Curfew 4 Canberra group formed

I think you will find that these people purchased cheaply under the flight path, then start agitating to get the airport curfew, hoping then that their properties values will go up!!

Meh…I actually like a bit of aircraft noise, but will probably be entirely unaffected in my current location. Wonder how cheap the houses in Tralee will be…

I hope so el…

Canberra Day celebrations.

We’ve just had 2 jets fly over O’Connor.
Huge amount of noise!
They would have only been a few hundred feet high.

The new flight paths havn’t come into effect have they!?

Has this master plan come into effect already? I live in Dickson, and for the past two days, there’s been a hella lot more jet noise than usual. And this is from 737s, not Canberra Day war memorial displays.

I also want to know where the “third parallel runway” came from? I can’t find it anywhere in the master plan… unless I’ve gone blind.

Are they opposing something that hasn’t even been planned?

I note that in one of the news reports it says abotu 100 residents. Woopdy doo, gee what a great majority they are. 100 out of 350,000 or so.

I love planes, and if I CHOSE to live under the flight path, no I sure as hell wouldn’t complain. It’d be my own stupid fault.

And FYI I lived right on the western side of Queanbeyan, not directly under the flight path, but close enough to hear the noise, as much as you do in Jerrabomberra. Didn’t bother me, my wife or my 3 kids at all, even when they came in late.

In fact, when it was louder than normal, we’d often rush out and have a look at what type of aircraft it was.

it seems I stired 1 or 2 people up earlier (sepi for starters), I grew up under a flight path, I like airplanes and as kid used to watch them come in to land. when I was living at harrison (please note gungahlin al, neither you nor the GCC speaks for me) if I was outside I would watch the planes on a northern track come around the hills. I don’t like a lot of what Snow has done at the airport but I don’t support these fluffy bunny community groups and their umbrella organisations either. they also need to take a look at their restrictions they want on trainee pilots, they probably havent heard but australia needs more pilots right now and making life harder for them won’t help

I hoep the new 2AM to6AM flightpath goes right over your bedroom.

Unfortunately once that is happenning it will be too late to complain.

This is about Planning for the future and future development of Canberra.

And doesn’t anyone think it is wierd that the airport themselves are running the consultation into airport noise and airport expansion?

What a bunch of wankers. The airport was here long before most residential places.

Live with it, you buy under a flight path it’s your own stupid fault, and it’s YOUR fault for the noise sharing, not the airport’s.

You lot are just against growth of any kind. Makes you wonder how Canberra survives with groups like these.

PS: you can read GCC’s submission on the Master Plan here.

Yes Ant – this is a very disappointing reaction from some RA readers.

Curfew4Canberra is an umbrella group incorporating reps from just about all the community groups down the eastern side of Canberra.

There is nothing nimby about it. The group is pragmatic and recognises the important economic and social contribution that the airport makes to Canberra.

But it also questions whether the master plan put forth by the airport is realistic in its aims. If it is, then the noise impacts of some 20 N70 jet movements between 2am and 6am every night will ensure a whole hell of a lot of Canberra residents don’t get much sleep.

So the solution to that is to have an 11pm to 6am curfew put in place now – so that people investing in the airport and surrounds into the future are investing in an informed manner, and without unrealistic expectations of unrestricted flight times.

If the master plan is basically a great big wish list, positioning the airport for sale to someone like – say – Macquarie, then the numbers need to be questioned and corrected.

Which in turn brings into focus the key problem – the development proponent (aka the airport) are the ones who a)prepare the master plan, b) conduct the consultation process, c) assess the public submissions, and d) objectively (?) recommend mitigation measures against the intent of the master plan. As if…

If that isn’t a flawed enough process for RA posters, I don’t know what is.

It certainly is interesting, seeing the rampant self-interest and “I’m alright so screw you” attitudes apparent here.

What most of the sneerers fail to realise is the changes that are to come will affect most people, to varying degrees. You’ll have no protection from government, and once the master plan is approved, you’ll have no come back because it is a private company.

These people are not talking about the way things are NOW, they are talking about what the airport proposes to do.

and yes, I put it up because it’s a Canberra issue, a Canberra group doing something in Canberra about Canberra. It’s newsworthy… in fact the formation of this group got quite a run in the local media back in January.

I think maybe Riot Act is in danger of becoming a cross between a bitchy forum, and a glorified classifieds.

@NatlanaelB – sometimes people post things they don’t necessarily agree with on a personal basis, but are posting it as canberra news, views or just plain gossip. From what I read, Ant saw a sign and probably thought to him/herself I might run this past RA.

*sighs* ant you should have known better than to post something like that here at RiotACT; what did you hope to achieve besides becoming the target of airborne vegies?

It’s the banana principle.

Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.

Noone here has listed any benefits to the community from the airport taking on Sydney airports freight role.

Yep great. Just what we need another minority self interest group of whingers. Whats that going to cost the community. Anyone remember save the ridge?

FFS OK how about we change the title to stop all development in Canberra. Maybe we should introduce an anti progress bill in the assembly.

If you don’t like it move, Belconnen might be better for losers like you.

Lets hope everything your against goes ahead and canberra can become a respectable national capital.

*yawns* nobody ever wants anything built near them. It’s probably one of the best placed airports in the country and their normal flight paths amongst the least disruptive, but I suppose someone has to have a whinge.

If you buy a house near the airport or the flight paths you’re going to have to live with the noise.

The airport was there before most houses anyway, therefore the airport should have precedence over whatever is built under their paths, as long as there aren’t any major changes to them to make them directly over current housing there shouldn’t be a problem.

As for the moronic nsw developments, I say let them build under the flight paths, but they should remove any right for the people who end up living there to start complaining about aircraft noise.

Poor baby Spei, serves yourself right for buying or renting in a place that close to the airport and under a flight path.

I already wake at 6.30 when the jets start going overhead. I definitely Oppose them starting any earlier.

Where are your constructive suggestions?

oppose oppose etc. nothing constructive to add, just oppose anything that someone else wants to do

Don’t suppose we’d get a high-speed train link if we did become their “second airport”..?

I love this idea that Canberra can ever become “Sydney’s Second Airport” It’s laughable and if this bunch of Nimbys believe it then it shows the levels of idiocy rampant in their organisation.