The Cull goes to Court. Delayed until at least Wednesday

johnboy 7 June 2013 42

Courts have a natural inclination to increase their jurisdiction.

So it’s a little sad but no surprise to hear from TAMS that the anti-cull nutbags have won the right to be heard:

A hearing was held this afternoon at the ACT Administrative Appeals Tribunal (ACAT) regarding an application from Animal Liberation ACT and Australian Society for Kangaroos regarding the Conservator of Flora and Fauna’s decision to issue licences to Territory and Municipal Services for the purposes of undertaking a conservation cull of 1455 eastern grey kangaroos at seven reserves.

ACAT determined that both groups need to submit additional supporting evidence at a hearing to be held on Wednesday 12 June 2013.

“It is important to understand that the outcome today is not about the science that supports the conservation cull but is in fact about the right for these organisations to challenge the decision to grant a licence under the Nature Conservation Act 1980,” said Daniel Iglesias, Director, ACT Parks and Conservation.

“At this stage it is not an injunction or postponing of the cull, it is simply a procedural process to give the tribunal time to determine whether or not they will hear the case. We will comply with the tribunal’s instructions to not commence the conservation cull until at least Wednesday’s proceedings are heard.


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IrishPete IrishPete 2:10 am 12 Jun 13

What I love most (not) about the kangaroo cull (aka the roo massacre) is that it comes around every year, just like Christmas. In fact it is Groundhog Day all over again, but with added bullets.

Every year everyone trots out the same tired old arguments for the cull, and the same tired old arguments against the cull. Frankly, none of them are particularly credible. The ACT Government’s “science” and concern for grass and little critters is a little undermined by the ongoing bulldozer of development and human population growth (and their preference for spending money on bullets over controlling weeds, as eloquently pointed out by an earlier poster).

Yet the animal rights folks’ arguments are undermined by their general, err, sorry, nuttiness.

Perhaps one day someone will make an honest objective assessment of the situation. I had kinda hoped that ShaneR would, but perhaps next year.

For this year, vale Skippy, I hope you are reincarnated as something more protected, or bulletproof – or maybe as a bullbar.

IP

AndrewW AndrewW 9:58 pm 10 Jun 13

Roundhead89 said :

AndrewW said :

Roundhead89 said :

This is how terrorism begins. People get involved in animal liberation then take their radical anti-human approach to the next stage and blow up people. The aim of animal rights activists is the removal of all people from the earth and to hand it over to animals. It is a proven fact that the majority of terrorists are vegetarians or vegans (like animal rights activists) and this is part of the wider left wing Agenda 21.

A bit like how the popularity of The Simpsons led to an increase in organised crime, eh Johnny Boy?

Andrew I love how you take the bait each time. If only other Rioters could bite as frequently. By the way Andy I have a new election video on YouTube, could you kindly promote it for me?

It doesn’t count as a “bite” when you genuinely believe the boneheaded things you say.

If you like the attention, why not allow comments on your videos?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 5:57 pm 10 Jun 13

Roundhead89 said :

c_c™ said :

Some more info comes to hand, showing links between this to an organisation called the ‘Institute for Critical Animal Studies”

The institute describes its founding as follows:

“The Institute for Critical Animal Studies (ICAS), founded in 2001, post September 11, in era of the War on Terrorism.”

They actually try linking animal welfare to the war on terror. Not surprising, elsewhere in their materials they try to work Thomas Aquinas into the mix!

It goes on:

“ICAS is a radical academic-activist research center dedicated to advancing critical animal studies by working in multiple disciplines and movements.”

This is how terrorism begins. People get involved in animal liberation then take their radical anti-human approach to the next stage and blow up people. The aim of animal rights activists is the removal of all people from the earth and to hand it over to animals. It is a proven fact that the majority of terrorists are vegetarians or vegans (like animal rights activists) and this is part of the wider left wing Agenda 21.

Lol

Please tell me you have sources for these allegations?

Roundhead89 Roundhead89 5:39 pm 10 Jun 13

AndrewW said :

Roundhead89 said :

This is how terrorism begins. People get involved in animal liberation then take their radical anti-human approach to the next stage and blow up people. The aim of animal rights activists is the removal of all people from the earth and to hand it over to animals. It is a proven fact that the majority of terrorists are vegetarians or vegans (like animal rights activists) and this is part of the wider left wing Agenda 21.

A bit like how the popularity of The Simpsons led to an increase in organised crime, eh Johnny Boy?

Andrew I love how you take the bait each time. If only other Rioters could bite as frequently. By the way Andy I have a new election video on YouTube, could you kindly promote it for me?

AndrewW AndrewW 3:49 pm 10 Jun 13

Roundhead89 said :

This is how terrorism begins. People get involved in animal liberation then take their radical anti-human approach to the next stage and blow up people. The aim of animal rights activists is the removal of all people from the earth and to hand it over to animals. It is a proven fact that the majority of terrorists are vegetarians or vegans (like animal rights activists) and this is part of the wider left wing Agenda 21.

A bit like how the popularity of The Simpsons led to an increase in organised crime, eh Johnny Boy?

Grimm Grimm 3:09 pm 10 Jun 13

LSWCHP said :

According to a report in the SMH, if the cull goes ahead Ms Drew and her mates are planning on disrupting it via dashing around in the line of fire.

I would say that no matter how much they love our native fauna, getting on the wrong end of a high powered rifle bullet would not result in a happy ending for anybody, and they shouldn’t even think of attempting such a foolish action.

I would say we should stop hampering natural selection and let them go right ahead.

Wonder if they will actually show up to the right place this time, or be 5km down the road in the wrong paddock again? hahahah

Mr Evil Mr Evil 2:28 pm 10 Jun 13

c_c™ said :

On 7 Nov last year, she said “Israel – the Nazis would be proud of you”.

.

Actually, I agree with Carolyn on one thing: the way the Israelis do carry on – yes, I think the Nazis would be proud of them too! They’ve taken the whole concept of Lebensraum onboard, and have ignored international condemnation whilst spreading their settlements all over the West Bank and bulldozing the resident Palestinians out of the way.

Every group has their share of nutjobs – and Carolyn is obviously the animal liberationist’s one.

FreddyVegan FreddyVegan 1:38 pm 10 Jun 13

Roundhead89 said :

c_c™ said :

Some more info comes to hand, showing links between this to an organisation called the ‘Institute for Critical Animal Studies”

The institute describes its founding as follows:

“The Institute for Critical Animal Studies (ICAS), founded in 2001, post September 11, in era of the War on Terrorism.”

They actually try linking animal welfare to the war on terror. Not surprising, elsewhere in their materials they try to work Thomas Aquinas into the mix!

It goes on:

“ICAS is a radical academic-activist research center dedicated to advancing critical animal studies by working in multiple disciplines and movements.”

This is how terrorism begins. People get involved in animal liberation then take their radical anti-human approach to the next stage and blow up people. The aim of animal rights activists is the removal of all people from the earth and to hand it over to animals. It is a proven fact that the majority of terrorists are vegetarians or vegans (like animal rights activists) and this is part of the wider left wing Agenda 21.

LOL

Blen_Carmichael Blen_Carmichael 11:53 am 10 Jun 13

LSWCHP said :

According to a report in the SMH, if the cull goes ahead Ms Drew and her mates are planning on disrupting it via dashing around in the line of fire.

Idiots. Don’t they know it’s a kangaroo cull, not a turkey shoot?

Diggety Diggety 10:10 am 10 Jun 13

c_c™ said :

Some more info comes to hand, showing links between this to an organisation called the ‘Institute for Critical Animal Studies”

The institute describes its founding as follows:

“The Institute for Critical Animal Studies (ICAS), founded in 2001, post September 11, in era of the War on Terrorism.”

They actually try linking animal welfare to the war on terror. Not surprising, elsewhere in their materials they try to work Thomas Aquinas into the mix!

It goes on:

“ICAS is a radical academic-activist research center dedicated to advancing critical animal studies by working in multiple disciplines and movements.”

Can’t wait to watch the PETA episode of South Park again…

Thumper Thumper 10:04 am 10 Jun 13

It is a proven fact that the majority of terrorists are vegetarians or vegans (like animal rights activists) and this is part of the wider left wing Agenda 21.

Do you actually read what you type?

So, in your strange world, being vegetarian equates to terrorism which means blowing up innocent people?

That has got to be the longest bow I’ve ever seen being drawn.

Pork Hunt Pork Hunt 8:21 am 10 Jun 13

LSWCHP said :

According to a report in the SMH, if the cull goes ahead Ms Drew and her mates are planning on disrupting it via dashing around in the line of fire.

I would say that no matter how much they love our native fauna, getting on the wrong end of a high powered rifle bullet would not result in a happy ending for anybody, and they shouldn’t even think of attempting such a foolish action.

She’s not foolish, it’s a noble act to martyr yourself for a cause you believe in…

Roundhead89 Roundhead89 3:12 am 10 Jun 13

c_c™ said :

Some more info comes to hand, showing links between this to an organisation called the ‘Institute for Critical Animal Studies”

The institute describes its founding as follows:

“The Institute for Critical Animal Studies (ICAS), founded in 2001, post September 11, in era of the War on Terrorism.”

They actually try linking animal welfare to the war on terror. Not surprising, elsewhere in their materials they try to work Thomas Aquinas into the mix!

It goes on:

“ICAS is a radical academic-activist research center dedicated to advancing critical animal studies by working in multiple disciplines and movements.”

This is how terrorism begins. People get involved in animal liberation then take their radical anti-human approach to the next stage and blow up people. The aim of animal rights activists is the removal of all people from the earth and to hand it over to animals. It is a proven fact that the majority of terrorists are vegetarians or vegans (like animal rights activists) and this is part of the wider left wing Agenda 21.

DrKoresh DrKoresh 10:08 pm 09 Jun 13

LSWCHP said :

According to a report in the SMH, if the cull goes ahead Ms Drew and her mates are planning on disrupting it via dashing around in the line of fire.

I would say that no matter how much they love our native fauna, getting on the wrong end of a high powered rifle bullet would not result in a happy ending for anybody, and they shouldn’t even think of attempting such a foolish action.

As a species we’d probably be better off in the long run if they did though, 2 culls for the price of 1.

LSWCHP LSWCHP 9:57 pm 09 Jun 13

According to a report in the SMH, if the cull goes ahead Ms Drew and her mates are planning on disrupting it via dashing around in the line of fire.

I would say that no matter how much they love our native fauna, getting on the wrong end of a high powered rifle bullet would not result in a happy ending for anybody, and they shouldn’t even think of attempting such a foolish action.

c_c™ c_c™ 6:38 pm 09 Jun 13

Some more info comes to hand, showing links between this to an organisation called the ‘Institute for Critical Animal Studies”

The institute describes its founding as follows:

“The Institute for Critical Animal Studies (ICAS), founded in 2001, post September 11, in era of the War on Terrorism.”

They actually try linking animal welfare to the war on terror. Not surprising, elsewhere in their materials they try to work Thomas Aquinas into the mix!

It goes on:

“ICAS is a radical academic-activist research center dedicated to advancing critical animal studies by working in multiple disciplines and movements.”

Blen_Carmichael Blen_Carmichael 5:49 pm 09 Jun 13

FreddyVegan said :

c-c , I personally know Carolyn and she is one of the most intelligent, compassionate and giving people I know. I am offended you have said these things about such an amazing woman. She dedicates her life to helping others, how dare you say such things.

Indeed, she sounds like the epitome of charm:

https://twitter.com/kangarevolution/status/316433290515070978

Affirmative Action Man Affirmative Action Man 10:04 am 09 Jun 13

DrKoresh said :

c_c™ said :

On 7 Nov last year, she said “Israel – the Nazis would be proud of you”.

And she called Australia “the land of racists”.

Particularly ironic though is every time she appears on Canberra pretending to be a protector of lives and the environment, she does so with very obvious, dark red died hair, the use of such dies posing an environmental and health hazard. Fail.

I agree with you that she is a nutter, but I’ve got say that while her comment about Israel was entirely tasteless and inappropriate, it’s not that much of an exaggeration, I don’t want to distract or detract from the absolute horror of the Jewish Holocaust, but I think the modern State of Israel acts arrogantly and disgracefully on the international stage and the events of WWII in no way excuse their current behaviour.

As for racism Australia you only have to look at the success of the “Stop the Boats” mentality to know how true that statement is. Forgetting the Liberals, the current Labor government has treated the issue of asylum seekers equally disgustingly, by excluding the Australian mainland from our migration zone and setting up off-shore detention centres in countries who are unwilling or unable to provide basic human rights, because apparently (and shamefully) that’s what the majority of the nation wants. If you can defend that as something other than xenophobia and racism, I’d like to hear it.

To be fair on the issue of hair-dye, if it’s red, she may well have used henna, which is a natural red dye used by lots of people who don’t use actual dye for health/moral reasons.

I’m waiting for someone to show us a country that isn’t racist.

EvanJames EvanJames 9:58 pm 08 Jun 13

crappicker said :

What an obvious display of neglected maintenance by the ACT government. Wide spreads of three different weeds and, for a geologist’s eye, some worrying land erosion. Not in a far out corner of the reserve, but right along the main entrance track. It cannot be missed by anyone, let alone ACT Parks’ officials.

Such obvious neglect mocks the ACT government’s claim that prevention of ecological degradation requires culling in ACT nature reserves of resident kangaroos, which after all are a protected, unique, native, species, that has been intimately involved over the past few million years in shaping Australia’s ecological systems as they are today.

Degradation yes, …of the government’s standing.

Interesting, isn’t it, how suddenly they’ll spend what is it, $200,000k on a cull, yet those of us with eyes watch the weed situation get worse every year (oh but at least they pulled up the willows), not to mention erosion, and they let bulldozers tear up the land with impunity.

But those who are rabidly and even venomously wanting the roo hunt to go ahead can take hope from knowing that since this hunt is based on Science, it will be upheld in the court case. The court will see the Science and order that the roos are shot for their own good (or that of some plants, that have survived the weeds, the erosion and the bulldozers).

DrKoresh DrKoresh 9:33 pm 08 Jun 13

obamabinladen said :

When intelligent alien life see the earth and the plague of humans destroying this beautiful planet I wonder if they will have a human cull???

Insightful or inane? YOU decide.

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