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Zed runs at Gazza

By johnboy 4 February 2013 61

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Word is breaking that Liberal Leader Zed Seselja has taken the easy option of knocking off sitting Senator Gary Humphries rather than taking the hard road of trying to win a new seat for his party.

We’ll let you know what this means for the Legislative Assembly when we know.


UPDATE 04/01/13 09:06: Word is that Zed will only have to give up his Assembly seat if he gets the pre-selection.

Our sense is that the Seselja forces have hollowed out the local Liberals to the point he should have no trouble even with Senator Humphries strong record.


UPDATE 04/01/13 09:47: Zed will be making an announcement at 12.30pm.


UPDATE 04/01/13 11:39: Senator Humphries has announced he’ll be making a statement at 1.30pm.


UPDATE 04/01/13 12:45: Zed’s standing down from the Liberal leadership, but not the Assembly on Monday.


UPDATE 04/01/13 13:37: Zed’s press conference as recorded from 1206 2CC is online if you want a listen.

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DrKoresh 9:55 am 05 Feb 13

miz said :

As a Tuggers-ite I was looking forward to Zed using the Libs’ big swing in this area to DO something locally. Having him nick off to the federal level after we all voted for him p!sses me off.
They should not interpret the big local swing in Tuggeranong as a vote for the federal Libs.

Speak for yourself, I’m a (reluctant) Tuggers-ite, Zed didn’t get any love from me last election.

watto23 9:21 am 05 Feb 13

caf said :

Roundhead89 said :

Already there are reports that the letters editor is spiking any letters criticising The Greens and Labor and that the Abbott haters will again be allowed to take over the paper.

If you think that the Letters page of the Canberra Times is a politically influential organ, then I believe you’re sadly mistaken.

(Is “reports” a modern synonym for “rumours”?)

And after all the libs megaphone AKA News limited has doesn’t overshadow the CT at all does it……

I amazed by the zealotry of some people with regards to politics. Everyone is quick to call one side of politics a liar and somehow thinks the side they support doesn’t lie. I can handle that people identify with the ideology of one side or the other, but to think one side lies more, or the other side spreads hate about the opposition leader more, is ridiculous.

Especially when poll after poll has shown that neither Abbott or Gillard are preferred leaders. I’d have imagined if the Libs got rid of Abbott, they’d romp the election in, its the only thing holding them back IMO. Look what the local libs did with a leader people liked.

Thumper 9:00 am 05 Feb 13

goggles13 said :

HiddenDragon said :

With Abbott and Hockey having made repeated comments to the effect that they intend to gut DEEWR and Health and Ageing

so I wonder which health priorities abbott and hockey intend to get rid of if they gut DoHA?

I’m not exactly sure that there will be anything left to cut the way the current mob are stealthily removing positions.

miz 7:55 am 05 Feb 13

As a Tuggers-ite I was looking forward to Zed using the Libs’ big swing in this area to DO something locally. Having him nick off to the federal level after we all voted for him p!sses me off.
They should not interpret the big local swing in Tuggeranong as a vote for the federal Libs.

VicePope 6:36 am 05 Feb 13

Golly what excitement!
A few propositions. Humphries has been generally useless. A couple of instances of sticking up for the right of the local sandpit to legislate does not outweigh silence on issues affecting his electorate, such as proposals (from either side) to take a chainsaw to the APS and thus bring on another localised 1996-97 recession. Lundy can be distinguished – she’s a Minister (something Humphries has never been and will never be) and bound by solidarity to support Government decisions.
Seselja is an apparent vote-winner, though I am at a loss to understand why. He turned the recent election around by dominating Brindabella. Those voters who supported him and dragged a couple more Libs over the line might feel a tad used and abused if he walks out now.
Seselja’s departure might awake tensions in the local sandpit Libs that would be better left sleeping. As he will remain there unless preselected and until nominated for the Senate, he will have a vote and influence. When he departs and is replaced, that could upset the makeup of the loyalties and alliances that put a replacement leader in.
As others have observed, Seselja might be better placed running for the Reps in Canberra. He is moving from an environment where he has made a difference to the safety of the Senate where he will just be a drone replacing a different drone. He could take a risk and try for something where he could put his party across the line.
Enough of Canberra is rusted on ALP to give Lundy a mortgage on one Senate spot. The best chance for proper representation is for the other Senate seat to go elsewhere than either the ALP or the Libs – to have one representative who can wheedle on behalf of the ACT. Sheik is probably not the answer, and the best chance ever was the late Rick Farley last century. The chances for Sheik would, however, be improved by an ugly brawl for the number one Senate spot in the Libs.
Who would people support as a third party or independent candidate?

goggles13 9:26 pm 04 Feb 13

HiddenDragon said :

With Abbott and Hockey having made repeated comments to the effect that they intend to gut DEEWR and Health and Ageing

so I wonder which health priorities abbott and hockey intend to get rid of if they gut DoHA?

poetix 8:13 pm 04 Feb 13

johnboy said :

Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach.

I like to think I’ve still got some lead in the pencil.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7OqGCIcak&feature=youtube_gdata_player

No logical connection at all.

Frustrated 8:06 pm 04 Feb 13

Thumper said :

Humphries lost my vote after an email conversation earlier last year that basically went along the lines of:

Thumper: Dear Senator, I think issue X is unfair due to these reasons. Care to comment on it.

Humphries: I will look into it for you.

Three or four months later

Thumper: Dear Senator, as my elected official I would expect that you would reply. Obviously this not the case.

Humphries: Dear Mr Thumper, it appears we lost your correspondance. I shall consult my colleagues.

Thumper: Dear Senator. I wrote to you, not your colleagues. And my question? Do have a stance or an opinion?

Humphries: This is an interesting case that raises alot of questions.

Thumper: No kidding. That’s why I asked. Do you have an opinion.

Humphries: This is an interesting case that raises alot of questions.

Thumper: So you don’t have an opinion or a stance of this issue?

Silence.

Admittedly I wrote to Andrew Leigh who wrote back saying, I have forwarded it to the Minister repsonsible.

Thanks Andrew, if I wanted to get a letter from the Minister responsible I would have written to her. In this case I wrote to you seeking your view, not a form letter from the Department telling me stuff I could look up on the Departmental website.

A pox on all their houses.

I suggest a viewing of Yes Minister is in order for you.

That might remind you of how it all works!

LSWCHP 7:57 pm 04 Feb 13

drfelonious said :

I’m not usually a Liberal voter, but I would give my #1 preference to Gazza if he had the number 2 spot in the hope of throwing a spanner in the works. Since I am born and raised Canberran I reckon I would not be alone.

Go the insurgency Gazza!

Righteous stuff!! I’ve never voted the party line in my entire life, so I’m down for it. 🙂

Tetranitrate 7:49 pm 04 Feb 13

c_c™ said :

muscledude_oz said :

johnboy said :

p1 said :

Isn’t it a little unethical to get your self elected only to quit the next year?

Pretty common for defeated leaders to do it though.

Example: Anna Bligh following the shellacking Labor received in Qld last year. She didn’t even wait that long. Two months after the election she was outta there.

Difference being Anna was damaged goods, and her going didn’t make any tangible difference. Zed leaving takes away a big, loyal quota for the Libs and probably their best chance at the next election.

I think Johnboy’s original point was more that Garry Humphries did pretty much the same thing Zed is doing – after losing government in 2001 (he’d replaced Carnell) he filled a casual vacancy in the senate.

Frustrated 7:25 pm 04 Feb 13

Primal said :

After his recent showing down Tuggeranong way, I thought he could have been their best chance to bump off Gai Brodtmann.

I disagree, Tugg voters will see that he is all ambition and fluff, and wasn’t interested in helping his constituents at all.

If he runs and fails in the Fed Election, i assume he is without a job, surely he cannot have the MLA seat and run for the Feds at the same time.

Thumper 7:19 pm 04 Feb 13

c_c™ said :

muscledude_oz said :

johnboy said :

p1 said :

Isn’t it a little unethical to get your self elected only to quit the next year?

Pretty common for defeated leaders to do it though.

Example: Anna Bligh following the shellacking Labor received in Qld last year. She didn’t even wait that long. Two months after the election she was outta there.

Difference being Anna was damaged goods, and her going didn’t make any tangible difference. Zed leaving takes away a big, loyal quota for the Libs and probably their best chance at the next election.

The ACT Libs can never win. That was shown last election where they had their best result ever and still failed.

Not a good thing for Canberra really, but a fact of life.

gazket 5:37 pm 04 Feb 13

Zed will be dead.
Gary Humphries flogs that stupid Labour woman every week on the radio from what I’ve seen does a good job.

Back stabbing your own side should stay in the party that does it best, Labour

c_c™ 5:29 pm 04 Feb 13

muscledude_oz said :

johnboy said :

p1 said :

Isn’t it a little unethical to get your self elected only to quit the next year?

Pretty common for defeated leaders to do it though.

Example: Anna Bligh following the shellacking Labor received in Qld last year. She didn’t even wait that long. Two months after the election she was outta there.

Difference being Anna was damaged goods, and her going didn’t make any tangible difference. Zed leaving takes away a big, loyal quota for the Libs and probably their best chance at the next election.

drfelonious 5:08 pm 04 Feb 13

I’m not usually a Liberal voter, but I would give my #1 preference to Gazza if he had the number 2 spot in the hope of throwing a spanner in the works. Since I am born and raised Canberran I reckon I would not be alone.

Go the insurgency Gazza!

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