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Toll Roads for Canberra?

By Hosinator 21 January 2014 45

According to the recent Crimes article on the State of the State, Action buses are bleeding between $93 and $100 million a year. I’m wondering if the time has come for the ACT Government to consider toll roads across Canberra in an effort to stop the bleeding.

With an extensive and ever growing road network, I don’t know how we can sustain the levels of building and road maintenance for such a small population.

I’m not after opinion on the logistics or difficulties in setting up toll roads and that you’ll get rat runners etc (the easiest way to counter this is to have toll road devices at every entrance and exit to a suburb, town centre or industrial area across the ACT.)

I want to know if you think it will happen, should it be a flat fee, no matter how far or how many roads you use in a day, will it have a positive impact on the ACT Government budget and increase patronage of the buses, cycle network?

Over to you!

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NoImRight 9:53 am 30 Jan 14

zorro29 said :

It would be nice if other cities pitched in with tolls and not just constant gouging of Sydney-siders…….

Umm..what?

magiccar9 11:20 pm 29 Jan 14

Ben_Dover said :

Don’t worry, soon mayor Ratt will spend umpteen billion dollars on a train/tram/not bus thing which will run along virtually the whole of Northbourne avenue, and everyone wil abandon their cars and catch this, as it’s not a bus. The roads will be deserted, the coffers of the ACT overflowing with tram like thing fares, and all will be rosy in the garden. New trees will spring unbidden from the roadside, the Tassie devil will become a regular sighting and unicorns will graze the verges. Soon all the houses in the ACT will become powered by energy harnessed off giant dreamcatchers, rain will fall for an hour each night, and we’ll all live in harmony, just like in the song “melting pot” by Blue Mink.

Surely this is exactly what Rattenbury dreams about at night.

Ben_Dover 5:43 pm 29 Jan 14

Don’t worry, soon mayor Ratt will spend umpteen billion dollars on a train/tram/not bus thing which will run along virtually the whole of Northbourne avenue, and everyone wil abandon their cars and catch this, as it’s not a bus. The roads will be deserted, the coffers of the ACT overflowing with tram like thing fares, and all will be rosy in the garden. New trees will spring unbidden from the roadside, the Tassie devil will become a regular sighting and unicorns will graze the verges. Soon all the houses in the ACT will become powered by energy harnessed off giant dreamcatchers, rain will fall for an hour each night, and we’ll all live in harmony, just like in the song “melting pot” by Blue Mink.

gazket 5:18 pm 29 Jan 14

qbngeek said :

c_c™ said :

Kings Highway casualty crash rate for eastern section is 52.3, double the state average.
Accident rate is 150% higher for the section in Eurobodalla Shire than any other road in the shire, and 36% higher than the Princes Highway, itself a dangerous road.
Accidents on the Kings Highway have greater severity by statewide standards.
40% of the Highway has a lane width under the 3.5 m standard designated by RMS, with several section still having widths under 3m.
Almost 50% of the highway has insufficient, or no shoulders at all.
There are sections with ageing pavement, up to 40 years old, and with question marks over structural integrity.
Several bridges are reaching the end of their engineered life span.
Average for NSW roads of curves with <600m radius is 13% of total length, for the Kings it's 30%.

Traffic on the Kings Highway corridor is projected to increase by 50% over next two decades.

Upgrades to the western section of the Highway have cut the causality accident rate however to half the state average.

Those are the facts.

Where are those facts from? I would like to see if there is any information about what times of year the majority of accidents occur or if they are pretty static all year round.

I have a suspicion that they might be occurring about the same time that a massive amount of motorists with little country driving experience and a desire to get there as quickly as possible are hitting the road.

not only the above but car dynamics change for the worse when you add weight so a sudden weight or inertia change can be uncontrollable or take a lot longer to recover than the lighter car your used to driving every other day.

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