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ANU sliding?

By johnboy - 9 September 2010 30

The Canberra Times brings word that ANU is falling down on its beloved world rankings.

The largest university in the nation’s capital dropped three places on the coveted QS World University rankings.

ANU was placed at No20 this week, its lowest since being included on the list, but it remains the highest-ranked university in Australia.

The university’s vice-chancellor, Professor Ian Chubb, has in the past used ANU’s strong rankings to argue for better funding.

ANU’s acting vice-chancellor, Professor Lawrence Cram, said yesterday a university could not be boiled down to a raw data score.

You win some, you lose some.

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ANU sliding?
NoAddedMSG 7:56 am 10 Sep 10

There are a few dire predictions floating around about the sustainability of the international student market, I know that some of it is just scare tactics by the unis to try and get the govt to write the policy they want, however not all of it is. Anecdotally, I have talked to a lot of international students this year who have expressed concern about how legislation changes have affected their chances of getting PR – something which will be detering new students, India and China are rapidly expanding their tertiary education sector and so on…. ANU needs to hold on to its world rankings because if the pool of international students shrinks, ANU needs to keep its pulling power and ability to have first pick of everyone.

justin heywood 10:56 pm 09 Sep 10

Jeez people. You’ve got one of the best universities IN THE WORLD just down the road in this little old town and you’re STILL whinging?

The cat did it 6:21 pm 09 Sep 10

ANU might get high rankings on the basis of its research, but it’s the overseas fee-paying undergrads that provide the income. Sounds like a bait-and-switch operation to me. How long before these undergrads realise they aren’t actually getting good value for their money, and choose to go elsewhere?

p1 5:56 pm 09 Sep 10

sepi said :

ANU’s high rankings are all for their higher level research.

Undergraduate degrees there are pretty poor in a lot of ways – enormous lectures, huge tutorials, lecturers away and not covered for, minimal personal attention to undergraduate students.

There must be a lot of variation between subjects. The only enormous lectures I ever had were first year stats.

I-filed 5:27 pm 09 Sep 10

bobbatty said :

Wow, talk about sour grapes. I KNOW that you were rejected from UC.

anu graduate and ccae mba in progress (I’m ashamed to say) actually

gospeedygo 3:54 pm 09 Sep 10

random said :

The rankings are ridiculous; you boast about them when you can and tell the truth when you can’t.

The Chronicle of Higher Education had an interesting chart a week ago comparing six different rankings (though four are American only). There is not a single measure of quality that all of them agree on.

Sorry I don’t read that, I just leave it on the lawn to pollute my surroundings with the plastic.

Woody Mann-Caruso 3:48 pm 09 Sep 10

Wow, talk about sour grapes.

You’d know all about grapes, having gone to a glorified agricultural college. 😛

bobbatty 2:17 pm 09 Sep 10

I-filed said :

bd84 said :

Where did UC place? Oh that’s right, they only measure good universities..

CCAE didn’t place anywhere near the top 200. It isn’t a proper university in any case.

Wow, talk about sour grapes. I KNOW that you were rejected from UC. If you bothered to have a fresh look at Belco, and by extension Bruce, you would KNOW that they are on the rise!

As was said by

sepi said :

ANU’s high rankings are all for their higher level research. Undergraduate degrees there are pretty poor in a lot of ways – enormous lectures, huge tutorials, lecturers away and not covered for, minimal personal attention to undergraduate students.

I-filed 1:33 pm 09 Sep 10

bd84 said :

Where did UC place? Oh that’s right, they only measure good universities..

CCAE didn’t place anywhere near the top 200. It isn’t a proper university in any case.

random 1:12 pm 09 Sep 10

The rankings are ridiculous; you boast about them when you can and tell the truth when you can’t.

The Chronicle of Higher Education had an interesting chart a week ago comparing six different rankings (though four are American only). There is not a single measure of quality that all of them agree on.

bd84 12:20 pm 09 Sep 10

Where did UC place? Oh that’s right, they only measure good universities..

fozzy 12:01 pm 09 Sep 10

There was a discussion about this on RN’s Life Matters today:

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/lifematters/stories/2010/3006329.htm

It seems most of the drop is in a change in the way it’s measured. Oz Unis generally lost out because of a change in the weighting of student teacher ratios.

Spectra 11:32 am 09 Sep 10

You win some, you lose some.

And when you lose them, you simply downplay of the rankings which you were previously so proud 🙂 The Libs were doing exactly the same thing when Labor was leading the 2PP votes (“2PP is not as relevant as first preference votes”), then not leading (“This 2PP result shows that Labor has lost the right to govern”) then leading again (“Are you still talking about that? It’s not important”). Of course, Labor were saying much the same things, just in reverse.

I’m sure the ranking would climb again if people could just find their way around that bloody mess of a campus…

Man, that’s rich coming from someone who lives in Gungahlin 😉

sepi 10:53 am 09 Sep 10

ANU’s high rankings are all for their higher level research.

Undergraduate degrees there are pretty poor in a lot of ways – enormous lectures, huge tutorials, lecturers away and not covered for, minimal personal attention to undergraduate students.

Gungahlin Al 10:37 am 09 Sep 10

16th – 20th. In the whole flipping world. Hardly worth getting all breathless over is it?

On a related topic, I’m sure the ranking would climb again if people could just find their way around that bloody mess of a campus…

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