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Carney plead guilty to drunken burnouts in Goulburn

By johnboy - 14 February 2007 21

ABC Sport has a story on the Raiders’ Todd Carney pleading guilty in Goulburn.

“Police documents tendered to the court show that on December 16, Carney and his friends were drinking and in the evening he drove his car at speeds estimated in excess of 100 km/h in a 50 km zone and did burnouts.

When taken back to the Goulburn police station, he blew a blood alcohol reading of 0.145.”

Sentencing on 7 March.

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Carney plead guilty to drunken burnouts in Goulburn
VYBerlinaV8 now_with 10:27 am 16 Feb 07

No worries vg. Next time get I cut off by some moron at 98km/h in a 100 zone, with no indicator I’ll be sure to look at my speedo. After all, if my speed is 100 or less I MUST be safe! Frankly, this sort of rhetoric doesn’t achieve a thing.

If you drive at 50 over the speed limit, then yeah, you’re in a very high risk situation. No one is disputing that. And I don’t envy you having to visit fatal crashed. But perhaps if we removed some of the emotion, and got back to the facts, we would all be a bit better off.

vg 7:03 pm 15 Feb 07

I’d love to see you forward your argument regarding speed at the next fatal I go to. Try talking to an actual expert in actual accident investigation (like I do every day) instead of a net expert with an agenda.

Better still explain it to the parents of the kids that got killed on Hindmarsh Drive a few years ago when they lost it at Mach 10.

el 6:07 pm 15 Feb 07

Generally agree with you VY – inattentive drivers trundling along at the speed limit can be just as dangerous.

VYBerlinaV8 now_with 1:26 pm 15 Feb 07

oops – change ‘work’ to ‘amongst’. Don’t know what happened there!

VYBerlinaV8 now_with 1:25 pm 15 Feb 07

I believe we shouldn’t be so harsh on speeding for the simple reason that it conveys to the masses that speed control is the only risk mitigation strategy out there. If we were to spread the compliance work other risk mitigations (such as driver capability, impairment such as drink/drug driving, use of signals, lane discipline, etc), the overall effect would likely be to make the roads a safer place. I believe that most risk mitigations work on the 80/20 rule: for 20% effort or committment you get 80% of the benefit. To translate – if people spread their concentration more evenly across the spectrum of what they were supposed to do behind the wheel, and didn’t focus on staring at the speedo, the roads would be a safer place.

Understand that I don’t condone deliberate speeding or breaking of the rules. It’s simply that I support a balanced approach that make the roads as safe an convenient as possible.

Mr_Shab 1:09 pm 15 Feb 07

No doubt we shouldn’t rely on speed as the sole indicator of road safety, VY, but you still haven’t provided a reason why we shouldn’t continue to be harsh on speeding.

VYBerlinaV8 now_with 12:58 pm 15 Feb 07

Noone’s disputing that its a very dumb thing to do – to carry the risk management view forward, he has removed two very effective risk treatments: speed control and driving effectiveness.

johnboy 12:27 pm 15 Feb 07

100 in a 50 zone AND drunk?

VYBerlinaV8 now_with 12:24 pm 15 Feb 07

Fair enough, but to equate speeding with russian roulette is a bit silly. In reality, millions of people speed every day. The risks involved in driving a car are vastly different and more complex – including the risk mitigation measures that are employed.

Ultimately speed limits are a risk mitigation method set at a defined level. There are a range of other mitigations available. A better solution is to consider a range of mitigations, rather than simply relying on one.

In all honesty, the drink driving worries me more than the speeding.

simto 11:55 am 15 Feb 07

No, but he was far more likely to have an accident than he would have been had he not been speeding.

Kind of like not everybody playing Russian Roulette shoots themselves in the brain every time. But it’s much more likely than, say, not picking up a loaded gun and pointing it at your scone.

VYBerlinaV8 now_with 11:22 am 15 Feb 07

While I do not condone or agree with this type of behaviour, isn’t it interesting that even though he was speeding he didn’t have an accident? Who woulda thought?

Thumper 7:57 am 15 Feb 07

I agree with El.

Get a brain son. This is how people get killed on the roads.

vg 8:58 pm 14 Feb 07

Bogan is the most polite thing I could say

el 8:41 pm 14 Feb 07

‘D I C K H E A D’ would probably be more appropriate VG, given his BAC reading and high speeds in (I’m guessing by 50km/h) residential areas.

vg 8:31 pm 14 Feb 07

Gimme a B
Gimme an O
Gimme a G
Gimme an A
Gimme an N

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