Woden CIT, Interchange road plan under fire

Ian Bushnell 17 March 2021 42
Woden Bus Interchange

Woden Bus Interchange, looking towards Westfield. Photo: File.

Woden Valley Community Council president Fiona Carrick has slammed a proposal to extend a road across the current bus interchange site in Woden where there is meant to be a pedestrian boulevard from the new CIT and Interchange to the Woden Square.

The proposed Bradley and Bowes Street link would mean pedestrians having to cross a busy road as they head to and from the Square, Westfield shopping centre and the Library.

The road extension was recommended in the traffic study included in the new Woden Interchange development application lodged last month.

Already set to be upgraded from local to collector roads to provide access to the new CIT on one side and Grand Central Towers on the other, connecting the two streets would create a continuous route from Callum Street to Launceston Street.

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Traffic is expected to surge along surrounding streets including Bowes Street due to the closure of Callum Street, and the traffic study suggests using traffic calming devices and lowering speed limits in the area, particularly near pedestrian thoroughfares.

It recommends the extension of Bradley Street to Bowes Street to alleviate the increased vehicle movements towards Launceston Street.

Ms Carrick said the proposal flowed from the decision to build the interchange on Callum Street, which will cut the major link between Hindmarsh Drive and Launceston Street and necessitate diversions up Bradley Street, and Wilbow Street through to Easty Street.

Proposed new layout

A map showing how the proposed new layout might work. Image: CIT Design Report, 2020.

Ms Carrick said the road proposal was part of a planning mess that would disrupt the east-west pedestrian corridor, clog the area with traffic and be detrimental to the function of the Town Centre.

“You’re just blocking up the centre of Woden when that should be open and free for the people,” she said.

Ms Carrick said it was also being driven by the need for more access to and from the newly completed Grand Central Towers on the northern side of the current interchange.

She mocked the notion of a boulevarde when it will be cut by a road, shaded by Grand Central Towers and the morning sun will be blocked by the new CIT.

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“Would you hang out there? Would you be attracted to that area in the shade and cold?” she asked.

While the interchange may be dilapidated, she said its loop system, a common feature of bus interchanges, actually functioned very well as far as bus movements go.

“Why are they getting rid of the bus loop and putting everything through this eye of a needle [in Callum Street]?” she said.

Proposed new Woden Interchange

An artist’s impression of the proposed new Woden Interchange. Image: ACT Government.

Ms Carrick said that Callum Street would have to be widened to fit the light rail station and the designs showed the new interchange virtually on top of the Woden Town Park rose garden near where the proposed youth centre is supposed to be sited.

“It’s no wonder they’ve gone quiet on the community centre because that was supposed to be between Callum Street and the drain [Yarralumla Creek],” she said.

Ms Carrick said the government was trying to cram too much into a limited space.

The government has allowed more time for people to comment with the representation period for the interchange, bus layovers, and drivers’ amenity building DAs extended until 16 April.

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42 Responses to Woden CIT, Interchange road plan under fire
ChrisinTurner ChrisinTurner 9:55 am 19 Mar 21

In Amsterdam buses and trams share platforms in many places. This makes changing modes simple and efficient. People step off their tram from the city centre and their connecting bus pulls in behind the departing tram.

    Capital Retro Capital Retro 12:19 pm 19 Mar 21

    I thought everybody rode bicycles in Amsterdam.

Fiona Carrick Fiona Carrick 7:45 pm 18 Mar 21

We need to look at the traffic modelling to be informed.
VLC Bus Network and Infrastructure Requirements
• “the design brings up numerous safety concerns, regarding which it is suggested that an Operational Risk Assessment is performed to determine whether the facility can operate safely. These are outlined in the following two sections, including potential options for mitigation. While we can flag potential risks as we see them, VLC do not have the engineering qualifications to be able to provide final recommendations regarding the safety of this design. We advise seeking a qualified engineer to provide a more detailed risk assessment.” p40
Types of interchanges across Australia
• Buses run perpendicular to trams, Civic, Gungahlin, Glenelg
• Loop to side of trams, Newcastle, Helensvale (Qld)
• Buses and trams share platform, Kingsford (NSW), Broadbeach (Qld)
• Buses on surrounding streets, Dulwich Hill, Randwick (NSW)
If anyone is aware of a design like Woden’s would they please let me know.
Jacobs CIT Woden Transport Interchange
• “The future transport network of Woden Town Centre should aspire to both respond to the place making priorities and movement requirements of the area. To meet the growing demand in Woden town Centre, network development must be flexible and with a clear outlook of what is required in the future.” p69
• A wider Movement and Place study for Woden Town Centre (at a precinct level), should be undertaken to establish and agree on the role of different roads within Woden and establish an implementation plan to ensure the roads correctly align with their proposed classification.” p78
Traffic volumes along Easty, Wilbow and Bowes streets will surge because of the closure of Callam St. Bradley St will be connected to Bowes St with traffic flowing across the bottom of the stairs to the Town Square.

    Jorge Garcia Jorge Garcia 12:54 am 19 Mar 21

    Buses perpendicular to Trams (as in Civic) is awful… People running across the street against the traffic light is a common occurrence. The other options do not appear to be feasible to me, as they would involve tearing down existing community values such as the youth center.

    The fact that it has not been done quite like it anywhere else does not mean it can’t work. Unique problems require unique solutions.

    Right now the main use of Callam Street is to access the car parks. The neighboring streets are already busy with traffic as they are needed to access Callam street before accessing the carparks.

    I’m not sure how modelling is going to help… Too many assumptions and guessing about volumes of people using CIT etc… All over the world cities are closing streets to traffic to allow public transport hubs and shared pedestrian/service vehicles – that has been shown to work very well.

    There will be pros and cons to every proposal… In the end I keep coming back to the thought that this is a vast improvement on what’s there right now.

Jorge Garcia Jorge Garcia 4:50 pm 18 Mar 21

I have a lot of time for Fiona Carrick, as I agree that there has been too much unfettered development leading to some very big disasters – as reported elsewhere in the RiotACT on several occasions.

However I have looked over the proposal and I have to admit that it looks like it’s a vast improvement on what’s currently there. Bringing the light rail and the CIT into that area alongside the buses that service the area is a stroke of genius, and has the potential of making a currently dead and barren business district into one that is lively accessible and well subscribed.

What would change Fiona’s mind I wonder? Removing the one way lane servicing the towers? (unfair) Removing the CIT? (what a catastrophe that would be!!!) – Removing the light rail terminal and bus interchange?? (these are essential – particularly to service the CIT and he higher density housing already in Woden – light rail to the South will transform this city)

Sorry Fiona, on this occasion I think that you protest too much…

Robauz Robauz 4:49 pm 18 Mar 21

It’s hard to believe anyone is supportive of the current hideous loop bus interchange in Woden. As the revamped bus interchange in Belconnen has shown, a straight line through system is quick and efficient. Currently a bus from civic to Tuggeranong has to three left turns to stop. The current interchange is dangerous, dark, ugly and vile. The quicker the eyesore is demolished the better.

    Fiona Carrick Fiona Carrick 11:08 pm 18 Mar 21

    Bus movements – see p21 of the VLC traffic modelling report

    It is interesting to follow the bus movements through the interchange and layovers.
    The traffic modellers forecast 124 buses per hour heading north and 122 heading south in future morning peaks. There will be three double bay stops operating head of queue services (that means first bus in is the first bus out) on the west side and 4 bays on the east side. Buses cannot wait for their next run because that will clog up the interchange. Buses will layover at Phillip Oval and Easty St between services.

    Easty St layover (east side) – buses travelling north will access the layover with a right onto Launceston, right onto Easty then right onto Wilbow to head north again. Buses travelling south will drop passengers on the east side of Callam St then left onto Wilbow, do a U turn at the roundabout, then right onto Callam (through the interchange), right onto Launceston and right onto Easty to the layover.

    Phillip Oval layover – buses heading north go straight to the layover but to continue north (and pick up passengers) they need to turn left onto Launceston, right onto Easty, right onto Wilbow then right through the interchange. Buses heading south drop passengers on the east side then turn left onto Wilbow, left onto Easty and left on to Launceston to get to the layover.

    The existing loop is functional and can be upgraded for amenity. Buses from the south enter the loop, drop passengers and pick them up (between the town square and the interchange) then head south again without passing through the interchange. This is better than walking to the east side of Callam St (across busy bus and tram movements) to catch a bus south.

ChrisinTurner ChrisinTurner 2:53 pm 18 Mar 21

Imagine what we would get if the city planners only spoke to the community and the developers were kept out.

realist realist 1:52 pm 18 Mar 21

I do not have a problem with the Light Rail coming to Woden. The problem I have is the incredible bad planning that Canberra has had to suffer for at least 10 years. This is another classic example. It is all very well to say the idea is to reduce reliance on cars, that will not happen. They will be cutting Callum Street of completely to cars and the streets they intend to use are not capable of handling the added traffic. I would not like to have bought into Grand Central Towers – OH that’s right these people wont have cars.

    Heavs Heavs 2:33 pm 18 Mar 21

    Grand Central Towers were advertising the joint with a big whopping banner saying “Light Rail Stops Here!!”. I reckon they’ll be OK.

    Fiona Carrick Fiona Carrick 11:13 pm 18 Mar 21

    They will be ok if they want to go to the city. What if they do shift work somewhere else in Canberra, what if they need to take a child to basketball in Belconnen at 8pm on a Sunday night? Don’t forget our basketball stadium was demolished so we cannot walk to indoor recreation, or any culture for that matter.

    underwhelmed underwhelmed 10:45 am 19 Mar 21

    Hi Fiona, Why do you keep bring up that the people in Woden need to go to Belconnen to access basketball? Located just over the hill, and only short bike ride/bus trip/car drive, is the Tuggeraong basketball stadium.

chewy14 chewy14 11:06 am 18 Mar 21

I’ve been a vocal opponent of the light rail on economic reasons but the upgrading of this area and reducing future car traffic makes perfect sense from a planning and transport perspective.

The whole idea is to reduce the reliance on car usage in an area that will be well serviced by public transport. And it’s not like they are preventing cars from using the area totally, there will still be numerous other road options available to get in an out of the amenities in the area.

    Fiona Carrick Fiona Carrick 11:46 pm 18 Mar 21

    While reducing car movements is ideal it is difficult without amenity to walk to in the Town Centre. We have lost the basketball stadium, bowling greens, tennis courts, pitch n putt and the pool and ice rink are the next to go. We do not have a community centre or an arts centre. We are also at risk of losing the service area in Phillip with Magnet Mart and its garden centre closed.
    Some people can manage without a car but for many in Woden a car is necessary to get to services and facilities.
    Traffic from residential towers should be directed out of the town centre so the internal streets can be shared (like Bunda St) with active fronts and restaurants and cafes. Unfortunately, the new bus interchange will direct traffic along the bottom of the town square stairs and along Bowes St, turning it from a local road (in the traffic hierarchy) to a major collector.
    VLC traffic modelling p 70 – “The Woden Town Centre network would greatly benefit from adopting the Movement and Place framework to guide future planning and design, allowing the Town Centre to move towards a more forward-thinking and innovative approach to integrated transport and landscape.”
    I hope we listen to the transport modellers about how we can do things better.

    underwhelmed underwhelmed 12:50 pm 19 Mar 21

    The reason that Woden has lost these facilities is they weren’t viable, as Woden doesn’t have the feeder population to support them. As they say, use it or lose it.

Robert Azzopardi Robert Azzopardi 9:04 am 18 Mar 21

I don’t live in the area but I have attended a few WVCC meetings chaired by Fiona Carrick.

My impressions were that they are an anti-development group of generally elderly people that, I’m sure, do not reflect the views of people they “represent”.

The Woden Town Centre would be a ghost town if these people were to be taken seriously.

    Woden Valley Woden Valley 11:59 pm 18 Mar 21

    I am afraid you do not understand our message Robert, we are not anti development , we just want it to be done well. We advocate for a balance between homes, jobs, public spaces and community facilities. In addition to the tram, the City Renewal Authority is going to great lengths to make the city a place that has a vibe that attracts people to it. There are residential towers around the city but not around Garema Place to ensure it is not overshadowed. The zoning of 28 storey residential towers around the Woden Town Square will over shadow it and people will scurry through it which is not good for community or small business.

    Robert Azzopardi Robert Azzopardi 9:45 am 19 Mar 21

    Woden Valley I think you missed my point .. “do not reflect the views of people they “represent” .. which includes residents and business.

    With regard to your last comment .. if I were a small business I would be eternally grateful to residents that occupy those 28 storey towers for sustaining my business .. the alternative being vacant shops due to a lack of local patronage.

    I would also add that those 28 storey towers equate to another suburb that does not have to be built on the city fringes where once existed green pasture but now increasingly paved with bitumen.

    Robert Azzopardi Robert Azzopardi 10:01 am 19 Mar 21

    Woden Valley seems nothing has changed at the WVCC concerning light rail. The last time I attended a meeting was in relation to LR, the over whelmimg response from the floor (and chair) was that LR would be a big white elephant. Well hello alleluia it has been a roaring success.

    Now the rhetoric from the WVCC is targeting the partial closure of a road that serves cars due to the well overdue construction of the bus / light rail interchange.

    “Hail the car” I hear from the floor.

bd84 bd84 10:14 pm 17 Mar 21

It is an idiotic plan to block off a major road thoroughfare and essentially divide the town centre in two halves. The modelling shows it will put excessive pressure on the on already at capacity surrounding roads and seemingly ignored that there’s a police station on the road with police needing to respond to emergencies speeding through the interchange, needing to disburse traffic from Woden Plaza both north and south, residents, school students and workers who will pointlessly need to circle the town centre to come and go.

But then I have little or no confidence that the Government will pay any attention concerns about stupid plans and will just dismiss and carry on doing whatever they want.

    chewy14 chewy14 11:02 am 18 Mar 21

    The whole point is that it isn’t going to be a major road thoroughfare into the future and cars will slowly be reduced from entering the area, the same way has occurred in Gungahlin with the light rail. There are other road options available, which is what they will push you to use in the future.

    The Police will still also be able to use Callam St so it doesn’t really affect their operations at all.

    Fiona Carrick Fiona Carrick 12:07 am 19 Mar 21

    That is interesting. Does the closure of Hibberson St for light rail (noting there are no buses around it) push cars into the town centre changing local roads into major collector roads in the centre like our Bowes St. Did they lose their opportunity for active fronts –
    a type of Bunda St arrangement? It would be ok if the cars were pushed out of the town centre instead of into it (noting they will also be pushed onto Easty St and Melrose Drive)

Bill Gemmell Bill Gemmell 8:43 pm 17 Mar 21

I am not sure what halucegenic substances this group took in their younger days, but from this rant I am glad I missed out. They want to be developed as the jewel of the south, a "Planet Woden" if you like. They then oppose all the things that come with it, like a modern transport interchange.

Ffs, moving people, public transport vehicles and your average crazed Canberra motorist are not compatible. Therefore, Callum St is being closed off and people like Fiona Carrick will need to make alternative arrangements. Maybe, just maybe, she could try the bus! The early morning 80 km/h run along Callum St will be a thing of the past. Time to move on. This lot could be very useful if they tried to influence design, rather than display total opposition.

Oh, almost forgot. The Woden bus interchange was beyond its use by date 30 years ago. It still is! If in doubt, ask anyone who has used it.

    Martin Miller Martin Miller 10:12 am 18 Mar 21

    Bill Gemmell Good to see you like your own comment Bill. Yes we are all askiing for a better design, like all weather protection, which was the number 1 concern on there recent poll of a 1500 people or so by ACT Government yet the designers have not changed a thing . Ms Carrick got more than twice that many votes in the 2020 ACT Election . This is not a modern interchange that they are proposing particularly if they want to increase patronage on public transport. What do mordern interchanges look like...

    Bill Gemmell Bill Gemmell 2:58 pm 18 Mar 21

    Martin Miller thanks for participating. Your comments are at odds with your chairs? Do I detect a schism?

    Martin Miller Martin Miller 3:01 pm 18 Mar 21

    Bill Gemmell I agree with her on the design issues !

    Bill Gemmell Bill Gemmell 3:03 pm 18 Mar 21

    Martin Miller and Callum St closure?

    Martin Miller Martin Miller 3:27 pm 18 Mar 21

    Bill Gemmell We will see, she makes a good point about the other interchanges in the ACT being seperate to the Light rail stations. Callam St has always been 60km/h . Light rail wont reach 80km/h on Yarra Glen or Adelaide Ave !

    Bill Gemmell Bill Gemmell 3:30 pm 18 Mar 21

    Martin Miller a sign on a post does not determine actual speed. Next thing you will be telling us about virtues of the 12 minute commute by articulated bus.

    Martin Miller Martin Miller 3:40 pm 18 Mar 21

    Bill Gemmell Average speed is the measure stick and what is mentioined in transport studies But Buses seperated from traffic do regularly go at that speed. https://youtu.be/FfdVJuntM8A

    Ashley Wright Ashley Wright 6:00 pm 18 Mar 21

    Martin Miller the lightrail vehicles used here can do 70 which is of course less than the 80 buses do. But it is irrelevant anyway. A difference of 10km/h over the distance of Adelaide avenue is negligible and besides on key difference is light rail won’t be express.

    I know people are whinging about that but I would look at it this way. The city to Belconnen used to be express and took 15 minutes. They changed it to go through College street and past the hospital which added time to that trip which with congestion is now out to about 25 minutes but the service is busier than it was before and serves a lot more people.

    Martin Miller Martin Miller 8:39 pm 18 Mar 21

    Ashley Wright that bus goes to Woden and Tuggeranong and reverse. One Bus and It always used to pass the Hospital (Calvary). When light rail gets to Woden you will have transition 2 times. Much much slower overall.

    Bill Gemmell Bill Gemmell 10:09 pm 18 Mar 21

    Martin Miller so WVCC supports buses exceeding the speed limit on Adelaide Ave, to achieve a higher average speed than light rail? BTW, the pannier bag on the clunker should have been removed by the cyclist and the bus should not have left until it was.

    Martin Miller Martin Miller 10:34 pm 18 Mar 21

    Bill Gemmell I'm not part of WVCC . But no where have I mentioned exceeding speed limits. These panniers are empty and securely fixed to the bike. My bike infact. If they don't fall off when you are cycling along bumpy shared paths they won't fall off on the bus bike rack.

    Bill Gemmell Bill Gemmell 10:35 pm 18 Mar 21

    Martin Miller why did you leave WVCC?

    Martin Miller Martin Miller 10:36 pm 18 Mar 21

    Bill Gemmell 10yrs plus for personal reasons.

    Bill Gemmell Bill Gemmell 10:39 pm 18 Mar 21

    Martin Miller I will leave that for others to judge.

HiddenDragon HiddenDragon 8:10 pm 17 Mar 21

All of this unhelpfully logical criticism of what’s in store for the Woden town centre will, of course, be dismissed as nothing more than the backward-looking negativity of NIMBYs, BANANAs and ok, Boomers etc.

On a point of detail, the street at the heart of this debate is probably named after this First Fleet surgeon –


not after a British boy band member.

Jp Romano Jp Romano 7:46 pm 17 Mar 21

Another statement from a group which is hardly representative. How can you cram too much into a CBD? Would you prefer sky high buildings in the suburbs?

Again if we’re forking out $2bn in ratepayer dollars for light rail I want as much crammed into both Civic and Woden to make the route as profitable as possible.

    Martin Miller Martin Miller 10:16 am 18 Mar 21

    Jp Romano If you want a livable city then its not how high the buildings are but the spaces between them! Something that you continually fail to understand! Stick to Manuka mate!

    Mark Dando Mark Dando 5:11 pm 18 Mar 21

    Martin Miller I'm inclined to agree that what makes a city livable is the spaces between buildings. Canberra's modernist planners of the 1960s got this wrong - they spaced everything out too much to the extent Canberra was becoming environmentally and economically unsustainable. Too much dried out grass posing as bush or parkland, too many 'towns' with not enough people and govt employers to support them. Thankfully the current investments by developers and apartment owners and the ACT govt in CIT and light rail is addressing the earlier failures that has led to the hollowing out of Woden centre as govt agencies left.

Heavs Heavs 7:01 pm 17 Mar 21

Definitely representative of the entire Woden community. Elected in a landslide. Probably should call the whole thing off.

This is Costigan level stuff.

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