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What the salvos do with charity bin dumpings

johnboy 11 February 2011 29

salvos truck

Damien Haas has sent this one in after unloading his packed panel van at the tip for a princely $10.

Apparently two men and the truck were needed to offload all the crap.

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thatsnotme 10:53 pm 02 Sep 11

+1 to just getting rid of the bins, and forcing people to drop stuff off at the stores. The bins at Kippax have turned into an unofficial tip as far as I can see. Seriously – as of tonight, there was an old TV outside of one (would anyone who honestly thought someone could use it leave it out to be rained on??), right alongside numerous bags and boxes of crap, and some old smashed up plastic clothes baskets. Not just a bit broken, but totally trashed.

Only a week or so ago, I was down there when a truck was picking up all the stuff that had been dumped – not the one pictured, but I’m sure it went straight to the tip too. Even something that was actually valuable is going to be useless after a week or two left out in the elements. Since then, the junk has accumulated again…so the charities will be forced to pay for someone to collect it and dispose of it all again soon.

I think these charities need to make a call and decide whether they’re after quality, or quantity. Sure, by removing the bins, they may end up with a reduction in the quantity of donated goods, but they may end up being ahead when they no longer need to pay for someone to collect and dump all the rubbish.

Henry82 10:37 pm 02 Sep 11

Farmer said :

i haven’t got one good word to say about them

why? because your sister in law doesnt want a trip to the dump? They said “no thankyou” because nobody is going to buy it. If it’s so “good”, you should be able to give it to a friend. Get over it.

I-filed 10:27 pm 02 Sep 11

Farmer said :

well here is a story my sister in law lives in Melbourne she phoned the Salvos and asked them if they wanted a nearly perfect lounge sweet the low pricks said can you bring it down she said no she hasn’t got a trailer, so they come up looked at it and other stuff and they said no thank you if it had of been leather we would have taken it but velour doesn’t sell well. i haven’t got one good word to say about them

Yep – it wastes the Salvos’ time when people tell them they have good second stuff and it turns out to be cr*p and the people concerned are just trying to save a trip to the dump.

CLooey 10:22 pm 02 Sep 11

Anna Key said :

At my local shops, people don’t even seemed too shy about dumping crap around the bins. Maybe I should start taking the camera and loading up a few shots

Yes I agree! Do a name and shame until people start to smarten up. The lazy creeps who dump off their crap instead of disposing of it properly should also get fined.

Farmer 9:55 pm 02 Sep 11

well here is a story my sister in law lives in Melbourne she phoned the Salvos and asked them if they wanted a nearly perfect lounge sweet the low pricks said can you bring it down she said no she hasn’t got a trailer, so they come up looked at it and other stuff and they said no thank you if it had of been leather we would have taken it but velour doesn’t sell well. i haven’t got one good word to say about them

cleo 12:24 am 04 Mar 11

Salvos often get too much stuff, so they dump which it, can be good things, my suggestion is to donate to a church group along Forbes Street Turner, they are near The Northbourne flats, only on a Monday, they donate free to people, I often donate there as I know they appreciate it.

BlackIce 8:54 pm 17 Feb 11

ML-585 said :

Davo111 said :

What would be interesting is if there was a law against placing rubbish around those bins, supported by a *huge* fine. It might be an incentive not to dump crap out there.

Define *huge*. There already is a law against placing rubbish around charity bins (it’s called littering). Refer here: http://www.tams.act.gov.au/live/recycling-waste/options/recycling_reusable_items/charities

I wonder how often the $5000 fine is imposed? Forget more fixed speed cameras; charity bin cameras seem the way to go!

But seriously, I long for the council cleanups that used to happen when we lived in Sydney. Four cleanups a year were included in the annual domestic waste management levey on your rates.

Nightshade 6:33 pm 17 Feb 11

The Salvos are really pushing this issue at the moment. There was an article about it in the City News a few weeks ago, and one in this week’s Northside Chronicle. I would be more sympathetic if the accompanying photograph didn’t show a pair of grim-faced Salvos staff sitting on top of a pile of perfectly reasonable looking things, described in the caption as “garbage”. I am doing some decluttering and was thinking of donating (properly) to the Salvos, but given they are so quick to send things to the tip, I think I’ll choose someone else or stick to Freecycle!

Davo111 5:39 pm 13 Feb 11

JustThinking said :

How do you define????
Salvo’s needs to define what is trash and what isn’t.

mmmm i get what you mean. They have some guidelines on the bin (no mattresses, no furniture etc), but imho, if it doesnt fit in the bin, it shouldnt be left next to it on the ground. It gets picked over by the public, and gets rained on – making it unsuitable for sale.

JustThinking 4:43 pm 13 Feb 11

Davo111 said :

ML-585 said :

Define *huge*.

I can only find the fines for nsw, but i assume ACT is similar

$60 for littering (small items)
$200 general littering

If the fine was double that, most of which was given to that charity – it might send a message to the community that Charity Bin Dumping isnt appropriate.

I think an even larger fine for mattresses and furniture would be even better

How do you define????

The shit ripped shrt I donate will b sold in a bag for $12…as rags

Salvo’s needs to define what is trash and what isn’t.
Salvo’s in ACT took a computer years ago ( from an insurance company) that still had ppls names adresses and bank details on it…..i BOUGHT IT FOR $40…..

Davo111 2:35 pm 13 Feb 11

ML-585 said :

Define *huge*.

I can only find the fines for nsw, but i assume ACT is similar

$60 for littering (small items)
$200 general littering

If the fine was double that, most of which was given to that charity – it might send a message to the community that Charity Bin Dumping isnt appropriate.

I think an even larger fine for mattresses and furniture would be even better

JustThinking 1:35 pm 13 Feb 11

Jethro said :

dvaey said :

I also have to wonder if they considered sorting the rubbish and maybe offloading stuff to tinys green shed or revolve/aussie junk? Just because stuff is unsellable for them, doesnt mean its unsellable for anyone, especially if the ‘anyone’ is prepared to take it off your hands for free rather than you paying to take it to the tip. After all, if sorting rubbish is good enough for the rest of us, why isnt it good enough for the salvos?

This is one of the stupidest things I have read on here for a long time. To expect the Salvation Army to spend money sorting the trash that people are to cheap to pay to dispose of themselves is ridiculous. You’re post almost seems angry at the Salvos that they don’t want people putting crap all around their donation bins.

I disagree.
Most Salvo’s and other like places are staffed with volunteers (and some people on rehab courses or bonds etc) so hardly PAYING to sort stuff.
Trash is another thing I would like deciphered.
We used to always buys bags of rags for $12 per garbage bag from Salvo’s. Ripped clothing, ruined sheets etc. Also dog blankets which range from ripped blankets to stained doonas.

Most of that junk looks like boxes/bags that stuff would have been dropped off in.

Just because we think someones broken pram is garbage doesn’t mean everyone thinks it is. I remember they days when finding a broken pram was like finding GOLD because the wheels were far better than lawn mower wheels when making a billy cart!!

For the prices that most Salvo’s charge you would think they could sort/price a bit better. Funny how they have used school shirts with broken buttons etc for $7 and brand new ones next door are only $5.

Anna Key 7:42 pm 12 Feb 11

At my local shops, people don’t even seemed too shy about dumping crap around the bins. Maybe I should start taking the camera and loading up a few shots

Nightshade 2:31 pm 12 Feb 11

Jethro said :

dvaey said :

I also have to wonder if they considered sorting the rubbish and maybe offloading stuff to tinys green shed or revolve/aussie junk? Just because stuff is unsellable for them, doesnt mean its unsellable for anyone, especially if the ‘anyone’ is prepared to take it off your hands for free rather than you paying to take it to the tip. After all, if sorting rubbish is good enough for the rest of us, why isnt it good enough for the salvos?

This is one of the stupidest things I have read on here for a long time. To expect the Salvation Army to spend money sorting the trash that people are to cheap to pay to dispose of themselves is ridiculous. You’re post almost seems angry at the Salvos that they don’t want people putting crap all around their donation bins.

I don’t think this is a stupid comment at all. Charities do seem to very picky as to what they will accept, and under-estimate what people will find a use for for a suitably cheap price. Fine if they don’t want to give shop space to stuff they can’t sell for much, but why not let someone else have the stuff they don’t want rather than dumping it. They could have an arrangement with someone like Revolve to pick up every Monday afternoon, or simply let the public in to pick over the unwanted stuff once a week. Only the truly unusable items should be sent to the tip.

That’s the beauty of hard rubbish collections in cities that have them. By the time the entire neighbourhood has picked over everyone else’s discards, there is very little left to go to landfill. Recycling at it’s best.

Going back to the charities, the reality is that most of their donations will come on the weekend, because that’s when working people have time to take things to the collection point. If they *want* the donations, perhaps they could make it easier for people to make them e.g. having stores open for part of the weekend.

ML-585 2:12 pm 12 Feb 11

Davo111 said :

What would be interesting is if there was a law against placing rubbish around those bins, supported by a *huge* fine. It might be an incentive not to dump crap out there.

Define *huge*. There already is a law against placing rubbish around charity bins (it’s called littering). Refer here: http://www.tams.act.gov.au/live/recycling-waste/options/recycling_reusable_items/charities

Davo111 10:43 am 12 Feb 11

I agree with grail’s comment, they’re between a rock and a hard place.

My guess is they get most of their donations via the bins, so having a store drop off only method would reduce the number of donations. However, having the bins results in a tonne of rubbish.

What would be interesting is if there was a law against placing rubbish around those bins, supported by a *huge* fine. It might be an incentive not to dump crap out there.

cleo 12:18 am 12 Feb 11

There has been so many people that have dumped their rubbish at the bins, that I’m beginning to think they should do away with the charity bins.

Golden-Alpine 8:17 pm 11 Feb 11

I wonder what the effect would be on the charities if they removed the charity bins completely and only had the option to drop off at a store. The vinnies at Gungahlin has a wheelie bin out the front, the last lot of clothes we donated I just dropped straight in there. I think those that are genuine and are dropping off useful items would go out of their way.

I-filed 8:09 pm 11 Feb 11

Strange scene at St Vinnies Dickson today – a mother&daughter pair of probable hoarders arrived and donated 20 huge plastic bags of nondescript cr*p (cleanish), and leaned three worn rugs up against the bins outside in the rain. OK that was nice of them to donate – but then they went around the shop and bought an enormous quantity (two bags each) of more similar random cr*p! (little plastic thinggies, nondescript china, $2 clothes … ).

Jethro 8:05 pm 11 Feb 11

dvaey said :

I also have to wonder if they considered sorting the rubbish and maybe offloading stuff to tinys green shed or revolve/aussie junk? Just because stuff is unsellable for them, doesnt mean its unsellable for anyone, especially if the ‘anyone’ is prepared to take it off your hands for free rather than you paying to take it to the tip. After all, if sorting rubbish is good enough for the rest of us, why isnt it good enough for the salvos?

This is one of the stupidest things I have read on here for a long time. To expect the Salvation Army to spend money sorting the trash that people are to cheap to pay to dispose of themselves is ridiculous. You’re post almost seems angry at the Salvos that they don’t want people putting crap all around their donation bins.

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