And there was much honking

justin heywood said :

In my experience, the fundamentalist ideologues are much more common on the left side of politics

Such as the lefty pinko that denied Australian women access to RU-486, considers gay marriage to be a “fashion of the moment,” denies that climate change is actually happening, and doesn’t believe that women have any place in management or politics (because they are physiologically incapable of leading any organisation that matters).

The same lefty rabbiting on about how he is proud to bear the white man’s burden in his election victory speech. Nope, no fundamentalist ideology there!

Roundhead89 said :

This picture is disturbing because it indicates that the left wing rabble in lefty city might slip into sour grapes, whinging mode about the new government. I am not used to picking up The Canberra Times and having to look at their garbage every day in the letters page. To all left wingers I say SHUT UP. We won, you lost and there is no room for you now. Leave the country now, like you were all threatening to do on Facebook and Twitter.

On a side note, it seems that the phenomenon of “the deep south” where Tuggeranong became a Liberal stronghold at last year’s Assembly election has disappeared. The Greens vote seems universal throughout Canberra so Zed wasn’t able to move that personal following from the Assembly to the Senate. I would say that his destruction of Humphries was a major political blunder because he has left the Libs floundering in the Assembly whereas if he’d have stayed on it was 99% certain he’d be chief minister in 3 years. Now in the Senate he has turned what should be a safe seat into an ultra marginal one where a blow-in candidate from interstate (described as a “fly-in, fly-out lobbyist” by the candidate he dumped) was almost able to be elected despite a nationwide swing against The Greens.

The massive barrage of Greens and Labor advertising probably brought about the result in the ACT. Every ad break was full of their propaganda – there was hardly any Liberal ads at all. Where did they get the money for these ads? It was unprecedented for such a barrage of left wing ads in the local area, the city of the true believers. I realise these ads were directed to voters across the border in Eden Monaro but it was still very disconcerting to have these nasty, snarling ads formulated by Americans shouting at me every few seconds, especially since Rudd said he wated to stay positive. And I was very surprised that those Labor ads whining about Liberal cuts to the public service, education and other areas were actually running nationwide, not just in the Canberra bureaucratic piranha pool. Another indication of how out of touch with the real world Labor became in government.

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Darkfalz said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

I would love to move somewhere else than this country full of morons.

What’s stopping you? You need these “morons” to pay the taxes you benefit from?

Haha nice try. I have never been on any type of benefits.

What’s stopping me is my wife likes it here.

justin heywood said :

But labor has proven to be entirely pragmatic on the issue. Much posturing about ‘the gretest moral challenge of our age’ is useful to get inner-city votes, but any actual commitment to doing something about it evaporates when votes are on the line.
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er…except the ALP implemented a Carbon Tax, funded renewable investment corporation/agency, funded solar rebates, and funded a home insulation scheme, the upshot of all of which was a reduction in energy consumption, an increase in renewable investment, and the closure of a few coal-burning plants.

Action, not posturing.

Once again, you write stuff that is in-line with an ideology, not the result of recognising real-world facts.

Robertson said :

justin heywood said :

It takes a special kind of dumb arrogance to think that anyone whose politics doesn’t mirror your own is stupid.

On the other hand, all it takes is a modicum of intelligence to know that anybody who says, “science is crap” is stupid, and therefore to question the intelligence of his supporters.

So, tell us Justin – how do you support a stupid and yet retain a belief that you are not?

But voting labor isnt going to fix climate change, is it? If I thought it would even make a small difference I would vote labor too.

But labor has proven to be entirely pragmatic on the issue. Much posturing about ‘the gretest moral challenge of our age’ is useful to get inner-city votes, but any actual commitment to doing something about it evaporates when votes are on the line. And the situation is unlikely to change while unions effectively run labor.

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justin heywood said :

It takes a special kind of dumb arrogance to think that anyone whose politics doesn’t mirror your own is stupid.

On the other hand, all it takes is a modicum of intelligence to know that anybody who says, “science is crap” is stupid, and therefore to question the intelligence of his supporters.

So, tell us Justin – how do you support a stupid and yet retain a belief that you are not?

Postalgeek said :

The massive barrage of Greens and Labor advertising probably brought about the result in the ACT. Every ad break was full of their propaganda – there was hardly any Liberal ads at all. Where did they get the money for these ads?

Lefties with money? What an outrage. I’m sure Abbott will implement his vision of no money for anybody unless they went to a privileged North Shore school.

A bunch of left leaning undergrads with a sign.

Albeit, a not very original or surprising sign.

Exactly what is the problem here?

Roundhead89 said :

This picture is disturbing because it indicates that the left wing rabble in lefty city might slip into sour grapes, whinging mode about the new government. I am not used to picking up The Canberra Times and having to look at their garbage every day in the letters page. To all left wingers I say SHUT UP. We won, you lost and there is no room for you now. Leave the country now, like you were all threatening to do on Facebook and Twitter.

On a side note, it seems that the phenomenon of “the deep south” where Tuggeranong became a Liberal stronghold at last year’s Assembly election has disappeared. The Greens vote seems universal throughout Canberra so Zed wasn’t able to move that personal following from the Assembly to the Senate. I would say that his destruction of Humphries was a major political blunder because he has left the Libs floundering in the Assembly whereas if he’d have stayed on it was 99% certain he’d be chief minister in 3 years. Now in the Senate he has turned what should be a safe seat into an ultra marginal one where a blow-in candidate from interstate (described as a “fly-in, fly-out lobbyist” by the candidate he dumped) was almost able to be elected despite a nationwide swing against The Greens.

The massive barrage of Greens and Labor advertising probably brought about the result in the ACT. Every ad break was full of their propaganda – there was hardly any Liberal ads at all. Where did they get the money for these ads? It was unprecedented for such a barrage of left wing ads in the local area, the city of the true believers. I realise these ads were directed to voters across the border in Eden Monaro but it was still very disconcerting to have these nasty, snarling ads formulated by Americans shouting at me every few seconds, especially since Rudd said he wated to stay positive. And I was very surprised that those Labor ads whining about Liberal cuts to the public service, education and other areas were actually running nationwide, not just in the Canberra bureaucratic piranha pool. Another indication of how out of touch with the real world Labor became in government.

Roundhead89 said :

This picture is disturbing because it indicates that the left wing rabble in lefty city might slip into sour grapes, whinging mode about the new government. I am not used to picking up The Canberra Times and having to look at their garbage every day in the letters page. To all left wingers I say SHUT UP. We won, you lost and there is no room for you now. Leave the country now, like you were all threatening to do on Facebook and Twitter.
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Actually, that’s not how democracy works at all. There’s a little thing about freedom of speech, and there is room for a diversity of opinion. No-one has to leave the country.

Robertson said :

http://tinyurl.com/ommxkbl

See that? There is currently a falling trend of -50mm/year of rainfall in some of Queensland’s most densely-populated areas..

Balls.

That should read,
There is currently a falling trend of -50mm/decade of rainfall in some of Queensland’s most densely-populated areas..

Darkfalz said :

I don’t think the science is necessarily crap. There is certainly an affect of human behaviour on the environment, and possibly a slight affect on climate.

What you think and what the science says are two very different things: the science says a doubling of CO2 from pre-industrial levels will cause 3 degrees of warming. The science says that 3 degrees of warming will entail serious consequences to agriculture, fisheries, the energy available to destructive weather events, and low-lying human habitation due to sea level rise.

I’ll take the science over your opinion, any day.

Darkfalz said :

I believe the predictions are mostly irresponsible hyperbole (you only need to look at the ridiculous things Tim Flannery claimed as recently as a few years ago), as well as opportunistically blaming every warm day, cyclone or flood on global warming.

Did you know – What Alan Jones says Tim Flannery says and what Tim FLannery actually says, are two completely different things?
Here is what Tim Flannery was trying to explain in very simple terms so even the layman (but not Alan Jones or Tony Abbott, clearly) could understand him:
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/index.shtml#tabs=Tracker&tracker=trend-maps&tQ%5Bmap%5D=rain&tQ%5Barea%5D=aus&tQ%5Bseason%5D=0112&tQ%5Bperiod%5D=1970

http://tinyurl.com/ommxkbl

See that? There is currently a falling trend of -50mm/year of rainfall in some of Queensland’s most densely-populated areas.

I wonder at what point it will click in your head, Darkfalz, that the unmitigated rubbish coming from Alan Jones is causing you to be misled?

Darkfalz said :

Forgive me if I think cleaning up waterways, planting trees and so on will do more actual good for our environment than trading in fake carbon credits which will be ultimately rorted by overseas government.

Channeling Alan Jones again, I see.

Better minds than yours have detailed how a carbon market does work to divert investment away from fossil-fuel industries and into clean energy instead.
Maybe do some research instead of parroting the parrot.