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By johnboy - 20 August 2008 34

[First filed: August 20, 2008 @ 08:32]

Katy Gallagher has announced the happy recipients of some very small grants for worthy youth projects.

Each getting around $1,500 the winners are:

    Eden Daniels – Family Day

    Aron Walsh – Stromlo High Café

    Stephanie Levy – Save a Mate Chill Out Tent

    Elena Sione – Samoa Youth Culture and Traditions Awareness

    Melissa Aveyard – Young Stroke Survivors ACT

    Michael Bailey – The Hunting Season Launch Week

    Elysha McKay – Weston Creek Youth Festival

    Katie Cox – The Breakout Book

    Matthew Turnbull – Canberra Cup Water Polo Championships

    Michael Galluzzo – National Youth Reconciliation Conference

    Kacey Lam – Think Tank

Personally I’d be intrigued to know what the grant process cost compared to the disbursement of $16,200.

UPDATED: The ever charming Megan Purcell has been in touch to let us know that despite being initially left off the media release her application as President of the Tuggeranong Taipans Floorball club was successful.

As to the complexity of the grant process she had this to say:

    “On the topic of applications… To be honest I think it was probably more comprehensive than some others I have seen for amounts twenty times as much.”

RiotACT will, however, be following floorball and the Taipans as they progress.

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34 Responses to
Youth InterACT Grants
justbands 11:10 am 20 Aug 08

Hey jakez…get fcuked you fcuking moron. How’s that feel? Keep your personal insults to yourself hey? Mods?

Anyway…you’re making some pretty big assumptions there, I have no “blatent disregard for accounting for cost”. I only pointed out that things cost money & that doesn’t mean it’s a waste.

Perhaps we could try arguing about facts & not assumptions.

Overheard 11:06 am 20 Aug 08

Maybe could have been more efficiently administered, maybe not. I doubt that the recipients are that fussed about the administration cost.

I would venture (though couldn’t guarantee) that there would be more than $50k worth of intagible benefit that is generated from the conferring of the grants. Not that you could put a bucket at the end of it and objectively measure it, nor simply count up all the widgets and say, ‘There you go: $xxxx worth of benefit justifies the overheads’.

As a taxpayer, I think it’s a worthwhile investment in da youf.

jakez 11:04 am 20 Aug 08

Katie said :

I would be intersted in what the projects actually involve (specifically Stephanie Levy’s save a mate chill out tent), is this information available anywhere?

Yeah that would be some interesting information. I wonder if the proposals are (or will be) publically available. I’m interested in finding out more about Kacey Lam’s ‘think tank’.

jakez 11:02 am 20 Aug 08

justbands said :

> But because it’s not just your money being wasted you don’t give a shit.

Huh? Where did I say that? Things cost money, although I’d suspect that the staff member that runs this scheme also has many other duties & that costs are shared. I stick by my “it’s all an investment” statement though. Are you saying that we should only give grants to our youth if we can somehow magically do it without costing any money beyond the grants themselves? Can’t happen, won’t happen….ever.

Your blatant disregard for accounting for cost suggests that you care not for the money of others. If you spent $66k of your own money for something worth $16k I can only assume your attitude would be a lot different. Also I said from the beginning that it was a hypothetical number to illustrate a point, so don’t play that ‘oh you silly billy it’s shared costs’ line.

If you stick by your ‘it’s all an investment’ statement then you are a bloody fool. The youth get the $16k not the operation costs (COSTS!!!). I also never said that we should only do it if we can magically do it without ancilliary costs, I said (and this is a direct quote):

“When you do anything in your life you have to weigh the costs against the rewards and make a choice.”

Katie 10:53 am 20 Aug 08

I would be intersted in what the projects actually involve (specifically Stephanie Levy’s save a mate chill out tent), is this information available anywhere?

justbands 10:47 am 20 Aug 08

> But because it’s not just your money being wasted you don’t give a shit.

Huh? Where did I say that? Things cost money, although I’d suspect that the staff member that runs this scheme also has many other duties & that costs are shared. I stick by my “it’s all an investment” statement though. Are you saying that we should only give grants to our youth if we can somehow magically do it without costing any money beyond the grants themselves? Can’t happen, won’t happen….ever.

jakez 10:44 am 20 Aug 08

I’d be shocked if it really was that much, that would be outrageous.

Skidbladnir 10:39 am 20 Aug 08

A (hypothetical, admittedly) 75% overhead cost would be kind of ridiculous.
And would need some serious reporting and an independent audit.

jakez 10:34 am 20 Aug 08

justbands said :

> Also, I’m not sure you really understand johnboy’s question. He’s talking about the operating costs of the program. If they spend $16k on grants and $50k on administration, that’s not a good program, that’s a waste of money.

That’s a $66K investment in out youth (our future). If the program costs money to run, then it costs money to run.

No it’s not, it’s a $16k investment in our youth and a $50k investment in make work programs. When you do anything in your life you have to weigh the costs against the rewards and make a choice. I’m not saying it does cost $50k to run the program, I’m not saying the program is inefficient (I’m also not saying it isn’t inefficient), I’m merely putting forward a hypothetical to explain johnboys point, and a valid point it is.

If you spend $66k to give $16k to youth, you need to have a serious look at your costs. That’s the point. But because it’s not just your money being wasted you don’t give a shit.

johnboy 10:33 am 20 Aug 08

I’m saying I’d have liked to have seen bigger grants given the pain and effort involved in any grants program.

For this kind of money they might have been better served with cake bakes.

justbands 10:17 am 20 Aug 08

> Also, I’m not sure you really understand johnboy’s question. He’s talking about the operating costs of the program. If they spend $16k on grants and $50k on administration, that’s not a good program, that’s a waste of money.

That’s a $66K investment in out youth (our future). If the program costs money to run, then it costs money to run.

Skidbladnir 10:11 am 20 Aug 08

It really would be a good thing if there was some kind of Program Performance Reporting against criteria made available for public inspection whenever there’s an announcement like this, especially around an election.

jakez 10:06 am 20 Aug 08

nik73 said :

Is the cost really an issue though? I don’t think so. It’s supporting and encouraging innovation and community spirit in our youth, which can only be a good thing, IMHO.

If I go out and buy a Kingswood for $50,000 that’s not a good thing. Of course cost matters.

Also, I’m not sure you really understand johnboy’s question. He’s talking about the operating costs of the program. If they spend $16k on grants and $50k on administration, that’s not a good program, that’s a waste of money.

nik73 9:44 am 20 Aug 08

Is the cost really an issue though? I don’t think so. It’s supporting and encouraging innovation and community spirit in our youth, which can only be a good thing, IMHO.

Thumper 8:46 am 20 Aug 08

Personally I’d be intrigued to know what the grant process cost compared to the disbursement of $16,200.

In that case, it’s probably better that you don’t know. However, i’m sure i could come up with a rough costing.

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