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Terribad neighbours.

Dilandach 14 October 2012 39

Where I live has been relatively quiet. Apart from the odd person relieving me of the burden of a full tank of petrol. We had a neighbour that was troubling. Except for the odd screaming and banging in his house or eyeballing me, it wasn’t too much of an issue.

They moved out, we cheered and hoped that the next lot of people would be somewhat less of a hassle.

Oh how our hopes were dashed.

Ever since they’ve moved in, there are screaming matches at any time of the day or night. We usually dread friday and saturday nights due to the sub-human inhabitants getting tanked up on whatever it is they drink/smoke/snort. Now these screaming matches just aren’t slightly raised voices, they’re full on screaming, car window breaking, throwing items including garbage onto my front lawn, choking and last night while I was out on the varandah… pissing on my drive way. I gave a “what the fuck? seriously!” to no response. No doubt trying to get more of a reaction out of me for a reason to punch on with me.

Nearly every weekend the cops have been called, we’ve called once but obviously others around call as well.

As much as I’d like to reason with these people to grow the fuck up and deal with their issues without being a pain to everyone around them, I know that the knuckle draggers would rather take a swing than agree to knock it off. I’ve got two children under 6 who thankfully so far have slept through the worst of it but no doubt would absolutely be terrified of the screams of some chick and dude loving each other with their fists.

I have the phone number of the owner of the house. I’m not sure if I should pass that on to the realestate agent to take up with the owner or if there’s some other course of action I could take. Quiet, its all we want. What can I do?


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nyssa1976 6:44 pm 23 Oct 12

Masquara said :

Nan212 said :

Calling the police is not really an option. They don’t like getting involved in ‘domestics’.

That is nonsense. Police have been given intensive training regarding domestic violence for some years now; there is a domestic violence unit and the police will charge a domestic violence perpetrator regardless of whether the victim wishes to press charges. Times have changed.

Masquara, I’m afraid that’s a load of bollocks.

They may get ‘training’ but I know first hand how crap the police are about DV. I’ve had breaches of DVOs where he admitted it and STILL nothing happened (whilst on probation mind you), being told ‘are you happy now?’ once they arrested him and took him away (only for him to be released the next morning straight back to the house and many more incidences where the police did absolutely nothing.

The cops don’t do squat when it comes to DVOs.

Monomyth 4:17 pm 23 Oct 12

As a tenant in an apartment bock (and that might be the key here) who has made several phonecalls to the real estate agency, I’ve been told on every ocassion that all they can do is call the Body Corp who will issue a letter to the offending tenants. If I require further action I need to contact the police.

I doubt the owners will have more legal rights than the BC but I’m happy to be wrong on that!

steveu 8:33 pm 15 Oct 12

Masquara said :

Nan212 said :

Calling the police is not really an option. They don’t like getting involved in ‘domestics’.

That is nonsense. Police have been given intensive training regarding domestic violence for some years now; there is a domestic violence unit and the police will charge a domestic violence perpetrator regardless of whether the victim wishes to press charges. Times have changed.

Correct. Also adds weight to the case when they can say they have had x hundred calls etc over y months etc. Police are there to keep the peace, help them do heir job by letting them know, every time.

RedDogInCan 7:26 pm 15 Oct 12

Nan212 said :

You and your family shouldn’t have to put up with that crap! You say you have the owner’s phone number? I think I would be calling them and asking them to give their agent a ring.

Seriously, ring the owner each and every time there is a disturbance, irrespective of the time of day. Make your problem, their problem – after all they let their house to these people.

NoImRight 12:56 pm 15 Oct 12

It surprisingly hard sometimes to move a tenant out for things like this. Even not paying rent for months can drag on so some of the more touchy feely stuff can be even harder to enforce.

PBO 12:37 pm 15 Oct 12

Download the mp3 of LRAD tones (Long Range Acoustic Device), put some tubes over the front of your speakers to direct the sound and give them a blasting while shining a laser pointer in their eyes.

Or………..just give a vague description and location of the place and let the RA Army of Anarchists go to town.

Grrrr 11:55 am 15 Oct 12

To be precise, your neighbours are likely in breach of clause 70 of the Standard Tenancy Agreement, which can be found here: http://www.tenantsact.org.au/rentingAdvice/Standard-Lease-Agreement-in-the-ACT

Grrrr 11:50 am 15 Oct 12

Last time I read the ACT Standard Tenancy Agreement it stated that the neighbours to the tenants have a right to peace and the quiet enjoyment of their own property. It also stated that these rules were effectively law and applied whether or not the tenants had signed a document agreeing to them.

So, it seems to me that your neighbours are likely to be in breach of their lease. I’d be pointing this out to the real estate agent, or the owner if it is a private rental.

Despite the comments here, I believe that the agent/owner has some degree of legal responsibility here (IANAL.) Apart from talking to a lawyer , there are better forums dedicated to rentals and shared living where people can probably provide more useful advice. Seek them out. Maybe read some of http://www.tenantsact.org.au/

Alderney 11:36 am 15 Oct 12

Girt_Hindrance said :

We’ve one of the Rebels living nearby and have had no noted urban crime for over two years.

That’s because the police are always watching the place. The next street however…

Alderney 11:34 am 15 Oct 12

devils_advocate said :

thoughtpod said :

We’ll give you the sack, but you have to supply your own doorknobs.

This.

Have you thought about investing a few thousand in a late night session of contact counciling coupled with an appropriate warning?

Some people only respond to that which they understand.

The problem won’t drag on and my guess is they’ll quieten up really quick.

Girt_Hindrance 11:09 am 15 Oct 12

A colleague of mine had some trouble with disrespectful neighbours, although she also has a relative with a unmufflered Harley and matching leathers/outfit.
Reportedly only took one loud arrival with some superfluous engine revving on her driveway for the neighbours behaviour to completely subside.
Can one hire a Harley/ Harley owner?
We’ve one of the Rebels living nearby and have had no noted urban crime for over two years.

Chop71 11:09 am 15 Oct 12

A shotgun would fix the problem

Mysteryman 10:31 am 15 Oct 12

thoughtpod said :

I’ve always wondered why we try to tackle these as individuals. Basically, these people are intimidating you with the threat of escalated harassment and potential violence. The system can’t act swiftly because it is not geared to taking these type of people and dealing with them coersively.

But what if you got yourself, your neighbor, their other neighbor, and the one further on, the four behind their house, the ones across the road, and a bunch of others, as well as a few (burly) friends, to take a community action. To all walk up to their door as a group of 15, 16 pissed off people and let them know that when they mess with anyone, they mess with everyone, and you expect them to shut up and behave.

Unfortunately, all these people understand (in their unsophisticated way) is brute power…so why not show them that you can harness the community to intervene.

I had basically the same people living next to me, and while the situation resolved itself (they were moved out), I always wondered why I’d never done this.

I think this would be a more effective approach. OP wouldn’t need to threaten anyone or break the law, but if all the neighbours showed up and made it clear that they’d had enough and they would no longer tolerate their behaviour, the jerk-offs might get the picture.

devils_advocate 8:47 am 15 Oct 12

thoughtpod said :

But what if you got yourself, your neighbor, their other neighbor, and the one further on, the four behind their house, the ones across the road, and a bunch of others, as well as a few (burly) friends, to take a community action. To all walk up to their door as a group of 15, 16 pissed off people and let them know that when they mess with anyone, they mess with everyone, and you expect them to shut up and behave.

Unfortunately, all these people understand (in their unsophisticated way) is brute power…so why not show them that you can harness the community to intervene.

We’ll give you the sack, but you have to supply your own doorknobs.

Sic 8:37 am 15 Oct 12

Wow, I think the most surprising part of this article was the point where this is a private rental. Definitely call the owner and real estate agent. If they’ve only just moved in they would definitely want to know.

I genuinely thought this story was going to end with “it’s a government or community organisation house”. In which case you’re almost stuffed, unless you manage to get a petition of 350 people to get the arsonist scum kicked out by marymead like we did.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 10:19 pm 14 Oct 12

Tetranitrate said :

I don’t understand why so many people here seem to think that the landlord or RE agent has some kind of responsibility – it’s as though you expect them to be like parents or something.
Where does this ridiculous idea come from? the notion that tenants are like children and if you ring the ‘parents’ they’ll sort it out.

Tenants don’t have any less rights here than owners and if there are noise issues your recourse is the police and the courts. You are talking about adults who are responsible for their own actions, not school children. “handing the bill to the real estate agent” is the pinnacle of absurdity here, they’ll rightly tell you to F— off.
Police, AVOs, a current affair – whatever.

Because its basic human decency to not rent to a shitbag. If you own or manage the property, you have a responsibility to the community.

thoughtpod 9:08 pm 14 Oct 12

I’ve always wondered why we try to tackle these as individuals. Basically, these people are intimidating you with the threat of escalated harassment and potential violence. The system can’t act swiftly because it is not geared to taking these type of people and dealing with them coersively.

But what if you got yourself, your neighbor, their other neighbor, and the one further on, the four behind their house, the ones across the road, and a bunch of others, as well as a few (burly) friends, to take a community action. To all walk up to their door as a group of 15, 16 pissed off people and let them know that when they mess with anyone, they mess with everyone, and you expect them to shut up and behave.

Unfortunately, all these people understand (in their unsophisticated way) is brute power…so why not show them that you can harness the community to intervene.

I had basically the same people living next to me, and while the situation resolved itself (they were moved out), I always wondered why I’d never done this.

milkman 8:25 pm 14 Oct 12

If someone told me that one of my tenants was behaving like this, and I was able to verify this, I’d throw the tenants out on the street.

Tetranitrate 8:24 pm 14 Oct 12

I don’t understand why so many people here seem to think that the landlord or RE agent has some kind of responsibility – it’s as though you expect them to be like parents or something.
Where does this ridiculous idea come from? the notion that tenants are like children and if you ring the ‘parents’ they’ll sort it out.

Tenants don’t have any less rights here than owners and if there are noise issues your recourse is the police and the courts. You are talking about adults who are responsible for their own actions, not school children. “handing the bill to the real estate agent” is the pinnacle of absurdity here, they’ll rightly tell you to F— off.
Police, AVOs, a current affair – whatever.

steele_blade 8:05 pm 14 Oct 12

Has anyone thought of what the really sad part is? When the OP is finally successful, these reprobates will just move on to another neighborhood and make somebody else’s life miserable. The behavior won’t be modified.

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