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By johnboy - 10 March 2012 120

The ABC has the news of a major accident yesterday on the Kings Highway:

A man and his two young daughters have been killed in a car accident near Canberra during heavy rain.

Police say the 52-year-old man and his eight and 10-year-old daughters died when their car collided with another car on the Kings Highway near Braidwood on Friday afternoon.

A 43-year-old man, a 39-year-old woman and two girls aged 11 and 13 in the other car were all taken to Canberra Hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

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Braidwood monster smash
Sturmovik 1:05 am 11 Mar 12

screaming banshee said :

HenryBG said :

We can’t afford good roads because we need a Human Rights Commissioner, public art that looks like rubbish, and a 5-star accomodation centre for criminal scum.

What has what the ACT can and cannot afford got to do with the quality of roads in NSW. Or do you like so many Canberrans feel they own the road to the coast?

I think the ACT should bare some resposibility for the upgrade of various NSW roads, but on the other hand NSW gets quite a bit of benefit from Canberrans spending money at the Coast and the Snow during the holidays.

screaming banshee 12:31 am 11 Mar 12

HenryBG said :

We can’t afford good roads because we need a Human Rights Commissioner, public art that looks like rubbish, and a 5-star accomodation centre for criminal scum.

What has what the ACT can and cannot afford got to do with the quality of roads in NSW. Or do you like so many Canberrans feel they own the road to the coast?

HenryBG 10:23 pm 10 Mar 12

damien haas said :

The road is a disgrace.

It needs to be upgraded as a priority. Severe pressure should be applied to local members at federal and state level.

This ‘accident’ is a preventable occurrence by using modern road engineering.

We can’t afford good roads because we need a Human Rights Commissioner, public art that looks like rubbish, and a 5-star accomodation centre for criminal scum.

EvanJames 10:04 pm 10 Mar 12

c_c said :

It’s terrible and without knowing the facts which are under investigation, I wouldn’t want to speak specifically to this case. Generally though the road has a bad name but 9/10 times it’s the drivers who create the hazard.

Whenever there’s a crash, everyone blames the road and demands billions of dollars of upgrades.

there is nothing wrong with the road, the problem is with the attitude of those using it. Ask the locals, they make rude remarks about the blue and white plates driven by lunatics.

I note the people killed didn’t have blue and white plates, and we don’t yet know what happened, but rather than paying billions of dollars and seeing endless roadworks for decades, how about people start thinking about driving to their abilities? And if there’s a line of slower cars up ahead, how about just slowing down and dealing with it rather than going crazy trying to overtake them all?

grunge_hippy 10:02 pm 10 Mar 12

considering I know tools who boast about making it to the coast “in 1 hour, fully fanging it” its any wonder there arent more deaths.

I’m not saying this man was doing that, but its a scary bit of road past Braidwood, and with douchebags who treat it like their own personal race track its not good. not safe.

Sturmovik 9:11 pm 10 Mar 12

Im going to go against the grain here, but theres nothing particulary wrong with the road, its the people that travel on it thats the problem. For a country NSW road its pretty damn good.

Ive driven that road dozens and dozens or times, and it has plenty of overtaking lanes for its length, its wide enough for a two lane road, has wide enough shoulders etc. Its not a main trucking route so you dont have that problem, unlike the Hume many years ago, or the Barton still today.

Biggest problem is people constantly in a rush to either get home, or to the coast. The amount of close calls ive had from people unnecessarily overtaking at the wrong times is crazy. Why are people overtaking 500m from an overtaking lane? And often these people are towing caravans or boats FFS. And why are these people overtaking people who are already doing the limit?

Could the road be better? Of course. It may eventually be dual carriageway to Bungendore or Braidwood. But its extremely unlikely to be duplicated between Braidwood and the Coast in our lifetimes, which is exactly where this accident occured.

One problem is that isnt the road’s or people’s fault is when heading west at sundown, you do cop an eyefull of blinding sun quite often. But theres nothing that can be done about that, dual carriage way or not.

Rant off 😉

IrishPete 8:48 pm 10 Mar 12

rbw said :

Just horrific. I remember my parents taking me down the coast several times a year for holidays to Broulee. As a kid around those ages of 11 and 13 I always lived in fear about that road trip as my dad would overtake on the wrong side of the road over and over. Those poor girls had to face my worst fear. Their passing looks to have been instantaneous so I hope they did not suffer for a minute or two.

Looks like in this crash no overtaking involved, their dad just lost control on a bend and veered onto the wrong side of the road.

I still drive this road back and forth all the time. Please only do it when you are fresh and alert!

I note your comment that your dad overtook on the “wrong” side of the road. On which side of the road do you overtake? I don’t think it’s possible to overtake without going onto the “wrong” side of the road, unless you only overtake at the rare stretches with overtaking lanes. Overtaking is legal, and safe, at lots of other points.

I recommend overtaking on the “wrong” side of the road (as you can’t do it on the “right” side of the road, unless you overtake on the left), with as much acceleration as possible (bugger the speed limit, but drive to the conditions) so that you’re on the wrong side of the road for the least amount of time and distance. Overtaking a car doing 95km/h by accelerating to 100km/h only is plain crazy. Better just to stay behind them.

Not a comment on this accident, but only on this post.

IP

damien haas 4:54 pm 10 Mar 12

The road is a disgrace.

It needs to be upgraded as a priority. Severe pressure should be applied to local members at federal and state level.

This ‘accident’ is a preventable occurrence by using modern road engineering.

Tetranitrate 3:53 pm 10 Mar 12

c_c said :

It’s terrible and without knowing the facts which are under investigation, I wouldn’t want to speak specifically to this case. Generally though the road has a bad name but 9/10 times it’s the drivers who create the hazard. Road improvements would go a long way to making it safe, i.e. cope with bad driving, as would these tips:

If you can’t drive at 100km/h, don’t use the road. Too many infirm people driving well below the limit (on straight stretches even) causing traffic the build up.

If you can’t make it around an on camber corner without crossing the unbroken line into oncoming traffic, don’t use it.

And if you think it’s safe to overtake near a blind corner doing well over 100 on the wrong side of the road, seriously don’t drive it.

Wow, the blood isn’t even dry yet and you’re already out there victim blaming and agenda-pushing.

c_c 3:41 pm 10 Mar 12

It’s terrible and without knowing the facts which are under investigation, I wouldn’t want to speak specifically to this case. Generally though the road has a bad name but 9/10 times it’s the drivers who create the hazard. Road improvements would go a long way to making it safe, i.e. cope with bad driving, as would these tips:

If you can’t drive at 100km/h, don’t use the road. Too many infirm people driving well below the limit (on straight stretches even) causing traffic the build up.

If you can’t make it around an on camber corner without crossing the unbroken line into oncoming traffic, don’t use it.

And if you think it’s safe to overtake near a blind corner doing well over 100 on the wrong side of the road, seriously don’t drive it.

Sgt.Bungers 3:26 pm 10 Mar 12

My condolences to to the families involved.

GardeningGirl 2:12 pm 10 Mar 12

Terrible news. My thoughts are with the families, and with those who attended the scene.
We drive that road regularly but not as often as we would if the road was in better condition. Nevertheless it’s not that bad if you drive appropriate to the conditions, unfortunately there’s always at least one or two times each trip when we say “did you see what that driver just did!”. That’s not intended as a comment on this tragic story (there’s been no suggestion of anything wrong like the crazy overtaking that is seen on that road) but just a comment on that road in general. Like rbw my family used to holiday at Broulee and its a nervewracking trip. Please be careful everyone.

rbw 12:42 pm 10 Mar 12

Just horrific. I remember my parents taking me down the coast several times a year for holidays to Broulee. As a kid around those ages of 11 and 13 I always lived in fear about that road trip as my dad would overtake on the wrong side of the road over and over. Those poor girls had to face my worst fear. Their passing looks to have been instantaneous so I hope they did not suffer for a minute or two.

Looks like in this crash no overtaking involved, their dad just lost control on a bend and veered onto the wrong side of the road.

I still drive this road back and forth all the time. Please only do it when you are fresh and alert!

AnimosiTy 12:09 pm 10 Mar 12

great post, couldn’t have said it better myself! thoughts and best wishes for the future of both families involved!! oxox!

BerraBoy68 11:02 am 10 Mar 12

Truly terrible. Condolence to those involved and their families. I hope the Firebrigade, Ambo’s and Police who attended the scene are counseled and looked after.

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