Centenary Trail rejigged

thy_dungeonman said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

thy_dungeonman said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

thy_dungeonman – precisely what I was expecting to hear from cyclists, they get something, but still not happy unless it goes from their front door to their work in a straight line, exclusively for them, lined with pretty lights and lane markers, just like in Europe. This isn’t a transport road, it’s a tourist gimmick.

That’s pretty much what motorists get, why shouldn’t cyclists. Also you were the one who mentioned it might get cyclists off the road, I just pointed out that it wouldn’t if it’s just a tourist route. Take out most of the roads in the center and pretend that the blue line is a new ring-road around Canberra, how would motorists feel?

If the blue line was an open road without traffic lights, intersections and pedestrian crossings..I’d love it. Mt Panorama eat your heart out. I’d lap it regularly for the pure delight of non-stop driving pleasure.

Then imagine half of it is gravel and one way streets, it has tonne of pedestrian crossings and intersections with slow-moving traffic, fallen trees all over it and whenever there are roadworks cones are put up across the entire width and you have to detour off-road.

Ha ha! Sounds like a typical commute from the burbs into Civic on any given day.

wildturkeycanoe said :

thy_dungeonman said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

thy_dungeonman – precisely what I was expecting to hear from cyclists, they get something, but still not happy unless it goes from their front door to their work in a straight line, exclusively for them, lined with pretty lights and lane markers, just like in Europe. This isn’t a transport road, it’s a tourist gimmick.

That’s pretty much what motorists get, why shouldn’t cyclists. Also you were the one who mentioned it might get cyclists off the road, I just pointed out that it wouldn’t if it’s just a tourist route. Take out most of the roads in the center and pretend that the blue line is a new ring-road around Canberra, how would motorists feel?

If the blue line was an open road without traffic lights, intersections and pedestrian crossings..I’d love it. Mt Panorama eat your heart out. I’d lap it regularly for the pure delight of non-stop driving pleasure.

Then imagine half of it is gravel and one way streets, it has tonne of pedestrian crossings and intersections with slow-moving traffic, fallen trees all over it and whenever there are roadworks cones are put up across the entire width and you have to detour off-road.

thy_dungeonman said :

wildturkeycanoe said :

thy_dungeonman – precisely what I was expecting to hear from cyclists, they get something, but still not happy unless it goes from their front door to their work in a straight line, exclusively for them, lined with pretty lights and lane markers, just like in Europe. This isn’t a transport road, it’s a tourist gimmick.

That’s pretty much what motorists get, why shouldn’t cyclists. Also you were the one who mentioned it might get cyclists off the road, I just pointed out that it wouldn’t if it’s just a tourist route. Take out most of the roads in the center and pretend that the blue line is a new ring-road around Canberra, how would motorists feel?

If the blue line was an open road without traffic lights, intersections and pedestrian crossings..I’d love it. Mt Panorama eat your heart out. I’d lap it regularly for the pure delight of non-stop driving pleasure.

FioBla said :

Meh, the cost is only 12 days of ACTION subsidy.

I hope all Government spending will be measured in these units in the future. It is a very hand reference to keep things in perspective.

wildturkeycanoe said :

thy_dungeonman – precisely what I was expecting to hear from cyclists, they get something, but still not happy unless it goes from their front door to their work in a straight line, exclusively for them, lined with pretty lights and lane markers, just like in Europe. This isn’t a transport road, it’s a tourist gimmick.

That’s pretty much what motorists get, why shouldn’t cyclists. Also you were the one who mentioned it might get cyclists off the road, I just pointed out that it wouldn’t if it’s just a tourist route. Take out most of the roads in the center and pretend that the blue line is a new ring-road around Canberra, how would motorists feel?

Aeek said :

Can’t figure if we will have a reliable way to get across the river again, without going all the way out to Stromlo.I miss my offroad commute to work.

Not quite sure what your commute is, but the Centenary Trail uses the old low level crossing at https://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Canberra,+Australian+Capital+Territory&aq=0&oq=canberra&sll=-27.527758,135.703125&sspn=63.544525,114.169922&vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Canberra+Australian+Capital+Territory&ll=-35.318714,149.047112&spn=0.002628,0.003484&t=h&z=19 . This has been closed to cyclists for some time due to the site works for the Stromlo suburbs.

The other crossing where the pipeline goes across the river near the RSPCA at https://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Canberra,+Australian+Capital+Territory&aq=0&oq=canberra&sll=-27.527758,135.703125&sspn=63.544525,114.169922&vpsrc=6&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Canberra+Australian+Capital+Territory&ll=-35.31804,149.052946&spn=0.005255,0.006968&t=h&z=18 was opened as a “once off” for Capital Punishment this year but is typically closed.

Can’t figure if we will have a reliable way to get across the river again, without going all the way out to Stromlo.I miss my offroad commute to work.

Meh, the cost is only 12 days of ACTION subsidy.

Ooooh, got some bites already!! Yes I do like some things, cars and driving being one of them. When cars become extinct, I sincerely hope I have too!
I was merely having a go at the dollar figure and will keep watch on this as it unrolls. Let’s see if the 3.3 escalates over the years until it’s complete, just like GDE, Arboretum and pretty much everything that the ACT Gov spends on.
thy_dungeonman – precisely what I was expecting to hear from cyclists, they get something, but still not happy unless it goes from their front door to their work in a straight line, exclusively for them, lined with pretty lights and lane markers, just like in Europe. This isn’t a transport road, it’s a tourist gimmick.

wildturkeycanoe said :

$165 per metre if for for new trails only. I bet the $3.3M doesn’t include the “detailed heritage and ecological surveys”, or the extra works required after these surveys are complete. Those extra costs will no doubt come out of my rates rise. I guess at least it will take more cyclists of our roads, that should make ’em happy.

Because what we really need to get cyclists off the roads is more winding recreational rather than direct commuter cycling routes.