest it would be better to have various pay scales and one must reach a certain level to move upwards to another pay scale. yes, this is a sort of performance pay, but not the sort that is being bandied around at this time by the federal government.

Special G Special G 5:32 am 31 Oct 07

It will be interesting to see what might happen when all the baby boomers retire and suddenly there is a massive teacher shortage. They will have to do something to attract more people eg better conditions or pay.

This basically goes across the health and education sectors. Keep screwing over the staff and they will leave. To get them back or make it attractive to others basically means pay them more.

nyssa76 nyssa76 10:46 pm 30 Oct 07

I have seen teachers teaching concepts which they obviously dont understand, and others who just couldn’t care less and hand out photocopies for every lesson.

Could it be that the teacher was ‘forced’ into taking a class that they weren’t “qualified” for because there wasn’t another teacher and the decision was made by executive?

This happens a lot in Canberra btw.

As for being qualified, perhaps there needs to be a ‘report’ into why some individual high school curriculum is better suited to the primary level and that the curriulum is being dumbed down.

I’ve read and implemented the new curriculum, even though I don’t agree with aspects of it – too much is placed on English/SOSE, causing imbalance in a system which promotes equality of the subjects.

The new curriculum is being implemented next year but wait….most of the PD (professional development) is being offered to executive staff instead of the classroom teachers who will actually have to implement it and write curriculum to address it.

Just to add, I’ve had a teacher ask me what a cube root was just so he could go into the classroom next lesson and teach it. I was stunned more by the acceptability of doing that, than the fact that he was a math teacher and I was an English/SOSE teacher and I had more content knowledge in his subject.

Ingeegoodbee Ingeegoodbee 10:22 pm 30 Oct 07

Hey it’s math, not spelling or grammar so shut up

Ingeegoodbee Ingeegoodbee 10:21 pm 30 Oct 07

And the moral og this story VY? She’s you boss now isn’t she, admit it!

VYBerlinaV8...the_original_and_best VYBerlinaV8...the_original_and_best 9:50 pm 30 Oct 07

Funny people mention teachers not understanding concepts…

Back in uni days I used to do some high school tutoring (1 on 1) for a few extra bucks. I remember teaching a year 11 girl to draw a line on a graph. All of sudden she says “so THAT’S what the teacher meant by slope”. The students in that class had never graphed a line before, and were being taught ‘cheat’ methods to solve basic problems. The school? Canberra Girls Grammar…

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