Condamine St Crackdown on Scofflaw Cyclists

johnboy 8 February 2011 51

cyclists dismount

dtc has warned that police are out busting cyclists failing to dismount when using pedestrian crossings:

#1 dtc
9:53 am, 08 Feb 11

And at the Condamine St crosswalk, near Turner primary, the police are stopping cyclists who don’t dismount when using the crosswalk (previously discussed here on RA – but I can’t find the link). With the statement that ‘many cars dont slow down so you need to get off your bike’ and warning of $70 fines.

Our previous look at the approach of riders to these intersections is still available.


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troll-sniffer troll-sniffer 10:15 pm 11 Feb 11

Snarky said :

It’s now been 3 days since this was posted – can any locals or regulars tell us if the crackdown has caused cyclists to mend their scofflaw devil-may-care road-crossing ways?

Oh yeah I ride most of the inner north on the other side of Northbourne Ave and it has me quakin’ in dem boots, boss… every 10 metres I stop, dismount, confirm I’m not on a pedestrian crossing and ride on, all the time shiverin’ with dat fear dat da big blue man gonna get me. Oh yeah, ever since the news broke all I sees is cyclists bein’ extra careful not to upset da Riot-ACT readers in case deys be mown down…

terubo terubo 8:33 pm 11 Feb 11

What’s the problem? As an occasional cyclist, I have no issue with dismounting at a ped. crossing. It’s the law, isn’t it?

Gerroff yer bikes, yer clowns.

KB1971 KB1971 2:12 pm 11 Feb 11

Snarky said :

It’s now been 3 days since this was posted – can any locals or regulars tell us if the crackdown has caused cyclists to mend their scofflaw devil-may-care road-crossing ways?

Nope but I do give way to vehicles & predestrians before crossing.

Snarky Snarky 1:16 pm 11 Feb 11

It’s now been 3 days since this was posted – can any locals or regulars tell us if the crackdown has caused cyclists to mend their scofflaw devil-may-care road-crossing ways?

KB1971 KB1971 8:36 am 11 Feb 11

OpenYourMind said :

As a car driver, I just don’t get what the big deal is. Occasionally I get to a pedestrian crossing and there is a pedestrian, a jogger or a bicycle. I stop and let them through. Is it really that difficult?

The difficulty is peoples spatial awareness. You would be amased at how many people dont have it outside of their car let alone inside their car…..

I doo agree, its no biggie, approach the crossing with the exptation that you will have to stop & its not a drama.

The Traineediplomat The Traineediplomat 8:33 am 11 Feb 11

triffid said :

…. and attempt to play Hector the Safety Cat by looking left and right) .

I used to have that cassette!!!!

OpenYourMind OpenYourMind 6:43 am 11 Feb 11

dj_andy_g, do you realise that most of us cyclists on any given ride on a cycle/recreational path safely cross a multitude of roads? For some unknown reason, there are a handful of crossings that are deemed to be pedestrian crossings, yet there are heaps of others that aren’t. As an example, the Bowen Dr crossing is incredibly dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists to cross due to cars speeding around the bend yet the one has no pedestrian crossing.
Hopefully the Pedal Power push to change this law is succesful. If not, why not just erase the white strips on the handful of crossings on cycling/recreational paths. The same rule can apply for them as for all the other non marked crossings. i.e. we give way to cars before crossing. If a car chooses to wave us through then we return with a friendly wave.
As a car driver, I just don’t get what the big deal is. Occasionally I get to a pedestrian crossing and there is a pedestrian, a jogger or a bicycle. I stop and let them through. Is it really that difficult?

cleo cleo 2:36 am 11 Feb 11

Red Dog # 25

The little girl in question did the right thing, I believe her mother had told her what to do, she is already an example of what is the right thing to do, she doesn’t need me to show her, I just smiled at her and she at me. It goes both ways!

Deckard Deckard 7:46 pm 10 Feb 11

dj_andy_g said :

i wonder how many people commenting are actually familiar with this crossing. cyclists hurtling towards the crossing, particularly coming from the turner side, are incredibly hard to see.

but for those who continue to ignore the dismount signs, go ahead – if you get hit, its your own stupid fault. i feel the police and dpp would see it the same way.

We’re not talking about people hurtling across the crossing. That’s just suicidal.

You ride up slowly, if there’s a car coming you wait for it to either drive through or to stop and let you through. Just like I do when I’m walking. I’ve seen enough drivers drive through crossings when there are pedestrians on them.

I wonder what the rule is for crossing a road on a bike when there is no crossing? Can I just cross the road 1 or 2 metres behind the crossing and get away scott free?

New Yeah New Yeah 6:27 pm 10 Feb 11

I wonder if any cyclists did a runner when stopped by the cops?

dj_andy_g dj_andy_g 5:25 pm 10 Feb 11

i wonder how many people commenting are actually familiar with this crossing. cyclists hurtling towards the crossing, particularly coming from the turner side, are incredibly hard to see.

but for those who continue to ignore the dismount signs, go ahead – if you get hit, its your own stupid fault. i feel the police and dpp would see it the same way.

KB1971 KB1971 3:04 pm 10 Feb 11

Lin said :

I call for a cyclists to strictly follow this rule for a set period of time just to make a point. Stop slowly, dismount very carefully, walk across slowly – which I’d have to do anyway if I have my daughter on the back of the bike and it being so top heavy makes it awkward to push. The whole process would make car drivers have to wait at least 5 times longer than when the cyclist just rides across.
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& stop at the stop lights, this morning on Beazley street 4 riders ran the stop light whil another rider and I waited until they turned green.

Lin Lin 2:49 pm 10 Feb 11

I call for a cyclists to strictly follow this rule for a set period of time just to make a point. Stop slowly, dismount very carefully, walk across slowly – which I’d have to do anyway if I have my daughter on the back of the bike and it being so top heavy makes it awkward to push. The whole process would make car drivers have to wait at least 5 times longer than when the cyclist just rides across.

And to whoever that was who waves cars through at pedestrian crossing: I actually hate that when I’m driving. I know I have to give way to anyone using the pedestrian crossing and I couldn’t care less if they walk, ride or summersault across. I expect anyone road user to take their right of way and it takes me longer to make sure that this guy waving at me actually wants to forfeit his right of way than it does to slow down/stop and let him cross. Especially as I usually try to anticipate other road users’ behaviour and slow down well in time so I don’t have to come to a complete stop. That only works if everyone does what they’re supposed to do.

Holden Caulfield Holden Caulfield 2:48 pm 10 Feb 11

Bane said :

A little common sense doesn’t hurt

Indeed and in this day and age of OH&S awareness, common sense would dictate having bicycles sharing the road with cars and trucks shouldn’t happen. But there you go. All road users have to make the best of a bad situation.

georgesgenitals georgesgenitals 1:35 pm 10 Feb 11

Jim Jones said :

georgesgenitals said :

Bane said :

We shouldn’t have to dismount from our bikes when we’re on a bike path, especially when simply riding slowly achieves the same result

Us motorists shouldn’t have to come to a complete stop at stop signs, especially when driving through slowly achieves the same result.

It doesn’t.

It does. The purpose is to ensure we look carefully and give way before we drive forward.

The point I was making is that laws are there for a reason. If we are going to insist on total compliance (as many here seem to do with road rules, and it is not an unreasonable position), then we should expect the same from all road users.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 1:24 pm 10 Feb 11

georgesgenitals said :

Bane said :

We shouldn’t have to dismount from our bikes when we’re on a bike path, especially when simply riding slowly achieves the same result

Us motorists shouldn’t have to come to a complete stop at stop signs, especially when driving through slowly achieves the same result.

It doesn’t.

georgesgenitals georgesgenitals 1:08 pm 10 Feb 11

Bane said :

We shouldn’t have to dismount from our bikes when we’re on a bike path, especially when simply riding slowly achieves the same result

Us motorists shouldn’t have to come to a complete stop at stop signs, especially when driving through slowly achieves the same result.

Bane Bane 10:55 am 10 Feb 11

OpenYourMind said :

This law is ridiculous and you don’t have to cycle for too long to realise why.  Here’s Pedal Power’s reasons why the current pedestrian crossing law needs to be changed:
http://www.pedalpower.org.au/advocacy/docs/safer-crossings%20brief.pdf
 
 

Excellent article, +1

We shouldn’t have to dismount from our bikes when we’re on a bike path, especially when simply riding slowly achieves the same result

As an aside, to the guy who said that all road rules apply to bikes as well, I hope you remember that when you’re stuck behind me as I ride up the steep hill on one-laned Dryandra street with double-line markings preventing you from overtaking me. A little common sense doesn’t hurt

cleo cleo 2:50 am 10 Feb 11

Triffin # 29

Right on!

Deckard Deckard 7:41 pm 09 Feb 11

I don’t understand why some people complain about cyclist riding across when it’s safe to do so. I put it down to the fact they’re jealous as they see cyclists getting their own 2m’s of road space all over the place and just want to get one up on them.

The rule I’d compare it to is jaywalking. Do all the law abiding citizens who are so jealous that a cyclist can ride across a pedestrian crossing stand there waiting for the green man while the road is empty?

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