Barr orders review of trading hours

scumdorg 21 January 2008 35

Today’s Canberra Times is reporting that minister for everything Andrew Barr has ordered a review of ACT shopping hours. Apparently Andrew is not impressed with shops opening on Boxing Day and wants to introduce a NSW-style scheme where shops in the city centre open while those in the suburbs remain closed. The future of late night shopping is also on the table.

Trading hours were deregulated in 1997 and shops have tailored their hours to public demand. I like the idea of being able to shop when I want and not have the doors shut in my face at 4PM or 12 noon Saturday as we used to suffer a few years back.

Why has Barr done this? It sounds very much like making work for idle hands during the silly season. The last thing anybody wants is to go back to the bad old days when Joe De Bruyin and the SDA were calling the shots and had governments bowing and scraping at their feet.

As Stan Zemanek used to say “that’s my opinion and I welcome yours”.

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35 Responses to Barr orders review of trading hours
ant ant 10:28 am 27 Jan 08

I’ve been waiting for Queanbeyan to raise a screech over this, but nothing yet. Thursday nights, quite a few ACT numbers plates are in town doing their shopping, and ACT going to Thursday night shopping would put the kybosh on this.

Incidentally, you can avoid the weekend queuing debacle in Spotlight by going on Thursday nights (and you get all the good stuff as they start their sales on Thursdays).

Dante Dante 11:28 am 22 Jan 08

If you work in retail you’d surely be aware that you’ll have to work Boxing Day and some ‘public holidays’. It’s a given. Most of you won’t complain when you get your paycheques for the day though.

RE: consultation in this town… all I can think of is The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

“But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine month.”

“Oh yes, well as soon as I heard I went straight round to see them, yesterday afternoon. You hadn’t exactly gone out of your way to call attention to them, had you? I mean, like actually telling anybody or anything.”

“But the plans were on display …”

“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

“That’s the display department.”

“With a flashlight.”

“Ah, well the lights had probably gone.”

“So had the stairs.”

“But look, you found the notice didn’t you?”

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard’.”

Mælinar Mælinar 9:00 am 22 Jan 08

Let the shop doors be open whenever I want to buy something.

Let retailers charge an absolute fortune to those stupid enough to think that a sale actually means they are getting a bargain.

Let shopworkers get paid a princes ransom for working on holiday time.

Somebody buy Barr a new pillow.

Thumper Thumper 8:21 am 22 Jan 08

I only hope Mr Barr is adopting a public consultation where we can all officially put our views forward instead of writing on RiotACT threads.

Consultation? In this town?

you’ll do what you’re told sonny.

Deano Deano 12:34 am 22 Jan 08

And while we’re at it can we please ban Easter eggs and hot cross buns until after February and Christmas decorations until after November.

ant ant 12:07 am 22 Jan 08

Cruel! Evil, and cruel.

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barking toad barking toad 9:59 pm 21 Jan 08

Perhaps Andy bought a pillow on Boxing Day that didn’t taste right.

Samantha Samantha 9:53 pm 21 Jan 08

I am also retail worker and am glad the issue has been raised. there should be an open public debate about the best late night shopping night and whether the shops should open on Boxing Day.

Barr has ruled out the return of government regulated shopping hours according to the canberra times and the abc – so that isn’t an issue.

The issue is Thursday or Friday for late night and whether the retailers start the X-mas sales on the 26th or 27th. my two cents worth – thursday and the 27th. 2 days over xhristmas without the shops won’t kill us and will give staff a bit of a break.

witm witm 9:30 pm 21 Jan 08

Having been in retail for over five years I thought I’d put my two cents in. Late night shopping seems to work well although foot traffic is incredibly varied. Whilst Mr Barr may legislatively decree days for shops to be closed, his second enemy he will encounter will be the centre managers themselves. Have a look at most standard form rental contracts from Centro or Westfield and you’ll find your trading hours mandated for the good of the centre. My employer would love to close on Boxing Day to spend time with his family and would love to give his employees the same opportunity but he would be fined for doing so. Sure – things like ANZAC Day and Easter have simply become excuses for spending a lot of dosh on advertising and having a ‘sale’ for no other reason than to get people through the door. I deplore this practice but I can’t argue with its financial benefits. I only hope Mr Barr is adopting a public consultation where we can all officially put our views forward instead of writing on RiotACT threads.

David MacCormack David MacCormack 6:45 pm 21 Jan 08

Didn’t we go through this crap when Carnell brought in her anti-competitive supermarket opening laws at the behest of her small business mates, and had to give in 12 months later?

You really can’t beat small retailers for whingeing. You wonder who the evil genius is who put a gun to their heads and made them start a business in a competitive industry.

boomacat boomacat 6:07 pm 21 Jan 08

I say let the market dictate when shops open.

Re late night shopping, I prefer Thursday but don’t really care too much.

Why am I posting then? I don’t know.

staria staria 5:52 pm 21 Jan 08

Off topic: The whole “I had to walk 50 miles in the rain/hail/snow/bushfires with nothing but empty tissue boxes on my feet so I could get to my 18 hour job/study/beating” gets kinda tired. Shouldn’t we be trying to improve things?

On topic: personally I think it would suck to have late night shopping move to Thursdays. If I really need to go to the shops that badly that it has to be after work, at least on Fridays there is a sense that it’s the start of the weekend (well, there is for the Mon to Fri-ers anyway). I don’t think I’d go if it were on a Thursday instead…

VYBerlinaV8 VYBerlinaV8 3:39 pm 21 Jan 08

“Also thursday night shopping.. is it fair for the kids to have to work thursday night then have school uni on friday? If ur gonna be at school all day then work all half the night it may as well be friday.”

Cry me a river, princess… Plenty of people I know (including myself) studied tough degrees and worked multiple jobs to support themselves.

Shops should be able to open whenever they want, to give us, the consumers, the best possible choice. It’s up to us to decide what, when and where we buy things – why not let the free market compete for that business?

caf caf 3:35 pm 21 Jan 08

I think (I’m not completely certain though) that the push for this is coming from small retailers in the big malls that get pressured by mall management to open on Boxing Day.

Dante Dante 3:04 pm 21 Jan 08

…and just what has prompted this ‘review’?

Somehow I don’t think that businesses want the hours changed… is there some huge public outcry over trading hours that I haven’t heard about?

And Crikey, the Liquor Board does a good job of mandating unreasonable conditions on nightclubs already, especially when it’s not in their jurisdiction.

If they wanted to modify nightclub trading hours they could.. it hasn’t stopped them in the past.

hingo hingo 2:33 pm 21 Jan 08

What is the significance of the shops being closed dmac? What purpose does it serve? If you haven’t noticed, shops are open every other day for our convenience and I don’t see how a public holiday should be treated any differently.

howdy howdy 2:33 pm 21 Jan 08

I’m able to think AND breathe? Now you tell me…

dmac dmac 2:28 pm 21 Jan 08

pffft, if you can’t survive the shops being closed for two days you probably can’t think and breathe at the same time.

Aurelius Aurelius 2:27 pm 21 Jan 08

Shops should be able to open whenever they want.
Anyone who thinks otherwise should move to Brisbane – where the supermarkets close on 5pm on weekends.

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