10 October 2024

Was Lee's debate aggression a winner or a turnoff? Well, that depends

| Ian Bushnell
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A feisty Elizabeth Lee makes a point in Tuesday’s Leaders Debate. Photo: Screenshot.

Elizabeth Lee didn’t hold back in Tuesday’s ABC Leaders Debate.

With just the two of them on the stage and one person asking questions, she let people know just what she thought of Andrew Barr.

She sniped, interrupted, talked over and hurled more than a few insults at the Labor leader, who wasn’t about to take the bait, keeping a laser focus on getting his message across.

Ms Lee displayed more range in her performance, from engaging smiles – even an occasional smirk – to indignant finger-pointing to genuine passion.

Not too many facts, but that was not the point.

She was the one making the case for change, and her job was to keep reminding voters that Mr Barr had been there long enough and that she was more than ready and willing to take the reins.

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Mr Barr had seen and heard it all before in the Legislative Assembly, and with just 60 seconds to answer – let’s say respond – to a question, he wasn’t going to waste precious time arguing the toss.

But at least twice, he said a simple fact check would refute Ms Lee’s claims. No chance there. With only a half hour on the clock, moderator James Glenday did his best but had to keep moving on.

Ms Lee’s most unconvincing moments were laced with the most invective when queried about costings and the budget. She said she wasn’t about to take advice from the worst treasurer in the history of self-government who was yet to deliver a budget surplus.

However, when asked about the exit of Elizabeth Kikkert from the party and the demotion of former deputy leader Jeremy Hanson, she successfully asserted that she was capable of making tough decisions.

Mr Barr remained statesmanlike throughout, projecting experience and renovating his leadership credentials by reminding voters of his steadfast service during the pandemic.

Always across the details, he dissected the Liberals’ tax and spending plans and listed Labor achievements across not just this term but the past few and those planned for the next.

However, both leaders ignored the thrust of questions to make their points and, in Ms Lee’s case, turned them around to attack her opponent.

Discovering something new was probably too much to expect after virtually months of campaigning; neither was about to announce anything.

For Ms Lee, it was about style over substance and landing a few blows on her adversary, while Mr Barr ensured he hit his KPIs.

With no clear victor, the debate outcome probably depends on your perspective.

Ms Lee’s feisty performance would have heartened the Liberal base, but it is doubtful that she would have won over disenchanted Labor voters toying with changing columns. In fact, her open disrespect for the Chief Minister may have been a turnoff.

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Word is those Labor voters won’t turn blue but are looking to independents to send a message. If the next government does hang on a couple of independents, Ms Lee might have to tone down the uncompromising manner she took into the debate.

But Labor remains confident that its primary vote will hold up sufficiently to hang on to its 10 seats and that the Liberal disarray in Ginninderra might furnish another. Throw in the Greens, and you can see how hard it will be for the Liberals.

Ms Lee might mock the Chief Minister’s economic chops, but his head for numbers extends to how the votes may fall.

They have one more bout next Wednesday at the Property Council Leaders Debate. But by then, especially with early voting, there won’t be too many undecideds left to woo.

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J a c k d a w12:54 pm 11 Oct 24

Bias is in the eye of the Reader.
Reads like a subtly biased report to me.

People might better watch first, to make up their Own minds.

Women are not allowed as much leeway as men in so-called “aggression”.
Even being rather assertive in women can be called “aggressive”.

That nonsense about trying to prise off red rusted-on Voters, is painful.

Lee “mocking” the Chief Minister’s/Treasurer’s “economic chops” is a gratuitous Bushnell ambiguity, I’d say.
This ten-year Barr red/green administration deserves the comprehensive criticism which Jon Stanhope (former CM) AND Dr K. Ahmed (former senior ACT Treasury official) analyse in “Ugly Face of How a Government Failed Canberra” in the election-special CBR City News dated October 10, is this week’s salutary reading, compared with MR Bushnell’s opinion piece.

And what “chops”, for goodness’ sake ??
The ALP/Green Barr/Rattenbury have become notorious for ratepayers’ money wasted and gross over-spending into our Children’s and Grand-children’s futures.
But Lee is accused in a time-limited “debate” of mocking her “statesmanlike” opponent.
Oh, really, Please !

Truly, it IS Time !
The headlined City News this week IS well worth a close read, I’d respectfully suggest.
And may the best team win .. .. and may they be assisted by some independently-minded “independents”.

Barr didn’t have laser focus, he was in his “shed in the head” and it was a blank stare as he tried to come up with his rehearsals of psychobabble. Lee was trying to wake him up!

devils_advocate10:03 am 11 Oct 24

Lmao

“Aggressive”

“Attack”

Yeah calling out a sitting chief minister on his BS doesn’t sit too well does it

After hearing about how feisty and aggressive Ms Lee was, I ended watching the debate on Iview.

Andrew Barr, spoke with clarity and control, but he also looked disinterested in engaging with the Liberal leader and I think for gender reasons didn’t want to aggressively attack the tiny Ms Lee the way he previously treated Zed and Coe.

Ms Lee was far less aggressive and interrupting than I expected (based on the media and Labor criticism), but the last five minutes she definitely overdid it, to her detriment.

Mr Bushnell is unfortunately more politically biased than a Sky News commentator and hard to take credibly.

No, really – no-one is more biased than a Sky News commentator.
And, yes, the interruptions were distracting considering the Chief Minister didn’t interrupt Ms Lee.

Well done BJ demonstrating balanced reporting. (PS @RiotACT can we have a like button please :))

Yes, in all honesty definitely not worse than the ridiculous Sky News, but Ian has been pretty poor these last few months and clearly not even trying to hold the government to account or fact check claims.

Agreed. Bushnell’s articles sometimes show some even handedness, but this ranks highly amongst those clearly favouring the ALP. It didn’t even mention that Barr claimed the feds are onboard for 50/50 funding of stage 2B, when all they’ve done is put in some money for design work. There is no commitment to fund the construction. Any reputable cost benefit will sink it from the feds point of view, because the benefits will be only a fraction of the costs.

Wow! This might be the most biased article I’ve read by Mr Bushnell yet! It reads like Mr Barr fan fiction with statements like “remained statesman like throughout”. And then statements like always across the details, ignoring the fact that many disenfranchised voters want him to be transparent with some of that detail with the rest of us. Please Mr Bushnell, at least be transparent that you’re writing an opinion piece on your preferred candidate rather than an independent piece of journalism.

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