Stanhope seeks a second opinion on aircraft noise

This is about planning for the future so we don’t end up like that.

In the CT today the airport is aiming for one plane every 2 minutes at night.

This is a piss-take right? You have no air traffic!!! I have a plane go over my house every minute from 747s (soon to be joined by A380s) coming in from Singapore and Hong Kong at 5am to the last Euro shuttles at midnight. What a joke; a country town with one plane every hour or so comissioning an aircraft noise study!!!

It all pales from the good old days when Concorde used to fly over my house. You’d hear it five minutes before you’d see it.

I don’t want the airport acting as a 24/7 hub when they can’t even get Sydney to agree to lift the curfew.

The Hackett residents are right to be concerned. I hate it when planes fly over on the odd occasion and that’s nothing compared to how it must be for those in the noise zone.

I seriously hope this does not go down the power station road though (you know, agree to consult but quietly allow private industry trample all over residents, for the holy economy).

Ha!

deezagood said :

This (listening to the community and taking the required action) sounds very unlike Mr Stanhope.

Yep, and it’ll never last!

This (listening to the community and taking the required action) sounds very unlike Mr Stanhope.

harvyk1 I think what was planned in 1920 as a local aerodrome/airfield was far different to the reality of a international capable airport/freight hub circa 2008.

Yes – I should have closely examined flight path information before choosing a house in an established suburb.

My comments is that there are very few people who live in affected suburbs who could have had no knowledge of the airport or it’s plans. Infact the site was picked for an airfield in 1920. Before any major development of Canberra had started.

I don’t want to see a repear of Sydney where you had the population move in closer and closer and then jumped up and down about the airport noise until the curfew was introduced, and yet that is exactly what developers are trying to do in Canberra.

Also the same arguments could be said about people who brought houses near what where at one stage quite suburban roads and yet they are then upgraded to handle the higher traffic loads.

I’m always fascinated to see the fierce way people respond when other people are affected by noise or some other annoyance, and seek to do something about it.

I live 30kms from the airport, to the east. I’ve noticed the lines of planes coming in, heaps more than there used to be, and have been woken up in the early hours by turbo-props droning overhead as they descend in to the airport. I’m not on a flight path, I’m no where near the airport, and yet it’s pretty evident that more than just people close to the airport are being affected now, and can expected to be increasingly affected as the airport ramps up flight operations.

The people who are doing something about it now are the canaries in the coalmine, as it were. They are reacting first but it is a problem that is going to grow, adn if it’s not dealt-with now, it will be worse for everyone. yes, even those complaining about “nimbys”. I cannot fathom why people become so venemous about those who try to do something about a problem like this.

I thought your comments above related to the suburb of Hackett, not to me personally.

sepi said :

yep – cause if you bought a house in Hackett, a fair distance from the tiny airport, in 1963, you should fully expect to have jets overhead every 3 minutes all night once the airport becomes sydney’s freight hub later on.

So sepi, did you buy a house in Hackett in 1963? or are you using it as an example?

yep – cause if you bought a house in Hackett, a fair distance from the tiny airport, in 1963, you should fully expect to have jets overhead every 3 minutes all night once the airport becomes sydney’s freight hub later on.

Ant and sepi are correct. And this is heightened by concerns about the airport’sgoal of operating freight 24/7. Freights jets are generally larger, older, and therefore substantially noiser. Plus they operate at very odd hours. We hear the jets very well at 6am at Harrison thank you – at Hackett it must be a whole lot worse. And AG, I think it might be a toss-up as to whether Hackett or the airport came first…

When I attend the “Airport Community Noise Consultative Forum” every couple of months, AirServices Australia reps and the airport chair regularly make remarks that tend towards poo-poohing of the noise complaints made from certain Hackett residents.

The noise monitoring equipment was removed some time back – and since then air traffic has increased considerably – as the airport pointed out when they emailed me the latest ASA Quarterly aircraft movements report. Several meetings ago, I suggested that if they were so sure of their position that the complaints were spurious, then they should just put their noise monitoring equipment back in there, and we’d soon know whether the complaints were justified or not. The meeting concurred.

It is pleasing then to see that it is finally happening.

Curfew 4 Canberra got a pretty good reception with Jon Stanhope a few months back, and we did raise the issue of noise monitoring with him, and I recall him being supportive of it. But it was already the position of the Forum meeting to go ahead with it. Jonathon Reynolds attended the last Forum meeting and it was advised then that the moniroting would proceed.

AG Canberra said :

The residents of Hackett….can’t.

Again – the airport has been there longer than any homes so these guys need to get over it. Unless they have somehow altered the orientation of the runways the approaches in both directions remain the same. Maybe the residents are just getting older – and are home more so hear the noise more.?.?

My thoughts exactly. Live near an airport expect airport noise. The only resident I’ll agree with is a Hackett resident that has lived there consistantly since the 1920’s. Everyone else their airport was there first, deal with it.

It is planes taking off that cause noise in Hackett, not landing.

Or perhaps the volume of air traffic is increasing (it is) and the hours during which planes arrive and depart are expanding (they are).

The residents of Hackett….can’t.

Again – the airport has been there longer than any homes so these guys need to get over it. Unless they have somehow altered the orientation of the runways the approaches in both directions remain the same. Maybe the residents are just getting older – and are home more so hear the noise more.?.?

I live near a busy road – will the local council come and do a noise survey for me too?

That’s exactly what I thought!!

Well I guess the skies over Hackett will be quiet for six months. They should have done the study, without the announcement.