Flame Of The Week - RushHour

As someone on the wrong side of 60, I feel somewhat sad reading these comments. I am not condoning bad behaviour on the road (as a motorbike rider, I am very aware of the poor road skills of too many drivers), but the heavily judgemental tone of so many posts is almost as much of a worry.

Yes, young drivers can be dangerous. But so can far too many older ones, many of whom are probably in the age bracket of most RA posters here. Wanker-driven SUVs with the driver on the phone are more danger to me that a kid having a bit of a go in a hotted up car.

When I were a lad, we did some pretty scary things, not just on bikes and in cars. But when considering the lack of sophisticated suspensions, brakes, tyres, frames/chassis, etc, and the complete lack of passive (let alone active) safety devices, then we were far more at risk. Hell, when I first rode a bike, we didn’t wear helmets at all.

Yet we survived, despite the risks. According to a recent report, “In 2011, Australia recorded the lowest number of road deaths since 1946, down to about a third of the deaths recorded at the peak in 1970”. I know this is never consolation to those who have lost family and friends, and also does not take into account serious injuries and other costs, but our roads have never been safer.

So, when I catch up with my boomer friends and we talk about old times, we have some stories to tell. I suspect far too many RA posters here will have few, if any, yarns that will curl the hair. Good? Perhaps.

Maybe some of you should sit down with your dads or grandads (or better yet, listen in when they are having a few beers with their mates), specially if they served in Vietnam, Korea or earlier.

So, I just think this whole thread is a bit sad. Sure, kids should and must behave on the road. But where is the fear-soaked adrenalin that we used to know when I were a lad?

yellowredme, I feel for your friend, it is terrible she has been so destroyed by automobiles. the deaths and injuries on our roads are an epidemic. if cars were invented today the very concept would likely be illegal. filling a tonne of metal with explosive liquid and propelling it at 100km/h is a fundamentally dangerous activity, whether it is drag racing or the morning commute. even if we eliminated all the drunks and hoons there would still be road fatalities.

no one is a safe driver, we are all monkeys in death traps. I for one think driverless mass transit is the solution, as long as we let individuals control heavy machinery en masse, there will be accidents.

Apoc said :

all the local gov needs to do is spend a few thousand dollars (which i am certain would be repayed by members of the group and enthusiasts in the community) and build a small ashphelt area suitable for this activity out near HQJOC between queenbeyan and bungendore, implement some tyre barriers, train up a few members of the group to adhere to safety guidelines.

nobody here is asking for a multi-million dollar dragway, they just want a bit of tarmac to waste some tyres,

Ah if only it was that simple, nevermind that the Government (which one?) setting aside some land and laying out some asphalt would be significantly more than “a couple of thousand dollars” if they did set aside such property for said specific purpose wouldnt they then have the public liability issue for any little thing that happened adversely at any time with the possible exception of events organised by community or private groups? If so can it please be on the opposite side of the border to where I live. 😉

“the law” referred to as some holy sacrament or universal objectivity. zealots calling for the incarceration of any who would break that divine covenant, that perfect boundary between civilisation and barbarism.

laws are human and frail, they are subjective and shifting. laws start in one place and end in another, it is impossible for one to know them all, let alone follow them blindly.

saying something is “against the law” says nothing of its validity or value, those laws which are often far removed from common sense or intellect. once, racial equality was illegal. Once sexual equality was illegal. to this day, man’s oldest cure all is illegal.

can such laws, so fickle and feeble, truly be respected? is it any wonder they are disregarded and ignored?

beyond that broken code lies an enforcement system which is equally archaic and insane. Punishment does not encourage rehabilitation, violence and mistreatment will never “cure” the criminal. the threat of these inhuman tortures does not make injust laws seem sane.

until laws are written by and for “we the people”, until they reflect reality, they shall remain ignored and broken. The ancient delusions of aristocratic gentry will not deter the folly of whimsical cyberpunk youth.

Not sure what any of that has to do with burnouts, but OK.

PBO said :

IBO,

I generally do not feel safe next to young ppl who think that they can “drive” and who show off, have you ever been first on the scene of a severe accident? Have you ever seen a person who has half of their body crushed (not upper or lower, but a crushed whole right side including the head) and is still clinging on to life staring you in the eye trying to say something to you?

Have you ever felt powerless to help someone, knowing that they will die no matter what you do to help them?

How do you think that i felt when i had to walk away from this knowing that I saw this guy race to overtake me minutes before?

I could only imagine how his family must have felt as this happened on a boxing day.

Or how about seeing the top of someone’s head ground flat because their head was out the window when the car flipped and spun on its roof? Guess not, otherwise it may change your attitude on racing in the streets.

Street racing and hooning does not prove anything other than the fact you are all dangerous wankers who make the roads unsafe for the rest of us.

Very good post. I don’t really know what to say that will not sound trite. Thank you for posting that here.

IBO,

I generally do not feel safe next to young ppl who think that they can “drive” and who show off, have you ever been first on the scene of a severe accident? Have you ever seen a person who has half of their body crushed (not upper or lower, but a crushed whole right side including the head) and is still clinging on to life staring you in the eye trying to say something to you?

Have you ever felt powerless to help someone, knowing that they will die no matter what you do to help them?

How do you think that i felt when i had to walk away from this knowing that I saw this guy race to overtake me minutes before? I could only imagine how his family must have felt as this happened on a boxing day.

Or how about seeing the top of someone’s head ground flat because their head was out the window when the car flipped and spun on its roof? Guess not, otherwise it may change your attitude on racing in the streets.

Street racing and hooning does not prove anything other than the fact you are all dangerous wankers who make the roads unsafe for the rest of us.

IBO

I wish you could meet my friend I mentioned in the other thread regarding horrific injuries suffered in an accident on a country road ‘in the middle of nowhere’ – because another driver mistakenly assumed he had mastery of his vehicle. Unfortunately, being so far from town it took an ambulance a long time to arrive to just do basic life support, then time for paramedics to arrive to properly puncture her airway so she could breathe, let alone the time it took to cut her out of the car, being airlifted to hospital etc, so things just got worse from there.

Get a life? My friend has no life after such an accident. At 17 years old her brain was slammed so hard against the inside of her skull (which broke the dash and windscreen – she was wearing a seatbelt, no airbags in cars at that time) that mentally she will be a teenager forever, which makes her quite vulnerable, as for the bones broken in her body, clinical staff soon stopped counting.

My friend remembers life before the accident and compares it to now, the multitude of friends vapourised, no more guys desparate to just chat with her because she was kind and beautiful, she wants to ‘have a life’ and feel normal, in her words she says she looks and acts like a spaz and it has ruined her life, not many of her peers take time for her now so social opportunities are few and realistically she will never marry and injuries mean she can’t have children, quite depressing for her. People often treat her like she is stupid when we are out, they talk to me like she can’t hear them, so there is great emotional pain for her too and I get an attitude with people who treat my friend like an idiot.

‘F*** ALL OF YOU!? She would love to repeat that to many people. People who dont obey speed limits, who do things on the road that are illegal, it frightens her because she knows first hand what can happen in a split second (her car was only clipped by another, but the very unfortunate results are described above) and unfortunately it refreshes in her mind everything she has been through. She would have liked to have been able to speak to say ‘F*** You” to the people who caused her pain in the year she was in hospital, but for quite a while she couldn’t speak to tell them they were causing her pain – 3 months in a coma, rehab, (pain is pain whether from the accident or from medical staff who would like not to cause pain in their work, unfortunately necessary care does hurt a body already screaming in pain and rehab hurts too despite pain relief).

So IBO go ahead abuse away, but remember the road is a public place, even in the middle of nowhere accidents happen and lives are ruined (young or ‘faggot old’), I wouldn’t wish such an accident it on you, but breaking the law increases your chances of having an accident. I would love you to spend a day with my friend and I, she may just change what you believe is safe and is your right on the road.

I’m all for places for people to drive as they wish, not on a public road, so you make it happen – organise, fundraise, lobby for facilities to do such, dont whinge about your rights or state what you will do regardless on the road, my friend has had many, many of her rights taken away by someone who thought they could do the same …

If you Google for IBO, the first hit indicates that it stands for the International Baccalaureate Organisation. Surely not…

Constructive suggesstions go a long way!

Thanks, Triffid…

-Miss.B

Thank you, Triffid.

Let alone the time that is needed to organize a decent attendance at an existing venue (such as Wakefield Park etc.) between commuting out of state (be it, not very far…) and possibly accommodation it would prove to be costly to do so on such a regular basis.

A day on the skid pan is also an option that could be discussed, but once again the cost & having someone willing to organize such a regular event is great…

In saying all of this, I am not implying that a new facility should be built especially for us and come bearing no cost to the user – however I’m sure there is a more freely accessible & cost effective option that could be considered and/or put into action in the near future.

-Miss.B

I concede that organisation of events is a burden that invariably falls on the dedicated few. I’ve been captain / president / commodore of more than one or two clubs (motor sport and otherwise) to realise that. But, let’s hypothesise for a moment . . .

Assume an area is granted / dedicated for the purposes RH proposes. Questions of responsibility come to the fore. And, those responsibilities lie in reasonably heavy duty areas of the law . . . occupiers liability, public liability are but two. You see, it will all be sweetness and light until — god forbid — someone who is attending an event in that designated and accorded area is injured or, worse still, killed or permanently incapacitated. By being ‘unshackled’ from structure and, therefore, any definable legal personality, every single person proximal to that incident will likely of themselves be considered as liable for that injury or death: they will have abrogated their duty of care in the prevention of that injury occurring. You may well see the symetry with RHs current modes of activity, albeit they would also be overlaid with other breaches of the law.

My point is that there is no ‘more freely accessible and cost effective option’ than the utilisation of existing infrastructure and opportunity. I think that any reasonably superficial evaluation of the relative costs would reveal that. For instance I know, from personal experience, that a day on the skid pan might equate to just $30-00 a day for a group of 15 or so folk. Given the cost invested in tyres / fuel / vehicle blah blah, it’s the cheapest part of the exercise (entry fees invariably are).

Your ‘dedicated area’, on the other hand, will cost you the establishment of an entity with legal personality so that responsibility can be assumed somewhere. It will require the formalisation of RHs activities . . . there’s no escaping that prospect. That will require ongoing cost. It will cost all of you — or likely a small and dedicated ‘core’ — time and effort.

Miss B . . . I’ve been playing this ‘game’ for a long, long time. I’m nearing my 50s, yet was captain and club champion of one of the then largest rally-oriented clubs in Queensland at 18. I understand — perhaps better then many other contributers on this site — what sort of objectives RH seek. I even hold for it a faint glimmer of empathy. But, RH need to be much, much smarter about how they go about things and definately much smarter with respect to the considerations of that which it seeks. It could well be a case of, ‘careful what you wish for’. And it must always be remembered that with rights come responsibilities.

Cheers

Just out of interest, and my own personal curiosity, Miss B — since it is clear that you can articulate conceptual thought — what do you see as the impediments to the RH crowd utilising, more fully, the EXISTING infrastructure and opportunities for vehicle usage beyond mere commuting and / or that are friendly towards vehicle modification (ICE doesn’t count by the way)? I mean . . . I (and many other members of CAMS-based organisations) do struggle somewhat with that.

You see, my primary contention is that the facilities you seek are in place and readily accessable. For some insight into that, please note my post, above.

*****

Thank you, Triffid.

Let alone the time that is needed to organize a decent attendance at an existing venue (such as Wakefield Park etc.) between commuting out of state (be it, not very far…) and possibly accommodation it would prove to be costly to do so on such a regular basis.

A day on the skid pan is also an option that could be discussed, but once again the cost & having someone willing to organize such a regular event is great…

In saying all of this, I am not implying that a new facility should be built especially for us and come bearing no cost to the user – however I’m sure there is a more freely accessible & cost effective option that could be considered and/or put into action in the near future.

-Miss.B

I am not condoning and/or trying to make better the use of language of other members on this site, nor do I judge the driving (in)ability of the minority of the group outside of RH. And I do agree that of course the law takes primacy over our rules that are put in place – These rules are just there for our/others safety while out – And each and every one of us are well aware of the consequences if the Police are to become involved (Defect Notices, Fines etc. etc.)

I am also not trying to say that what is happening at RH is within the law, though it’s not only the RH group who are going to continue to want to do burnouts or modify their cars etc. There are a vast number of persons in Canberra & the surrounding areas who would love to have somewhere to do this within a more controlled and/or ‘legal’ environment, but this will only happen with support from the community…

-Miss.B

Just out of interest, and my own personal curiosity, Miss B — since it is clear that you can articulate conceptual thought — what do you see as the impediments to the RH crowd utilising, more fully, the EXISTING infrastructure and opportunities for vehicle usage beyond mere commuting and / or that are friendly towards vehicle modification (ICE doesn’t count by the way)? I mean . . . I (and many other members of CAMS-based organisations) do struggle somewhat with that.

You see, my primary contention is that the facilities you seek are in place and readily accessable. For some insight into that, please note my post, above.

Seems I am a little computer illiterate! Let’s try that one again:

In response to “colourful sydney racing identity”

I am serious about keeping hoons off the streets and do not think the best way to see that happen is to give them somewhere else to drive like dickheads. The way this should happen is through enforcement of the law, you know the law, the law that they constantly break. Regardless of the rules/regulations you have in place the law has primacy.

In terms of garnering community support, having members come on here abusing people, throwing around words like ‘faggot’ (gosh, how mature), and, more importantly having people with the rush hour sticker on the back of their cars driving like absolute morons does not help.

I am amazed how many times I see someone tailgaiting, speeding, changing lanes without indicating etc, only to notice that they have a rush hour sticker on their rear windscreen

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I am not condoning and/or trying to make better the use of language of other members on this site, nor do I judge the driving (in)ability of the minority of the group outside of RH. And I do agree that of course the law takes primacy over our rules that are put in place – These rules are just there for our/others safety while out – And each and every one of us are well aware of the consequences if the Police are to become involved (Defect Notices, Fines etc. etc.)

I am also not trying to say that what is happening at RH is within the law, though it’s not only the RH group who are going to continue to want to do burnouts or modify their cars etc. There are a vast number of persons in Canberra & the surrounding areas who would love to have somewhere to do this within a more controlled and/or ‘legal’ environment, but this will only happen with support from the community…

-Miss.B

I am serious about keeping hoons off the streets and do not think the best way to see that happen is to give them somewhere else to drive like dickheads. The way this should happen is through enforcement of the law, you know the law, the law that they constantly break. Regardless of the rules/regulations you have in place the law has primacy.

In terms of garnering community support, having members come on here abusing people, throwing around words like ‘faggot’ (gosh, how mature), and, more importantly having people with the rush hour sticker on the back of their cars driving like absolute morons does not help.

I am amazed how many times I see someone tailgaiting, speeding, changing lanes without indicating etc, only to notice that they have a rush hour sticker on their rear windscreen

I am not condoning and/or trying to make better the use of language of other members on this site, nor do I judge the driving (in)ability of the minority of the group outside of RH. And I do agree that of course the law takes primacy over our rules that are put in place – These rules are just there for our/others safety while out – And each and every one of us are well aware of the consequences if the Police are to become involved (Defect Notices, Fines etc. etc.)

I am also not trying to say that what is happening at RH is within the law, though it’s not only the RH group who are going to continue to want to do burnouts or modify their cars etc. There are a vast number of persons in Canberra & the surrounding areas who would love to have somewhere to do this within a more controlled and/or ‘legal’ environment, but this will only happen with support from the community…

-Miss.B

Hi all,

I am well aware that the rules/regulations set in place by the organisers of RH to keep this environment as controlled and as safe as possible. There will always be hazards involved in these types of activities; but by strictly enforcing these “policies & procedures” we do our best to mitigate these risks as much as possible.

It is also disappointing to see some RA users on here making assumptions about the lifestyles of the RH attendees – I’m sure many of you could take offence to what they would have to say in retaliation. But that’s not what this is about…

Sure, there is high demand for a drag strip/track or similar in Canberra – however this will not happen without the support of the community. If you are serious about keeping ‘hoons’ off the streets, I suggest playing more of an active role in making this happen. I know many of the RH members are more than willing to ‘make their mark’ (mind the pun) in this movement.

-Miss.B

I am serious about keeping hoons off the streets and do not think the best way to see that happen is to give them somewhere else to drive like dickheads. The way this should happen is through enforcement of the law, you know the law, the law that they constantly break. Regardless of the rules/regulations you have in place the law has primacy.

In terms of garnering community support, having members come on here abusing people, throwing around words like ‘faggot’ (gosh, how mature), and, more importantly having people with the rush hour sticker on the back of their cars driving like absolute morons does not help.

I am amazed how many times I see someone tailgaiting, speeding, changing lanes without indicating etc, only to notice that they have a rush hour sticker on their rear windscreen.

Hi all,

I am well aware that the rules/regulations set in place by the organisers of RH to keep this environment as controlled and as safe as possible. There will always be hazards involved in these types of activities; but by strictly enforcing these “policies & procedures” we do our best to mitigate these risks as much as possible.

It is also disappointing to see some RA users on here making assumptions about the lifestyles of the RH attendees – I’m sure many of you could take offence to what they would have to say in retaliation. But that’s not what this is about…

Sure, there is high demand for a drag strip/track or similar in Canberra – however this will not happen without the support of the community. If you are serious about keeping ‘hoons’ off the streets, I suggest playing more of an active role in making this happen. I know many of the RH members are more than willing to ‘make their mark’ (mind the pun) in this movement.

-Miss.B

karmacarrier said :

Apoc does a good job.

Just because someone is a proponent of your view does not equate to them doing a good job.

karmacarrier said :

Cars and car events are a big part of Oz society.

Not the events you participate in. Do you really think there is a large section of the community that supports what you do?

karmacarrier said :

Where are the facilities for safe and cheap outlets for these car owners?

Oh please, not this argument again, “I want to be a dickhead and the gubmint should provide somewhere for me to do it’

karmacarrier said :

One bogan doesn’t discount the many who enjoy using cars for more than commuting.

If you want to use your car for somehting other than commuting, fine, obey the law and respect others. Every person who has stepped up to represent this group of hooligans has done the group a dis-service.

Cars and car events are a big part of Oz society.
Where are the facilities for safe and cheap outlets for these car owners?
One bogan doesn’t discount the many who enjoy using cars for more than commuting

Yes . . . yes they are, karmacarrier. It’s characteristic of the tyranny of distance we enjoy in this wide brown land.

Where are the safe facilities? Well, there’s a hillclimb circuit; a skid pan at the driver training complex; Wakefield Park just up the road; regular access to proximal forest areas (if you’re into skillfully going sideways on gravel), a kart track if you really want to hone skills . . . in fact, there’s any number of legitimate avenues when you stop, open your eyes and have a look around. But, ‘legitimacy’ and / or ‘structure’ isn’t fully sick, is it? And, your typical RH type ain’t big on the type of discipline and responsibility that organised motor sport imposes, are they? And — let’s be honest — most of them couldn’t drive a greasy stick up . . . Well, think A) a certain recently departed Canberra Raider and B) where the sun might not shine on a doggy (they couldn’t drive out of sight on a dark night with their lights off either).

And, mate, as has sadly been evidenced to me time and time again during my close-on 30 years of involvement and participation in and with motor sport, yes . . . one bogan does discount, to fire sale prices, the prospects for the many who enjoy using cars for more than commuting.

I didn’t realise Steph Rice was using the moniker IBO these days.

JessicaNumber said :

Why don’t you just go bash a paddock instead of getting yourselves in trouble and asking the government for free stuff?

This.

And in order to motivate the government to give them free stuff, they often state that having such a facility will ensure that illegal behaviour never happens on public streets ever again, but if they don’t get the facility, chaos will rule.

All that motivates me to think is that they should be deprived of their vehicles and sent to gaol.

I struggle to believe all this is genuine discussion. it cant be real. it cant be real

I’m 18-30 and had never even heard of Rush Hour before this week. And I think it sounds stupid. Why don’t you just go bash a paddock instead of getting yourselves in trouble and asking the government for free stuff?

Apoc does a good job.
Cars and car events are a big part of Oz society.
Where are the facilities for safe and cheap outlets for these car owners?
One bogan doesn’t discount the many who enjoy using cars for more than commuting.
Maybe if Franki Valli exhausts in public and onstage Barr Barr might see an opportunity for spending our money on something that brings our community together rather than apart.

Why don’t they just get a blue smoke grenade and a recording of a burn out sound. Pull the pin and crank up the doof-doof machine and you’re away.

They’d save squillions on tyres and might be able to afford girlfriends.

APOC

Well said buddyI couldnt agree more 🙂

one individuals emotional outburst does not represent the entire view of a club/organisation/group, the community aim of RH has always been to remove the element from endangering people in public streets, if it were to stop I would say for certain the amount of activities on the streets would increase ten fold.

School formals are always full of burnouts so who really cares, i would safely say that 98% of formal burnouts are performed by non-rh participants, same as they were 10 years ago.

all the local gov needs to do is spend a few thousand dollars (which i am certain would be repayed by members of the group and enthusiasts in the community) and build a small ashphelt area suitable for this activity out near HQJOC between queenbeyan and bungendore, implement some tyre barriers, train up a few members of the group to adhere to safety guidelines.

nobody here is asking for a multi-million dollar dragway, they just want a bit of tarmac to waste some tyres, what a perfect oppurtunity for police and young car enthusiasts to engage in a respectful dialog, imagine the lives the police could save by having such a dialog with young drivers??

the demographic of RH covers all ethnic backgrounds, and mostly represented by the 18-30 age bracket, with some exceptions outside of this, ask any young person who is fresh on their P’s what they think of that type of activity and you will start to realise that this isnt just a few bogans who are into it, its a majority of the current generation of young adults, i would say it is a cultural element of our society that is here to stay, any argument against that then you are clearly not in touch with the youth of western society, it is everywhere, look at the burnout groups around the country, they are in all the big cities, i would hate to think what sort of groups would be around if RH wasnt, i doubt they would not have the same moral codes and strict member rules..

ps: I do not represent RH in the ACT, I am just giving you my 2 cents, flame away because I will not be back to read the responses =)

Apoc,

do you know if Queanbeyan or Palarang shires have been approached? Given the upcoming election I would assume that Laura Norder would be high on the one-up-manship stakes so the state govt possibly isn’t likely at the moment

one individuals emotional outburst does not represent the entire view of a club/organisation/group, the community aim of RH has always been to remove the element from endangering people in public streets, if it were to stop I would say for certain the amount of activities on the streets would increase ten fold.

School formals are always full of burnouts so who really cares, i would safely say that 98% of formal burnouts are performed by non-rh participants, same as they were 10 years ago.

all the local gov needs to do is spend a few thousand dollars (which i am certain would be repayed by members of the group and enthusiasts in the community) and build a small ashphelt area suitable for this activity out near HQJOC between queenbeyan and bungendore, implement some tyre barriers, train up a few members of the group to adhere to safety guidelines.

nobody here is asking for a multi-million dollar dragway, they just want a bit of tarmac to waste some tyres, what a perfect oppurtunity for police and young car enthusiasts to engage in a respectful dialog, imagine the lives the police could save by having such a dialog with young drivers??

the demographic of RH covers all ethnic backgrounds, and mostly represented by the 18-30 age bracket, with some exceptions outside of this, ask any young person who is fresh on their P’s what they think of that type of activity and you will start to realise that this isnt just a few bogans who are into it, its a majority of the current generation of young adults, i would say it is a cultural element of our society that is here to stay, any argument against that then you are clearly not in touch with the youth of western society, it is everywhere, look at the burnout groups around the country, they are in all the big cities, i would hate to think what sort of groups would be around if RH wasnt, i doubt they would not have the same moral codes and strict member rules..

ps: I do not represent RH in the ACT, I am just giving you my 2 cents, flame away because I will not be back to read the responses =)

Dear Rush Hour

If you would choose to call myself a ‘faggot’ to my face I have a range of locales and times available. Just say the word……….thought not.

Mind you, you did say you can guarentee (sic) that everyone has done something stupid in their lives. Now you posted this you are fortunate enough to have documentary evidence

I’m at a loss … Whats he talking about? food?? I thought Faggot was old fashon meat balls made from offal.

World English Dictionary
faggot or esp ( US ) fagot 1 (?fæ??t)

— n
1. a bundle of sticks or twigs, esp when bound together and used as fuel
2. a bundle of iron bars, esp a box formed by four pieces of wrought iron and filled with scrap to be forged into wrought iron
3. a ball of chopped meat, usually pork liver, bound with herbs and bread and eaten fried
4. a bundle of anything

— vb
5. to collect into a bundle or bundles
6. needlework to do faggoting on (a garment, piece of cloth, etc)

[C14: from Old French, perhaps from Greek phakelos bundle]

All is revealed! These street racers, whom we thought were just turds dressed up as wankers, are actually at the very forefront of energy research, it’s so obvious why we haven’t ‘twigged’. Using bundles of sticks to fuel their drag racing activities should be applauded, not lambasted.

Assuming I’m not missing the point of the faggot reference of course

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

I’m at a loss … Whats he talking about? food?? I thought Faggot was old fashon meat balls made from offal.

Actually….

fag·ot? ?/?fæg?t/
[fag-uht]

–noun
1. a bundle of sticks, twigs, or branches bound together and used as fuel, a fascine, a torch, etc.
2. a bundle; bunch.
3. a bundle of pieces of iron or steel to be welded, hammered, or rolled together at high temperature.
4. bouquet garni.
–verb (used with object)
5. to bind or make into a fagot.
6. to ornament with fagoting.

Rawhide Kid Part3 said :

Whats he talking about?

Nothing important or relevant.

If he was in a spitting distance he would… well… spit at us rather than giving his intellect, or lack of, a burnout.

I’m at a loss … Whats he talking about? food?? I thought Faggot was old fashon meat balls made from offal.

BenMac said :

They go out in the middle of nowhere and every person that attends knows the risk involved!

If only that’s where it ended. But there are too many of the RushHour participants who can’t get enough, and bring street racing onto a street that is not in the midlle of nowhere.

Everyone thinks they’re invincible, until they’re the ones dying in the street, and most likely taking someone else’s life with them.

Street racing WTF where do u get such information…?

EvanJames said :

You could play Bogan Bingo with that one.

1. Bogan is upset about its fun being thwarted.
2. Bogan uses phrase “get a life” to remonstrate with said thwarters (or those percieved to be thwarting, even if they had nothing to do with it).
3. Bogan uses so many swear words that deciphering the actual sentence is rendered quite difficult.
4. Result being that the reader registers that a bogan is unhappy, but not much more than that.
5. Conclusion: bogan fails, once again, to communicate effectively.

6 Bogan demonstrates pre-primary school grasp of English.

Don’t worry one day he’ll find a bogan of the feminine persuasion who will, for the first time in his life, play “hide the sausage” with him.

Then suddenly burning the tires off his bogan mobile will not seem such a manful heroic feat after all.

You could play Bogan Bingo with that one.

1. Bogan is upset about its fun being thwarted.
2. Bogan uses phrase “get a life” to remonstrate with said thwarters (or those percieved to be thwarting, even if they had nothing to do with it).
3. Bogan uses so many swear words that deciphering the actual sentence is rendered quite difficult.
4. Result being that the reader registers that a bogan is unhappy, but not much more than that.
5. Conclusion: bogan fails, once again, to communicate effectively.

It’s true then, bogans do use profanity as a kind of punctuation.

M0les said :

BTW, what is “RushHour” in this context?

Jackie Chan move appreciation society.

This car club is a disease on society. They should be called ThrushHour.

ha ha, I love reading flame of the week posts, although it doesn’t do much for my faith in humanity.

So small dick posts on here and does exactly what he is ranting and raving about. Grow up you big sook.

The Fast and the Furious.

Are they the same faggots that got caught under the bridge in Qwangers during the flood?

M0les said :

BTW, what is “RushHour” in this context?

The name of a modified car club that organises cruises, etc.

Look you little f*&%w&%s, hate to tell you but we couldnt give a f%$# what you little t*&^% think!

We all did our stupid foolish things without the benefit of a phone with camera/video or having them posted on the internet. We did them knowing the law wasnt going to catch us after the fact and our parents and friends would not find out unless we chose to tell them (well the friends anyway). We did them knowing we were so much wiser, smart, more together than our parents, bosses and other grown ups.

Well congratulation losers. Lets talk in 20 years time.

“I can almost guarentee that every person here has sone something stupid in their life.”

So you admit it was stupid then go on to defend it, go figure..

Pure gold!

They go out in the middle of nowhere and every person that attends knows the risk involved!

If only that’s where it ended. But there are too many of the RushHour participants who can’t get enough, and bring street racing onto a street that is not in the midlle of nowhere.

Everyone thinks they’re invincible, until they’re the ones dying in the street, and most likely taking someone else’s life with them.

Prose worthy of Byron indeed! Not sure if likening the audience to a bundle of sticks is working for me though.

BTW, what is “RushHour” in this context?

Cripes.

Imagine if he’d ended his rant on a LOW note!

All that incoherent rage behind the wheel of a car is pretty scary. This guy went straight from throwing all the toys out of his pram to road rage. I dread to think what he’ll be like when he reaches the Terrible Twos.

Laugh, I nearly shat
Over this pathetic little rant
So, little boys with little dicks
Exfoliating rubber, such skill to behold
Replacement for real skills I would guess
Such an angry little weed

One wonders if said little weed would understand it if I pointed to the first letter of each line and said “Make of that what you will”.