Your thoughts wanted on Kenny

johnboy 10 November 2011 32

Environment and Sustainable Development are asking for your input into the new Gungahlin suburb of Kenny which is getting underway next year:

“Kenny will ultimately accommodate around 3500 dwellings as well as commercial developments, community facilities and open space,” Mr Ponton said.

The ACT Government’s Indicative Land Release Program identifies land in Kenny to be released progressively from 2012–13.

“The purpose of this community consultation is to inform a planning and design framework to guide the development of Kenny.”

Mr Ponton said a display of maps, photographs and planning ideas for the new suburb will be available at the Gungahlin Marketplace between 10 am and 1 pm on Saturday 12 November 2011.


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shadow boxer shadow boxer 8:30 am 15 Nov 11

Ex Warrior said :

shadow boxer said :

Ex Warrior said :

montana said :

As usual we get negative comments from insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.

Oh and to add insult to injury these people live furthur from the city than these new suburbs being built.

Has the city moved and oh yeh they ceased building crappy boxes as well???
Somewhat confusing statement there Joey…

I think he is referring to the fact Tuggeranong and Charnwood are a lot further from the city than Gungahlin.

Apart from maybe some knock down rebuilds in the inner south canberra’s finest houses are clearly in Gungahlin.

And also the most convenient to be able to shake your next door neigbours hand without leaving your back step after they have another child which incidently has fark all b’yard to play in.
Seriously though there may be and prob are some good joints but you must admit the majority are ‘crappy boxes’

There are certainly a lot of crappy boxes, I guess when you get to 40,000 people you will get a variety.

There are a lot of crappy boxes in Banks as well and it wont be long before the formulaic apartments in the inner north and Belco are crappy boxes.

I’m just saying bag out our housing strategy by all means but just talking about Gungahlin as if it is the only place is wrong ( I was in Charnwood watching netball last night, my goodness get me out of there).

PrinceOfAles PrinceOfAles 11:16 pm 14 Nov 11

Who needs a backyard these days? All the kiddies want is an X-box and Foxtel. Even the dogs don`t want to be outside anymore.

Ex Warrior Ex Warrior 10:13 pm 14 Nov 11

shadow boxer said :

Ex Warrior said :

montana said :

As usual we get negative comments from insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.

Oh and to add insult to injury these people live furthur from the city than these new suburbs being built.

Has the city moved and oh yeh they ceased building crappy boxes as well???
Somewhat confusing statement there Joey…

I think he is referring to the fact Tuggeranong and Charnwood are a lot further from the city than Gungahlin.

Apart from maybe some knock down rebuilds in the inner south canberra’s finest houses are clearly in Gungahlin.

And also the most convenient to be able to shake your next door neigbours hand without leaving your back step after they have another child which incidently has fark all b’yard to play in.
Seriously though there may be and prob are some good joints but you must admit the majority are ‘crappy boxes’

poetix poetix 4:18 pm 14 Nov 11

Holden Caulfield said :

poetix said :

Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean here. Who or what was Benitez?

It’s okay, I wasn’t sucked in by the Rafalution either. It’s perfectly understandable that you don’t know who he is.

Just remember, blue is the colour.

This took me ages on Google as I’m a bit third division, ‘Citizen’ Caulfield. If there was a special Cup for obscure sporting references, I’d nominate you. (I may still be lost between Man City and Milan and Liverpool, but it’s a long way from Gungahlin.)

shadow boxer shadow boxer 3:58 pm 14 Nov 11

Ex Warrior said :

montana said :

As usual we get negative comments from insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.

Oh and to add insult to injury these people live furthur from the city than these new suburbs being built.

Has the city moved and oh yeh they ceased building crappy boxes as well???
Somewhat confusing statement there Joey…

I think he is referring to the fact Tuggeranong and Charnwood are a lot further from the city than Gungahlin.

Apart from maybe some knock down rebuilds in the inner south canberra’s finest houses are clearly in Gungahlin.

Ex Warrior Ex Warrior 3:11 pm 14 Nov 11

montana said :

As usual we get negative comments from insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.

Oh and to add insult to injury these people live furthur from the city than these new suburbs being built.

Has the city moved and oh yeh they ceased building crappy boxes as well???
Somewhat confusing statement there Joey…

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 2:56 pm 14 Nov 11

poetix said :

Sorry, I don’t understand what you mean here. Who or what was Benitez?

It’s okay, I wasn’t sucked in by the Rafalution either. It’s perfectly understandable that you don’t know who he is.

Just remember, blue is the colour.

mickey mickey 2:43 pm 14 Nov 11

ESDD_Comms said :

We love this discussion about Kenny. Please feel free to fill in our Kenny survey at http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/kenny or send your comments directly to ESDD_Communications@act.gov.au.

http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/25843/20111110_Directorate_media_release_-_Help_plan_the_new_suburb_of_Kenny.pdf

Horse Park Road??? When was the name changed?

ESDD_Comms ESDD_Comms 1:22 pm 14 Nov 11

We love this discussion about Kenny. Please feel free to fill in our Kenny survey at http://www.actpla.act.gov.au/kenny or send your comments directly to ESDD_Communications@act.gov.au.

Jethro Jethro 10:16 pm 11 Nov 11

Watson said :

The choice is more: do I buy an older “renovators’ dream” on a larger block in an existing suburb or do I play it safe and buy a brand new house on a small block in a new suburb for the same price. And if you don’t have the finances for renovations and repairs on top of the mortgage, that is not a real choice either.

I’m not sure if that it is the choice. You can buy a perfectly good 25 year old house in a suburb named after an ex-PM and not have to worry about a thing. There is a fair bit of evidence that some of the major construction companies are cutting corners and building houses that simply do not last. People are moving into new houses that already have problems and these problems only become worse. I personally know tradies who are making a killing doing nothing but repairs in houses that are only 3 or 4 years old. Likewise, I know plenty of investors who wouldn’t buy a new place in a fit, as they know they are taking too much of a risk with the building quality.

Classified Classified 10:01 pm 11 Nov 11

dpm said :

montana said :

As usual we get negative comments from insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.

Oh and to add insult to injury these people live furthur from the city than these new suburbs being built.

Yes, you can certainly tell which type each of the posters in this thread are!
a) the “insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.”
b) the insecure people who bought new “crappy little box houses” or apartments….

Both tyes of suburb/housing have their failings! Can’t we all just get along?? Hahaha! 🙂

What about those people that actually have nice homes?

Jethro Jethro 9:28 pm 11 Nov 11

fabforty said :

But for what it is worth, I will be adding “keep the Village Building Company out of it or it will be nothing but endless rabbit hutches as previously seen”.

+ eleventy zillion

Some of the houses in West Macgregor look like bomb shelters. Seriously.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 6:07 pm 11 Nov 11

Watson said :

shadow boxer said :

farq said :

fabforty said :

Pfft…as if they haven’t got this planned already. This is merely so someone can tick the “community consultation” box.

But for what it is worth, I will be adding “keep the Village Building Company out of it or it will be nothing but endless rabbit hutches as previously seen”.

+1. It’s not worth the effort to send in a submission.

It’s a forgone conclusion that the suburb will be a crappy ‘Kath and Kim’ style hellhole like Harrison, Palmerston, Crace and Dunlop. I guarantee the houses will all be built right to the edge of the block.

FFS, if they insist on building that close to the boundary they should just make them all huge terraces. Terraces offer move privacy than the McMansions that get built in these new suburbs.

Palmerston and Harrison have some magnificent houses, as will Crace, dunlop will be fine when the trees grow, it’s actually quite peacefull out there.

You may be right though, they could fill Kenny with architectural marvels such as the “Downer Duplex” or the “Spence 3 beddie” or the “Oconnor weatherboard” or the “Kambah meh”.

People that buy these blocks have a choice, small house, some garden or big house no garden, it’s pretty clear what they are choosing.

I agree with GA that even a pretty moderately sized house will fill up the blocks as they are very small compared to your usual 1/4 acre, so really not that much choice there. The choice is more: do I buy an older “renovators’ dream” on a larger block in an existing suburb or do I play it safe and buy a brand new house on a small block in a new suburb for the same price. And if you don’t have the finances for renovations and repairs on top of the mortgage, that is not a real choice either.

Yeh good point, I havent actually seen the size of the blocks.

dpm dpm 5:52 pm 11 Nov 11

montana said :

As usual we get negative comments from insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.

Oh and to add insult to injury these people live furthur from the city than these new suburbs being built.

Yes, you can certainly tell which type each of the posters in this thread are!
a) the “insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.”
b) the insecure people who bought new “crappy little box houses” or apartments….

Both tyes of suburb/housing have their failings! Can’t we all just get along?? Hahaha! 🙂

Watson Watson 4:51 pm 11 Nov 11

shadow boxer said :

farq said :

fabforty said :

Pfft…as if they haven’t got this planned already. This is merely so someone can tick the “community consultation” box.

But for what it is worth, I will be adding “keep the Village Building Company out of it or it will be nothing but endless rabbit hutches as previously seen”.

+1. It’s not worth the effort to send in a submission.

It’s a forgone conclusion that the suburb will be a crappy ‘Kath and Kim’ style hellhole like Harrison, Palmerston, Crace and Dunlop. I guarantee the houses will all be built right to the edge of the block.

FFS, if they insist on building that close to the boundary they should just make them all huge terraces. Terraces offer move privacy than the McMansions that get built in these new suburbs.

Palmerston and Harrison have some magnificent houses, as will Crace, dunlop will be fine when the trees grow, it’s actually quite peacefull out there.

You may be right though, they could fill Kenny with architectural marvels such as the “Downer Duplex” or the “Spence 3 beddie” or the “Oconnor weatherboard” or the “Kambah meh”.

People that buy these blocks have a choice, small house, some garden or big house no garden, it’s pretty clear what they are choosing.

I agree with GA that even a pretty moderately sized house will fill up the blocks as they are very small compared to your usual 1/4 acre, so really not that much choice there. The choice is more: do I buy an older “renovators’ dream” on a larger block in an existing suburb or do I play it safe and buy a brand new house on a small block in a new suburb for the same price. And if you don’t have the finances for renovations and repairs on top of the mortgage, that is not a real choice either.

montana montana 4:33 pm 11 Nov 11

As usual we get negative comments from insecure home owners who own 50 year old crappy little box houses.

Oh and to add insult to injury these people live furthur from the city than these new suburbs being built.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 9:54 am 11 Nov 11

farq said :

fabforty said :

Pfft…as if they haven’t got this planned already. This is merely so someone can tick the “community consultation” box.

But for what it is worth, I will be adding “keep the Village Building Company out of it or it will be nothing but endless rabbit hutches as previously seen”.

+1. It’s not worth the effort to send in a submission.

It’s a forgone conclusion that the suburb will be a crappy ‘Kath and Kim’ style hellhole like Harrison, Palmerston, Crace and Dunlop. I guarantee the houses will all be built right to the edge of the block.

FFS, if they insist on building that close to the boundary they should just make them all huge terraces. Terraces offer move privacy than the McMansions that get built in these new suburbs.

Palmerston and Harrison have some magnificent houses, as will Crace, dunlop will be fine when the trees grow, it’s actually quite peacefull out there.

You may be right though, they could fill Kenny with architectural marvels such as the “Downer Duplex” or the “Spence 3 beddie” or the “Oconnor weatherboard” or the “Kambah meh”.

People that buy these blocks have a choice, small house, some garden or big house no garden, it’s pretty clear what they are choosing.

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 9:40 am 11 Nov 11

Deref said :

Oh boy. More McMansions. More lovely modern slums.

Seriously, you think McMansions can be built on the block sizes that ACTPLA are dishing up these days? Sorry, but you need to refresh your perspective with a dose of the current reality. The first Wells Station stage in Harrison was the last suburb to have a proportion of what I think are reasonable sized blocks, yet McMansions are largely absent except for a handful. For everything being built now, you are pressed to fit the basics on. Unless your idea of a new house design is a tiny 3-bed govvie rabbit warren.

ThisIsAName said :

So, was the youth detention centre planned first or the suburb? What were ACTPLA (?) thinking?

Hopefully there is something of a buffer zone for the unfortunate folks that’ll end up living near a hulking great building surrounded by razor wire.

We raised this issue with Minister Burch some months ago, and pointed out the need to start with the landscape screening now so that it is in place before the inmates find themselves in a goldfish bowl. Remembering that the major road through the suburb will link into the to be built Morriset Drv right next to Bimberi, and not far from the Antill St roundabout. She agreed and directed the department to start the process.

On the name, from ACTPLA’s place name search:

Feature Name KENNY
Gazettal Date 18 October 1991
Commemorated Name KENNY
Given Names ELIZABETH
Birth Year 1886
Death Year 1952
Sex Female
Origin Nurse; responsible for devising a treatment for poliomyelitis during an epidemic in Queensland in 1933. Her methods were investigated and officially recognised by the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis in the USA in the 1940s.

Ello Vera Ello Vera 9:10 am 11 Nov 11

They should kill Kenny and call it South Park instead.

ThisIsAName ThisIsAName 12:17 am 11 Nov 11

fabforty said :

But for what it is worth, I will be adding “keep the Village Building Company out of it or it will be nothing but endless rabbit hutches as previously seen”.

Keeping VBC out would be great, but Kenny will probably have something like the minimum 15% affordable housing requirement. This will probably force the addition of a crappy little village. Stonebridge in Franklin is a good example: stacks of flats crammed wall to wall with yard space limited to a few square metres. Put bluntly, Ownplace houses were a better deal, they cost less, and have somewhat larger blocks.

I’ve also heard some bad reports about Village Building Co. A family friend (in construction) warned that once VBC have you signed up, you won’t hear from them until you get the keys. Their post construction follow-up sounded pretty bad too. Once I spoke to someone with a VBC place, and he wasn’t impressed. The floorplan was pretty bad, and some internal fittings had been done shoddily and needed work. This should have been fixed in the post construction maintenance period. No-one at VBC bothered to returned his calls, so he may have ended up footing the repair bill himself.

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