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Clearfelling entire streets of mature trees on the agenda

By SheepGroper - 4 August 2008 16

The last Stateline programme had a segment on replacing street trees.

The beautiful older streets with a green canopy overhead will be chopped down when the healthy trees are deemed to have reached their safe life limit,

The transcript’s here.

The beautiful older streets with a green canopy overhead will be a lot more open and hotter in Summer when healthy trees are deemed to have reached their safe life limit and get woodchipped, replaced with saplings. I’ll be out and about in Spring and Summer this year with my camera to admire the streets in the older areas while the trees are still there, I suspect the authorities won’t give much notice of the woodchippers coming in for fear of protests.

It’ll be interesting to see what effect this will have on house values.

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Clearfelling entire streets of mature trees on the agenda
SheepGroper 8:38 pm 04 Aug 08

Looking good now?

Excellent, thank you Mr Overlord Sir.

I’m just annoyed that the planning of something this big will end up being badly planned and haphazardly executed, like cutting off the lower limbs of the trees in the reserve behind me so the mowers could mow up to the trunks, before poisoning the grass next month and putting down woodchips.

sepi 8:31 pm 04 Aug 08

Oaks are drought tolerant and very shady. And I think they are pretty long lived.

miz 7:45 pm 04 Aug 08

Deciduous species shade your house so you are cooler by about 10 degrees C, so you don’t need an air con. Gardens in general (including lawns!) are a carbon and heat sink. The more trees die, the hotter you can expect it to be.

I reckon this is down to years of neglect . . . round about the amount of years since the Department of the Capital Territories stopped looking after nature strips and scabby self-government came in. The whole place looks decrepit these days.

Native trees live shorter, look scrappy, drop limbs and debris all year round, and give hardly any shade. They also explode in bush fires. They are fine in the bush but not viable in urban areas. There are plenty of wonderful, hardy shade trees – eg pistachia, which grows really well here and is long lived.

Tempestas 4:06 pm 04 Aug 08

It is a bugger, but from memory – ie not referring to the transcript – the issue is that they need to plan to do it over 15 years – a third every 5 years, the problem with that is it costs a bit more, and it might mean that some streets are become too risky or that protest action etc might stop the process.

If the trees were originally planted at the same time this was always on the cards. In order to minimise the risk and preserve the majority of the canopy the first trees come down 10 years before the end of their expected lifespan so that the last to be replaced are not too dangerous by the time they come down. Once down the street will have trees at sapling, +5 and +10 years. You can buy fully sized street trees but they are about $30k a piece plus the costs of installation, maybe Forrest or something could buy their own.

Agree with previous comments about it sucking to be the person responsible for this.

s-s-a 1:54 pm 04 Aug 08

I agree it sucks. Removing a mature canopy from nature strips completely changes the look, feel and microclimate of suburban streets. A classic example is Burrendong St, Duffy (and other nearby streets) where nearly all the mature street trees were destroyed and/or removed as a result of the bushfires. Greater extremes of heat in summer from the sun and frost in winter. Neither are desirable.

peterh 1:36 pm 04 Aug 08

yes, but we seem to be replacing the old European trees and replacing them with natives that don’t give off a lot of oxygen. we may also curb global warming – theory after a few jars at the local was that if we plant euro trees, they will make our climate wet and foggy. (alcohol induced theory, but a good idea at the time)

johnboy 1:28 pm 04 Aug 08

A lot of trees live for hundreds of years elsewhere….

peterh 12:59 pm 04 Aug 08

get timber wood trees, put them in suburbia. oak, elm, teak, cedar, sandalwood. remove natives that just crash to the ground. in 50 yrs, cut them down and repeat process.

sustainable forests can start with the nature strip….

Spectra 11:53 am 04 Aug 08

The government’s on a bit of a hiding to nothing here, though. If even one or two people are killed or injured by a large chunk of tree falling on them, and it comes out that the government’s known for a while that the trees in question were on the decline and unsafe, what then?
On issues like this, I think it would probably suck to be the king.

smokey4 11:52 am 04 Aug 08

I am wondering how much of this is just a beaurocratic plan and if they cannot see the forest for the trees. Die back is occuring through the drought. A large plantation of gum trees in Anzac av is effected 1km North of the war memeorial. A large number of gum trees are going the same way at Red Hill on Hindmarsh drive. Street tress are the least of our problems and probably not worth replacing until the current drought is over.
I notice a large number of exotic trees being removed from the shore of Lake Burley Griffin opposite ADFA. They really need replacing with native wetland species to provide a habitate for Platypuses etc.

johnboy 11:26 am 04 Aug 08

It’s all working.It’s because a great many posters don’t make the final step that we go through and poke at the drafts.

Back on topic now please.

Jonathon Reynolds 11:20 am 04 Aug 08

JB:
It appears the “submit for review” check box isn’t working properly. I’ve had the same happen to me.

johnboy 11:17 am 04 Aug 08

On topic… I’m amazed they’d even consider clear felling when a managed replacement program could retain the look of these streets.

Expect a massive fight through the courts to make Save The Ridge look tame.

johnboy 10:56 am 04 Aug 08

Sorry.

Looking good now?

SheepGroper 10:52 am 04 Aug 08

Hey I hadn’t finished editing that!

I meant to add:

The beautiful older streets with a green canopy overhead will be a lot more open and hotter in Summer when healthy trees are deemed to have reached their safe life limit and get woodchipped, replaced with saplings. I’ll be out and about in Spring and Summer this year with my camera to admire the streets in the older areas while the trees are still there, I suspect the authorities won’t give much notice of the woodchippers coming in for fear of protests.

It’ll be interesting to see what effect this will have on house values.

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