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WorkSafe ban on ACTEW

By daniel_c - 7 November 2012 19

I’m badly affected by this as my house is ready to move in but no power… still in apartment with huge mortgage/rent/storage costs etc…. can’t shop around for power as we stuck with ACTEW monopoly in Canberra…

Anyone else affected?

[ED – The SMH has a story on this]

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thehutch 10:05 pm 08 Nov 12

JC said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

What part of if actewagl was owned and ran by act government would be safer, cheaper and better for canberra as a whole do you not understand?

and?

Hang on a second. ACTEWAGL is a joint venture for marketing purposes between the government owned ACTEW corporation and the private Jemena who own the AGL brand.

When it comes to maintenance and connection of the respective supplies, ACTEW does the power and Jemena the gas. In other words at the physical end nothing has changed.

So from a power perspective ACTEW is 100% government owned, so that kinda throws your theory out the window.

Your statement is wrong. Jemena do not own the AGL brand… AGL is a listed company on the stock market. Jemena is a business owned by SP Ausnet.

Actew and Jemena own 50/50 of the Distribution business
Actew and AGL own 50/50 of Retail business

JC 7:25 am 08 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

What part of if actewagl was owned and ran by act government would be safer, cheaper and better for canberra as a whole do you not understand?

and?

Hang on a second. ACTEWAGL is a joint venture for marketing purposes between the government owned ACTEW corporation and the private Jemena who own the AGL brand.

When it comes to maintenance and connection of the respective supplies, ACTEW does the power and Jemena the gas. In other words at the physical end nothing has changed.

So from a power perspective ACTEW is 100% government owned, so that kinda throws your theory out the window.

Pork Hunt 10:55 pm 07 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Pork Hunt said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

thehutch said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

chewy14 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Why?

Well firstly, better and more strict ohs training

I don’t believe the old fully Government owned ‘Actew’ ever ran a gas operation. Though I may be wrong on this.

But if they did?

What part of ACT Electricity and Water sans gas don’t you understand?

What part of if actewagl was owned and ran by act government would be safer, cheaper and better for canberra as a whole do you not understand?

Silence, I am asking the questions here. Cheaper, yes. Not necessarily the other two.

deye 9:44 pm 07 Nov 12

If ACTEW is prohibited from doing those earthworks, why can’t they engage someone else who has had the required training to carry out that part of the job until their own staff have completed the training.

Surely the expense would be less than the cost of the ongoing bad publicity.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 8:33 pm 07 Nov 12

Pork Hunt said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

thehutch said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

chewy14 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Why?

Well firstly, better and more strict ohs training

I don’t believe the old fully Government owned ‘Actew’ ever ran a gas operation. Though I may be wrong on this.

But if they did?

What part of ACT Electricity and Water sans gas don’t you understand?

What part of if actewagl was owned and ran by act government would be safer, cheaper and better for canberra as a whole do you not understand?

Pork Hunt 7:52 pm 07 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

thehutch said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

chewy14 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Why?

Well firstly, better and more strict ohs training

I don’t believe the old fully Government owned ‘Actew’ ever ran a gas operation. Though I may be wrong on this.

But if they did?

What part of ACT Electricity and Water sans gas don’t you understand?

JC 6:57 pm 07 Nov 12

thehutch said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

chewy14 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Why?

Well firstly, better and more strict ohs training

I don’t believe the old fully Government owned ‘Actew’ ever ran a gas operation. Though I may be wrong on this.

Correct. AGL was seperate, ACTEW as it’s name implies was water and electricity only.

JC 6:56 pm 07 Nov 12

What a pack of whingers. Really. Yes it isn’t good because your hookup has been delayed, but the issue is being caused by a knee jerk reaction by the safety regulator, not through any wrong doing, incompetence or monopoly behaviour by ACTEW AGL.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:11 pm 07 Nov 12

thehutch said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

chewy14 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Why?

Well firstly, better and more strict ohs training

I don’t believe the old fully Government owned ‘Actew’ ever ran a gas operation. Though I may be wrong on this.

But if they did?

thehutch 5:33 pm 07 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

chewy14 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Why?

Well firstly, better and more strict ohs training

I don’t believe the old fully Government owned ‘Actew’ ever ran a gas operation. Though I may be wrong on this.

gazmant 4:16 pm 07 Nov 12

I was fortunate enough that it hasn’t affected us with our building as we were wondering what the delay was. When I spoke to the woman at actewagl she was pretty scathing of the fact that they ran the gas and electricity to the same pit in the first place.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 2:41 pm 07 Nov 12

chewy14 said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Why?

Well firstly, better and more strict ohs training

chewy14 2:15 pm 07 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Why?

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 1:03 pm 07 Nov 12

thehutch said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

This is only one of the many reasons why this disgusting monopoly is bad for Canberra.

The ‘monopoly’ is irrelevant in this case as that relates to the retail business. This is a network (poles + wires) issue and I’m yet to know of a distrubition business that has competition anywhere in the country.

Don’t like ActewAGL billing you… switch to energyaustralia – but they have higher tarrifs

Would not be a issue if it was entirely government owned and ran.

Chop71 11:56 am 07 Nov 12

It may be costing you money but it also may be saving someones life

thehutch 10:30 am 07 Nov 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

This is only one of the many reasons why this disgusting monopoly is bad for Canberra.

The ‘monopoly’ is irrelevant in this case as that relates to the retail business. This is a network (poles + wires) issue and I’m yet to know of a distrubition business that has competition anywhere in the country.

Don’t like ActewAGL billing you… switch to energyaustralia – but they have higher tarrifs

Pork Hunt 9:33 am 07 Nov 12

If ACTEWAGL has been contracted to carry out certain work and then has a Workcover ban placed on those works, it doesn’t matter whether they have a monopoly or not.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 8:49 am 07 Nov 12

This is only one of the many reasons why this disgusting monopoly is bad for Canberra.

Tnut 7:50 am 07 Nov 12

I suggest you check out the cost of a temporary generator hook up

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