6 May 2013

Closing the gates at Kambah Pool

6 May 2013 | johnboy

Mayor Rattenbury has announced that Kambah Pool is going to be harder to get to at night if you’re into that sort of thing:

In an attempt to reduce ongoing vandalism and antisocial behaviour at Kambah Pool, gates to the
recreation area will be closed overnight from 1 July 2013, Minister for Territory and Municipal Services, Shane Rattenbury, announced today.

“From Monday 1 July 2013, the access gates on Kambah Pool Road to the recreation area will be closed to vehicles on a nightly basis,” Mr Rattenbury said. “During non-daylight savings time the gates will be closed from 6 pm to 8 am and from 9 pm to 8 am during daylight savings time.

“While there has been ongoing issues at this site, over the last few years vandalism of recreational assets and anti-social behaviour including the dumping of rubbish, lighting fires and racing cars has been increasing.

“A recent example of destructive behaviour in the area involved the use of a chainsaw to cut down trees and damage walking trail bridges, the cost of which to repair was around $8,000.

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Roundhead8912:36 pm 09 May 13

legal said :

Kambah Pool is a gay beat and this needs to end. At least 50% of the time I visit I have to tell some disgusting fag to stop wanking in front of me, or tell some newbie freak to f*** off before I call the police.

It is for naturists, which is a serene, peaceful activity, often just for the tan. Many visitors do not respect the ANF code of conduct eg strange men pulling their dicks or follow you into quite remote private spots, hang around your suntanning spot looking into the distance in the same direction as your body, or just jerk each other off. Personal space is not respected, they stare or approach people without consent etc.It is a public place with the same laws.

Its wrong to close the gates, a police patrol and a walk through the area by enlightened officers will get rid of the undesirables quickly. Its location is not the cause, its lack of policing, its allowing the gay beat to thrive and allowing the undesirables free reign to f*** it up for the rest of us.

The gay beat has to end, you’re gay for f***s sake if you can’t meet someone clothed being naked in lantana, dirt, rocks and muddy water isn’t going to improve your chances. Kambah Pool is not there for your benefit as a gay beat.

And @Gary_W you say “Gay weirdoes need to be discouraged from going to KP so that Nudist weirdoes can (let it all) hang-out without fear of having their sexuality brought into question.” You Gary are a prejudiced homophobe. What makes you think straight people automatically become gay if naked? Why are Gays, or Nudists, weirdos? You sound pretty damn weird having no worldly knowledge or acceptance of your body and linking that with perversion is something you should review.

As for property damage it is something that happens wherever their a lack of safe places for people to have fun. Plus, there is ZERO investment in this public place’s facilities, apart from a stinking vomit inducing toilet.

If police patrolled like they are supposed and used to, then it would attract the nudists more and turn away the anti-social behaviors. In fact Kambah Pool needs investment to improve the facilities and safety of visitors. I’ve been to many nude beaches and Kambah is the pitts, the shittest and its only that way because its never patrolled so it ends up a gay beat and vandals playground – inaction by the government is not the excuse for even greater inaction.

And there are so many fun headlines if police and govt shinybutts ever have the IQ to do their job of governance and not beaurocracy:

AFP doing a show of force in nudist area
Undercover officers in nudist area
Police force in nude crackdown
Nude areas to have police surveillance

Does this qualify as rant of the week? You say you’re not a homophobe but then you refer to “disgusting fags”. Then you repeat three times that the gay beat at Kambah Pool “must end”. Why? It was the gays who first started taking their clothes off and popularised the area leading to nude bathing being legalised in the 1970s. And as for the ANF “code of behaviour”, the minute the ANF buys Kambah Pool, fences it off and charges membership fees then they can enforce their “code of behaviour”, whatever that is.

If you have nothing constructive to add to the debate don’t post anything at all. We can do without this type of confused, hypocritical and narrow-minded nonsense.

Diggety12:24 pm 09 May 13

Chainsawin’ in the nude… Do people not have backyards anymore?

HiddenDragon11:45 am 09 May 13

Surely we’re missing the point – the real question is, how much does/will the Government charge for the taking of photographs at naturist weddings, same-sex weddings, and same-sex naturist weddings at this fabled locale? If it all gets too complicated at Kambah, perhaps the Arboretum could help out with a Percy Grainger Gymnosophist Grove (at least we know what the pics will cost).

Tetranitrate11:32 am 09 May 13

legal said :

Kambah Pool is a gay beat and this needs to end. At least 50% of the time I visit I have to tell some disgusting fag to stop wanking in front of me, or tell some newbie freak to f*** off before I call the police.

It is for naturists, which is a serene, peaceful activity, often just for the tan. Many visitors do not respect the ANF code of conduct eg strange men pulling their dicks or follow you into quite remote private spots, hang around your suntanning spot looking into the distance in the same direction as your body, or just jerk each other off. Personal space is not respected, they stare or approach people without consent etc.It is a public place with the same laws.

Its wrong to close the gates, a police patrol and a walk through the area by enlightened officers will get rid of the undesirables quickly. Its location is not the cause, its lack of policing, its allowing the gay beat to thrive and allowing the undesirables free reign to f*** it up for the rest of us.

The gay beat has to end, you’re gay for f***s sake if you can’t meet someone clothed being naked in lantana, dirt, rocks and muddy water isn’t going to improve your chances. Kambah Pool is not there for your benefit as a gay beat.

And @Gary_W you say “Gay weirdoes need to be discouraged from going to KP so that Nudist weirdoes can (let it all) hang-out without fear of having their sexuality brought into question.” You Gary are a prejudiced homophobe. What makes you think straight people automatically become gay if naked? Why are Gays, or Nudists, weirdos? You sound pretty damn weird having no worldly knowledge or acceptance of your body and linking that with perversion is something you should review.

As for property damage it is something that happens wherever their a lack of safe places for people to have fun. Plus, there is ZERO investment in this public place’s facilities, apart from a stinking vomit inducing toilet.

If police patrolled like they are supposed and used to, then it would attract the nudists more and turn away the anti-social behaviors. In fact Kambah Pool needs investment to improve the facilities and safety of visitors. I’ve been to many nude beaches and Kambah is the pitts, the shittest and its only that way because its never patrolled so it ends up a gay beat and vandals playground – inaction by the government is not the excuse for even greater inaction.

And there are so many fun headlines if police and govt shinybutts ever have the IQ to do their job of governance and not beaurocracy:

AFP doing a show of force in nudist area
Undercover officers in nudist area
Police force in nude crackdown
Nude areas to have police surveillance

Agreed completely with the lot, though the idea of undercover police in a nudist area is somewhat amusing. Where will they carry their sidearm?

Gary_W11:07 am 09 May 13

Excuse me legal. I did b
Not call gays weidos. I would suggest you read the post again. And will expect the apology.

Gary Whetton

bundah9:45 am 09 May 13

Yep i’ve heard that there’s all manner of debauchery that occurs at Kambah Pool.I was told by an acquaintance that he observed a woman enticing men to indulge in a free for all and apparently two of them helped themselves.I’ll be steering well clear of those sands of iniquity!

legal5:12 am 09 May 13

Kambah Pool is a gay beat and this needs to end. At least 50% of the time I visit I have to tell some disgusting fag to stop wanking in front of me, or tell some newbie freak to f*** off before I call the police.

It is for naturists, which is a serene, peaceful activity, often just for the tan. Many visitors do not respect the ANF code of conduct eg strange men pulling their dicks or follow you into quite remote private spots, hang around your suntanning spot looking into the distance in the same direction as your body, or just jerk each other off. Personal space is not respected, they stare or approach people without consent etc.It is a public place with the same laws.

Its wrong to close the gates, a police patrol and a walk through the area by enlightened officers will get rid of the undesirables quickly. Its location is not the cause, its lack of policing, its allowing the gay beat to thrive and allowing the undesirables free reign to f*** it up for the rest of us.

The gay beat has to end, you’re gay for f***s sake if you can’t meet someone clothed being naked in lantana, dirt, rocks and muddy water isn’t going to improve your chances. Kambah Pool is not there for your benefit as a gay beat.

And @Gary_W you say “Gay weirdoes need to be discouraged from going to KP so that Nudist weirdoes can (let it all) hang-out without fear of having their sexuality brought into question.” You Gary are a prejudiced homophobe. What makes you think straight people automatically become gay if naked? Why are Gays, or Nudists, weirdos? You sound pretty damn weird having no worldly knowledge or acceptance of your body and linking that with perversion is something you should review.

As for property damage it is something that happens wherever their a lack of safe places for people to have fun. Plus, there is ZERO investment in this public place’s facilities, apart from a stinking vomit inducing toilet.

If police patrolled like they are supposed and used to, then it would attract the nudists more and turn away the anti-social behaviors. In fact Kambah Pool needs investment to improve the facilities and safety of visitors. I’ve been to many nude beaches and Kambah is the pitts, the shittest and its only that way because its never patrolled so it ends up a gay beat and vandals playground – inaction by the government is not the excuse for even greater inaction.

And there are so many fun headlines if police and govt shinybutts ever have the IQ to do their job of governance and not beaurocracy:

AFP doing a show of force in nudist area
Undercover officers in nudist area
Police force in nude crackdown
Nude areas to have police surveillance

DrKoresh12:47 am 09 May 13

P.S- Having never seen your bare ass around RA before, I also think it’s weird you know how old I am, but again, whatevs.

DrKoresh12:44 am 09 May 13

Gary_W said :

For the record I am not gay. As to the term Gay weirdo I have no idea myself but its clear from the users vast experience of all of 21 years he knows what he is talking about. It is my understanding that this is the term he would brandish all person(s) not of his ilk.

The comments just provide ignorance of the subject matter.

In response to name: if isn’t that important then why did you go look it up?

Hide behind your user name if that’s your choosing I chose not to.

Gary Whetton

I wasn’t describing gay people as weird, I think pretty much anyone who lurks at a pool after hours for anonymous sex with strangers is a weirdo. Nor do I have any problem with nudists, (I don’t agree with turning it into the ideology of “naturism”, but whatevs, diff’rent strokes fer diff’rent folks), but I reckon hanging around in the nuddy with a bunch of other nekkid folks is a bit weird too,

I mainly used the terms so I could succinctly sum up your post, which apparently I did pretty well. I don’t really give a stuff if people want go cottaging at KP or just go there starkers but I reserve the right to find it a bit weird. In the words of Bob Belcher “I don’t want to go to a nude beach and see a bunch of wrinkly, sweaty, overweight people and realise that’s exactly what I look like”

Gary_W11:18 pm 08 May 13

For the record I am not gay. As to the term Gay weirdo I have no idea myself but its clear from the users vast experience of all of 21 years he knows what he is talking about. It is my understanding that this is the term he would brandish all person(s) not of his ilk.

The comments just provide ignorance of the subject matter.

In response to name: if isn’t that important then why did you go look it up?

Hide behind your user name if that’s your choosing I chose not to.

Gary Whetton

gungsuperstar9:02 pm 08 May 13

DrKoresh said :

Gary_W said :

I am so sick of the negativity expressed regarding Kambah pool. Although I do support the locking of the gates but the issue is deeper. This may prevent some access but won’t stop those hell bend on tarnishing the area. TAMS and the police need to be active in patrolling this area for the undesirables as is the case with many clothing optional locations. We also, as a community also need to be active. The cost of repair comes from you the rate payer.

I am am an active naturist although this is not my chosen description as I am in reality a nudist and have been publicly for the last 7 years, although previously kept it to myself. I am a Canberra resident, born here some 50 years ago and although flew the region some time ago have returned.

Living here I have heard it all about Kambah pool and the creeps that persist in the area. Although I don’t extend my travels below the first beach area I have heard it all. To date I have not had any encounters but thats not to say that it won’t happen; but i am not interested period! I am there for my enjoyment and for like minded naturists; nothing more , nothing less. A place to unwind and I am pleased that I can go there rather that having to travel 3 hours down the road.

Despite what many of you believe (based on comments) there is a surprising number of active people that want Kambah Pool to continue. For those that prefer to make generalization of our lifestyles without partaking then you are only making comments based on what you have heard not from experience.

To those that don’t understand our (my) lifestyle then I say try it once if you don’t like it, simply get dressed and walk away; no harm done.

I for one will remain at Kambah pool as often as I can and am happy to meet like minded Individuals and will continue with my quest to get this area ‘cleaned’ up so we all have a place of enjoyment. We are all part of the same community in the end. Like it or not. I can hear the howls of protest if at the end of the day the powers that be close the area ( including) the textile region and the reserves for development.

Sure you say there are other areas to go. But I ask ‘Do you not prefer a degree of solitude when you take a break from the day to day? I and other naturist are no different.

Society has brought you up to believe that being nude is not acceptable – i challenge that belief and there are many that would also.

I am no ashamed of my naturist lifestyle and only to happy to put my name to it. How many of you can do the same?

Gary Whetton

I couldn’t bring myself the read the whole post but what the subtext I gathered from skimming through it is; Gay weirdoes need to be discouraged from going to KP so that Nudist weirdoes can (let it all) hang-out without fear of having their sexuality brought into question.

Can anyone tell me if I’m completely misreading this?

What’s a gay weirdo?

Obviously I know about Kambah pool… and I’ve even considered going down and experimenting with public nudism.

But your response has me a little nervous. Is a “gay weirdo” really just a perve? Is it someone whose going to invade my personal space?

Or is it just a derogatory term used to denigrate any gay people that go there under the assumption that they’re just going to check people out?

I’m confused… but damn I want to know more now before I can summons the courage to give it a try.

Pork Hunt6:34 pm 08 May 13

DrKoresh said :

Gary_W said :

I am so sick of the negativity expressed regarding Kambah pool. Although I do support the locking of the gates but the issue is deeper. This may prevent some access but won’t stop those hell bend on tarnishing the area. TAMS and the police need to be active in patrolling this area for the undesirables as is the case with many clothing optional locations. We also, as a community also need to be active. The cost of repair comes from you the rate payer.

I am am an active naturist although this is not my chosen description as I am in reality a nudist and have been publicly for the last 7 years, although previously kept it to myself. I am a Canberra resident, born here some 50 years ago and although flew the region some time ago have returned.

Living here I have heard it all about Kambah pool and the creeps that persist in the area. Although I don’t extend my travels below the first beach area I have heard it all. To date I have not had any encounters but thats not to say that it won’t happen; but i am not interested period! I am there for my enjoyment and for like minded naturists; nothing more , nothing less. A place to unwind and I am pleased that I can go there rather that having to travel 3 hours down the road.

Despite what many of you believe (based on comments) there is a surprising number of active people that want Kambah Pool to continue. For those that prefer to make generalization of our lifestyles without partaking then you are only making comments based on what you have heard not from experience.

To those that don’t understand our (my) lifestyle then I say try it once if you don’t like it, simply get dressed and walk away; no harm done.

I for one will remain at Kambah pool as often as I can and am happy to meet like minded Individuals and will continue with my quest to get this area ‘cleaned’ up so we all have a place of enjoyment. We are all part of the same community in the end. Like it or not. I can hear the howls of protest if at the end of the day the powers that be close the area ( including) the textile region and the reserves for development.

Sure you say there are other areas to go. But I ask ‘Do you not prefer a degree of solitude when you take a break from the day to day? I and other naturist are no different.

Society has brought you up to believe that being nude is not acceptable – i challenge that belief and there are many that would also.

I am no ashamed of my naturist lifestyle and only to happy to put my name to it. How many of you can do the same?

Gary Whetton

I couldn’t bring myself the read the whole post but what the subtext I gathered from skimming through it is; Gay weirdoes need to be discouraged from going to KP so that Nudist weirdoes can (let it all) hang-out without fear of having their sexuality brought into question.

Can anyone tell me if I’m completely misreading this?

“I am in reality a nudist and have been publicly for the last 7 years”

Poor sentence construction right there I reckon…

DrKoresh5:28 pm 08 May 13

Gary_W said :

I am so sick of the negativity expressed regarding Kambah pool. Although I do support the locking of the gates but the issue is deeper. This may prevent some access but won’t stop those hell bend on tarnishing the area. TAMS and the police need to be active in patrolling this area for the undesirables as is the case with many clothing optional locations. We also, as a community also need to be active. The cost of repair comes from you the rate payer.

I am am an active naturist although this is not my chosen description as I am in reality a nudist and have been publicly for the last 7 years, although previously kept it to myself. I am a Canberra resident, born here some 50 years ago and although flew the region some time ago have returned.

Living here I have heard it all about Kambah pool and the creeps that persist in the area. Although I don’t extend my travels below the first beach area I have heard it all. To date I have not had any encounters but thats not to say that it won’t happen; but i am not interested period! I am there for my enjoyment and for like minded naturists; nothing more , nothing less. A place to unwind and I am pleased that I can go there rather that having to travel 3 hours down the road.

Despite what many of you believe (based on comments) there is a surprising number of active people that want Kambah Pool to continue. For those that prefer to make generalization of our lifestyles without partaking then you are only making comments based on what you have heard not from experience.

To those that don’t understand our (my) lifestyle then I say try it once if you don’t like it, simply get dressed and walk away; no harm done.

I for one will remain at Kambah pool as often as I can and am happy to meet like minded Individuals and will continue with my quest to get this area ‘cleaned’ up so we all have a place of enjoyment. We are all part of the same community in the end. Like it or not. I can hear the howls of protest if at the end of the day the powers that be close the area ( including) the textile region and the reserves for development.

Sure you say there are other areas to go. But I ask ‘Do you not prefer a degree of solitude when you take a break from the day to day? I and other naturist are no different.

Society has brought you up to believe that being nude is not acceptable – i challenge that belief and there are many that would also.

I am no ashamed of my naturist lifestyle and only to happy to put my name to it. How many of you can do the same?

Gary Whetton

I couldn’t bring myself the read the whole post but what the subtext I gathered from skimming through it is; Gay weirdoes need to be discouraged from going to KP so that Nudist weirdoes can (let it all) hang-out without fear of having their sexuality brought into question.

Can anyone tell me if I’m completely misreading this?

Gary_W5:11 pm 08 May 13

I am so sick of the negativity expressed regarding Kambah pool. Although I do support the locking of the gates but the issue is deeper. This may prevent some access but won’t stop those hell bend on tarnishing the area. TAMS and the police need to be active in patrolling this area for the undesirables as is the case with many clothing optional locations. We also, as a community also need to be active. The cost of repair comes from you the rate payer.

I am am an active naturist although this is not my chosen description as I am in reality a nudist and have been publicly for the last 7 years, although previously kept it to myself. I am a Canberra resident, born here some 50 years ago and although flew the region some time ago have returned.

Living here I have heard it all about Kambah pool and the creeps that persist in the area. Although I don’t extend my travels below the first beach area I have heard it all. To date I have not had any encounters but thats not to say that it won’t happen; but i am not interested period! I am there for my enjoyment and for like minded naturists; nothing more , nothing less. A place to unwind and I am pleased that I can go there rather that having to travel 3 hours down the road.

Despite what many of you believe (based on comments) there is a surprising number of active people that want Kambah Pool to continue. For those that prefer to make generalization of our lifestyles without partaking then you are only making comments based on what you have heard not from experience.

To those that don’t understand our (my) lifestyle then I say try it once if you don’t like it, simply get dressed and walk away; no harm done.

I for one will remain at Kambah pool as often as I can and am happy to meet like minded Individuals and will continue with my quest to get this area ‘cleaned’ up so we all have a place of enjoyment. We are all part of the same community in the end. Like it or not. I can hear the howls of protest if at the end of the day the powers that be close the area ( including) the textile region and the reserves for development.

Sure you say there are other areas to go. But I ask ‘Do you not prefer a degree of solitude when you take a break from the day to day? I and other naturist are no different.

Society has brought you up to believe that being nude is not acceptable – i challenge that belief and there are many that would also.

I am no ashamed of my naturist lifestyle and only to happy to put my name to it. How many of you can do the same?

Gary Whetton

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