Witches versus happy clappy nutballs! It’s On!

johnboy 28 September 2009 82

Earlier in the month many of you got very excited about plans by a victorian christian group (In my opinion weird evangelical cultists) to truck in to Canberra and wage “spiritual warfare” against Canberra’s wiccans and pagans.

Now someone calling themselves MtAinslieWitches has posted the above call to arms on YouTube asking local witches and pagans, and those who support their right to be witches and pagans, to counter rally up on Mr Ainslie on 17 October.

It’s going to be an interesting day.

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bileduct bileduct 7:27 pm 27 Oct 09

Which ones were which? They were all nutballs.

Thumper Thumper 6:34 pm 27 Oct 09

sarcasm tags lacking..

Skidbladnir Skidbladnir 5:22 pm 27 Oct 09

Thumper, I say you’re wrong…
They’re fundamentalists first, Christians somewhere after that.

GB GB 4:04 pm 27 Oct 09

Thumper said :

Fundamentalist christians are fundamentally christian.

Much of the evidence would indicate otherwise. Fundamentalists of all kinds tend to place more value on their fundamentalism than on the core values of the thing they are fundamentalist about.

Or, looked at another way, Fundamentalist christians have a different definition of “Christian”; with “aspiring to act with same moral integrity as Christ” being very low on the priority list.

Postalgeek Postalgeek 3:28 pm 27 Oct 09

Thanks Anne Elk

Thumper Thumper 1:49 pm 27 Oct 09

I have a theory.

Fundamentalist christians are fundamentally christian.

That’s it.

loresev loresev 11:59 am 27 Oct 09

Fundamentalist Christians do not know the meaning of tolerance despite the example of Jesus.

The problem with the bible is its conflicting messages of tolerance and extreme intolerance particularly in the old testament … or the period of ‘law’ as opposed to the so called period of ‘grace’ which is what the New testament was supposed to herald in.

They have a sure conviction that they are right and believe that this world is quickly coming to an end as per the ‘types and shadows’ of the OT and the book of revelations which they take literally to describe the imminent end of all things (eschatology)

These nutters feel more and more threatened every time they see a natural disaster, as this is one of the end time ‘signs’ spoken about in the bible. As far as I am concerned, if the world does come to an end, it will no doubt be because human beings have brought it upon themselves by their abuse of power and the environment …we wont need to blame God or Satan. The fundamentalists in the USA have BOASTED that they are helping God to herald in the end of the world by their involvement in the middle East … make no mistake … some of these nutters (including past presidents and Army generals) WANT world war 3, as they believe it will make Jesus come back. Don’t make the mistake of thinking the Americans are the good guys compared with the Islamists … they aint! They may well self fulfil their own warped prophecy.

Christian fundamentalists are becoming terrorists … in the USA against abortion clinics and doctors and I have no doubt it will get worse. I have also seen the terror they visit on their own congregations in the various church cults in this country.

I am a Christian fundamentalist cult survivor, so I should know.

I think gathering in covens and calling yourself a witch is just as nutty. The Christians don’t realise (and neither do some modern witches)that the idea of the witch in our culture was an invention of the Roman Catholic Church, coming from a deep misogyny and an intolerance for so called pagan ideas.

I can understand women in particular wanting to band together in some kind of organisation to counter this but Wicca? Grow up. Just give the whole religion bullshit a big miss … Christian or pagan, and concentrate on living ethically and with real tolerance.

By the way, some evil idiots have killed babies and goats and so on in the past and claimed to be witches. They are not satanists … just criminally insane. Satan has nothing to do with it … this is where the Christians go wrong … we have no one to blame but ourselves.

And the stuff on Mt Ainslie? RUST

Dante Dante 3:13 pm 12 Oct 09

And this finally hits news.com.au today.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26197992-421,00.html

georgesgenitals georgesgenitals 4:51 pm 09 Oct 09

johnboy said :

Ever considered the impacts of vilification housebound?

Most folks consider it to be a pretty big deal.

And yes, it does matter who did it first.

More important is who lives here and who is blow ins. This is our community under attack by yokels from a long way away.

You might be grasping for reasons to support some sort of ugly knee jerk conservatism but I’m not having a bar of it.

Angry, huh?

Vanilla Bean Vanilla Bean 4:30 pm 07 Oct 09

Wow. Just imagine the merchandising opportunities!! I had something on the 17th but I think I’ll clear the diary, drag out the black corsetry and see if John Safran can come with me.

I-filed I-filed 10:10 am 03 Oct 09

Mind you, the hardcore atheist evangelists can be pretty uninspiring people .Richard Dawkins case in point. Hardly a humanist! (and no I’m not a Christian)

johnboy johnboy 1:32 am 03 Oct 09

Ever considered the impacts of vilification housebound?

Most folks consider it to be a pretty big deal.

And yes, it does matter who did it first.

More important is who lives here and who is blow ins. This is our community under attack by yokels from a long way away.

You might be grasping for reasons to support some sort of ugly knee jerk conservatism but I’m not having a bar of it.

housebound housebound 9:36 pm 02 Oct 09

My understanding is that “spiritual warfare” is praying against spirits. No more – but sometimes in groups, and sometimes because someone misidentifies red wine as blood and gets people going. (Why hasn’t their God told them this then?)

Someone in the previous thread went to the trouble to look up their weapons:

Pommy bastard said :

Oh and I notice that their main weapons* are going to be; “repentance, prayer, and worship”

So how scary is that!

fabforty fabforty 8:17 pm 02 Oct 09

housebound said :

This thread is one-sided. What a tolerant bunch we are.

A group threatens to come here and PRAY, and people feel all threatened. If their God isn’t as real or powerful as they claim, why all the angst?

Umm… no. I believe the term used was “offensive spiritual warfare”. I believe that is slightly more threatening than “we are coming to pray”.

What I find so offensive is their unprovoked attack on a group who have done nothing more than practice beliefs other than their own. Isn’t that the basis of terrorism ?

Danman Danman 6:27 pm 02 Oct 09

I propose something like this to truly freak EVERYONE out.

Who is with me ?

housebound housebound 3:52 pm 02 Oct 09

They picked a fight by telling people they would come to pray – using rather violent language – but in effect harmless (unless singing, repenting and clapping and whatever else they pray does more than we know). Why would anyone need to defend themselves against that?

Jim Jones Jim Jones 3:00 pm 02 Oct 09

Oh bollocks, VY.

One bunch of nasty, bigoted, self-righteous nutballs picked a fight with a bunch of largely harmless hippy loons and rightfully copped a verbal flogging on this forum.

For some reason you want to have a go at the hippies because they’ve had the balls to stick up for themselves against these nasty b@stards.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy 12:36 pm 02 Oct 09

caf said :

What it means dear VY is that so far we have seen nothing from either side beyond violent language, and I know which side started throwing that around. It’s a bit rich to then start complaining about it.

I agree, dear Caf. But violent language does not equal physical violence. My argument all along is simply that one group of nutballs has copped a flogging here, whereas the other group of nutballs (who has also used violent and bigoted language) seem to have successfully played the victim.

And I think that’s sloppy debate.

And by the way, arguing about ‘who started it’ kinda reminds me of kindagarten…

caf caf 10:46 am 02 Oct 09

What it means dear VY is that so far we have seen nothing from either side beyond violent language, and I know which side started throwing that around. It’s a bit rich to then start complaining about it.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 10:32 am 02 Oct 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

caf said :

VY, I’d just look at who it was who started throwing around terms like “spiritual warfare” in this case. Live by the flaming sword…

Which means what, exactly? My understanding is that the term ‘spiritual warfare’ refers to rites invoking spiritual activity, and has nothing to do with physical violence.

What’s your argument? That it’s okay to be a bigoted arseh0le just so long as you’re not violent?

I remain unconvinced.

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