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Dog barking threatened… ?

mickey 6 October 2011 82

Hello fellow rioters. This afternoon when the missus reached home after work, she found a note on the door was asking us to “shut our barking dog OR…”

I am happy to ensure that our dog does not bark when we are away, but I find the tone of the note quite intimidating and borderline threatening. I am not sure if the dog is under threat or is it me or my pregnant wife?

Like i mentioned, I am going to ensure that the dog does not bark in the future, by keeping it inside the garage while we are away. Though this will ensure there is no nuisance barking, this is not a foolproof thing and there might be times when we forget to lock the garage door.

If the person who has left the note calls the RSPCA what action can they take in this scenario?

I do not want to harbour any issues with any of my neighbours and will love to live in peace and without fear of threats, as much as they do.

I am assuming that they meant to call the RSPCA and the threat was not to kill the poor thing?

Alternatively, if my beloved dog is poisoned or goes missing, what course of action can I take, seeing that she has been threatened previously?

Any advice would be much appreciated.


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zorro29 zorro29 10:26 am 21 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

AAAh, dog owners, clearly the most selfish and ignorant part of todays communities.

I love how they let them run up to our kids without a leash, scare the daylights out of us all and then wander over with that stupid grin and an “oh sorry, he really wouldn’t hurt anyone” or leave the droppings everywhere or keep small dogs in body corporate apartments because surely as little barking couldn’t annoy anyone or get fireworks banned because “my dog doen’t like them” or leave them at home all day with no company or anything to do and act surprised that they bark.

Keeping a barking dog is an inherently hostile thing to do and not knowing that your dog barks all day is just ignorant and selfish.

I would recommend that anyone that has a barking dog next door remain totally anonymous, by all means start with a polite anonymous letter but keep your options open. The Government will not really help and if other neighbours are friends with the barker they wont back up your claims or diary records.

At that point you are on your own.

right on!!! i am harassed by dogs running up to me and jumping all over me on my walk…and sometimes it’s quite affronting…don’t dog owners know about leash laws? and yes the poop issue is a disgrace…really cheapens the neighbourhood…

re: previous comments…i agree threatening letters arent the way to go but the ACT government do nothing to help you and owners are seldom cooperative either…it’s hard to believe some of them are never home to hear their dogs constantly barking…and it’s that noise that drives people to insanity like leaving the notes…

ex-vectis ex-vectis 11:49 am 19 Oct 11

This is such a Canberra issue. When we go for walks there is a constant background of dogs barking. It is not just a single dog here, or a single dog there, it is everywhere. During our time in Canberra we have lived in many suburbs (Monash, Gungalin, Mawson, Issacs, Turner) and you simply cannot get away from it.

I have no doubt that the majority of dog owners are caring and responsible. But many are not and it is these folk who bring problems to the rest.

While I cannot condone anonymous threatening notes you have to ask why it was anonymous and so full of hate – neigbours here in Canberra dont chat to each other and the sound of a barking dog is one of the most irritating sounds there is, mostly because of its random and rasping nature. With those parameters it is little suprise that those complaining want to remain anonymous (and so not risk being seen as whinging) and so full of anger (as it would have built up inside them for a long time!).

The only solution I can see is that TAMS make it easier and simpler to complain (IE. You can phone them or send an email) and they, in turn, will point out to the owner that there dog is perhaps causing a nuisance to neighbours. At the moment any person wanting to go down the TAMS route is first faced with a message saying ‘Dogs Bark’ and then have to keep a two week diary and sign their soul’s away…

This issue should not be underestimated nor the level of anger it creates in usually well adjusted folk….

Watson Watson 9:38 pm 11 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

Yeh sorry Mickey, you are trying to do the right thing, touchy subject with me and I didn’t mean to single you guys out.

Sorry to you too Watson, I do think you would look after your dog resonsibly.

Is ok, I understand why it would be touchy. Barking dogs drive me bonkers too.

And to be totally honest, before this thread, I had never spent any thought on the fact that dog owners cannot know if their dogs bark when they’re out, unless a neighbour lets them know. If I ever have a barking dog next door again, I will be the first one to go and have a chat to them about it now. And hope that they do fall into the right category…

Mickey, so glad to hear that the solution was so simple!

hoody hoody 6:21 pm 11 Oct 11

Same thing happened to us, moved in to a new place and within a few weeks had the nasty threatening note (anonymous). Both the dogs never really barked much, but sure they did bark from time to time. Came home a week later and one was missing and the other hiding up the back in terror. So I assume the a$$h0le who wrote the note came into the yard and took the dog and disposed of it. Of course I can’t be sure, but this seems the obvious explanation. Funny thing is neighbours on every side all have dogs too. One of them lost their staffy a few months ago, also mysteriously. If I was a more suspicious person, I’d think there was some kind of dog hating pyschopath in the street. Not nice to lose a dog in these circumstances. Would gladly have got a nice visit and a civilised discussion about it.This was 2 years ago, no more or less barking in the neighbourhood now than then…go figure.

Innovation Innovation 6:16 pm 11 Oct 11

shadow boxer – I think that your three categories are probably pretty accurate – but it applies to all sorts of issues, not just dogs. Noisy heating/cooling units, pool pumps, power tools and uncontrolled house alarms spring to mind. People who honk their car horns to say hello and goodbye are another and, my pet hate, people who let their gardens grow over public footpaths and nature strips. My point is, if something is going to repeatedly bother you, it is easier to just assume that the responsible individuals are uninformed and politely let them know asap before you snap. Offering and commiting to working with them would help too.

However, there is another (albeit much smaller) group as well though – the victims. Some trawling on the net showed some potential examples, of vexatious neighbours, neighbours with psychological issues and neighbours who complain about something that is within their control (or that they can aggravate) because a real issue that annoys them is out of their control (eg lower social status, they are afraid of dogs, or a successful but annoying development).

shadow boxer shadow boxer 4:47 pm 11 Oct 11

mickey said :

shadow boxer said :

Well it divides them into three categories

“People who own barking dogs tend to fall into one of three categories.

the uninformed
the lazy and the reluctant
the malicious and recalcitrant”

I guess we could be generous and assume Mickey is part of the uniformed. Again though my point is if you keep three dogs you really should do some due diligence and not just wait for someone to get upset enough to complain.

Thanks shadow boxer, you are very considerate!
Just fyi, I only have 2 dogs.
Also, have spoken to a couple of my neighbours, though haven’t found the one who left the note yet, but since last week, ever since I started leaving them inside while I was out, they haven’t heard them at all, in fact were wondering if we had gone away.
So atleast a step in the right direction.

Yeh sorry Mickey, you are trying to do the right thing, touchy subject with me and I didn’t mean to single you guys out.

Sorry to you too Watson, I do think you would look after your dog resonsibly.

mickey mickey 4:39 pm 11 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

Well it divides them into three categories

“People who own barking dogs tend to fall into one of three categories.

the uninformed
the lazy and the reluctant
the malicious and recalcitrant”

I guess we could be generous and assume Mickey is part of the uniformed. Again though my point is if you keep three dogs you really should do some due diligence and not just wait for someone to get upset enough to complain.

Thanks shadow boxer, you are very considerate!
Just fyi, I only have 2 dogs.
Also, have spoken to a couple of my neighbours, though haven’t found the one who left the note yet, but since last week, ever since I started leaving them inside while I was out, they haven’t heard them at all, in fact were wondering if we had gone away.
So atleast a step in the right direction.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 2:07 pm 10 Oct 11

Well it divides them into three categories

“People who own barking dogs tend to fall into one of three categories.

the uninformed
the lazy and the reluctant
the malicious and recalcitrant”

I guess we could be generous and assume Mickey is part of the uniformed. Again though my point is if you keep three dogs you really should do some due diligence and not just wait for someone to get upset enough to complain.

Watson Watson 10:24 am 10 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

I’m not trolling, i’m educating (well maybe a little trolling)

Here this guy bputs it better than me http://www.barkingdogs.net/persuadeneighbors.shtml

Or refer to the Tuggers dog park thread for exhibit B

Huh? That article confirms that the first step when you have a problem with a neighbour’s barking dog should be to let them know? You have been arguing that the owners of the dogs should not have to be told.

The dog owners that have reacted to this thread have shown commitment to solve the problem and would be classified as responsible dog owners. So I really don’t get what your problem is.

I also don’t get what the dog park thread has to do with it? No one is denying that there are irresponsible dog owners in Canberra. I have met plenty when even one would be too many. But don’t take out your frustration on those that do try to do the right thing, please.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 7:33 pm 09 Oct 11

I’m not trolling, i’m educating (well maybe a little trolling)

Here this guy bputs it better than me http://www.barkingdogs.net/persuadeneighbors.shtml

Or refer to the Tuggers dog park thread for exhibit B

Watson Watson 1:54 pm 09 Oct 11

el said :

shadow boxer said :

This is how dog owners operate.

Yeah, yeah, we get it – obvious troll is obvious.

Very smart troll though, being able to make sweeping generalisations about approximately 40% of Australian households!

el el 11:09 am 09 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

This is how dog owners operate.

Yeah, yeah, we get it – obvious troll is obvious.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 7:29 am 09 Oct 11

mickey said :

shadow boxer said :

mickey said :

Disinformation said :

Right. After all this, I now wonder exactly why my side neighbor asked me about his dogs. I knew one existed, but there were others I didn’t know about.
I personally like having dogs around my house. Makes the crims think that little bit harder about rolling houses nearby them. The dog across the road has barked at me every time I’ve checked the mailbox and I’ve never thought twice about it other than saying “Woof” back to him.
I think some people just like to bitch and a dog gives them something to focus on.

Definitely. My dog barks when she hears or sees something, and I am sure she is better than any security system going around. There is a lot of construction going around my street, so she probably keeps herself entertained barking at them during the day. Unfortunately it has been troubling someone nearby. 🙁

I rest my case, as I said in my original post clearly the most selfish component of today’s community and the rest of us can suck it up or piss off.

I am not sure what case you are talking about? Are you that component of today’s community that condones threatening your neighbours, probably violence as well?
The post was about the threatening note, not once have I shirked away from the fact that MY dog has probably been barking. I have already put into place measures to ensure this will not be an issue in the future.

The jury is out.

No see you still don’t see what I am saying.

You think this alll started when your neighbour complained in a manner you didn’t like, I think it all started when you dumped 3 dogs out the back without a thought for what might happen.

This is how dog owners operate.

Innovation Innovation 9:06 pm 07 Oct 11

Mickey – as others have posted, and based on my own experience, if you can’t get your complainant to own up and provide some valuable info for you to use (by letterbox dropping an invite for complaints), if you can afford it I would suggest that you install a good CCTV + audio system. You will identify any problems caused by your dog and/or possibly any other future illegal activity on your property. Money potentially well spent! (I noticed a poster on another thread offered to help install a system for a six pack. I can’t remember which thread but I do remember from other threads he was a sparky.

mickey mickey 8:26 pm 07 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

mickey said :

Disinformation said :

Right. After all this, I now wonder exactly why my side neighbor asked me about his dogs. I knew one existed, but there were others I didn’t know about.
I personally like having dogs around my house. Makes the crims think that little bit harder about rolling houses nearby them. The dog across the road has barked at me every time I’ve checked the mailbox and I’ve never thought twice about it other than saying “Woof” back to him.
I think some people just like to bitch and a dog gives them something to focus on.

Definitely. My dog barks when she hears or sees something, and I am sure she is better than any security system going around. There is a lot of construction going around my street, so she probably keeps herself entertained barking at them during the day. Unfortunately it has been troubling someone nearby. 🙁

I rest my case, as I said in my original post clearly the most selfish component of today’s community and the rest of us can suck it up or piss off.

I am not sure what case you are talking about? Are you that component of today’s community that condones threatening your neighbours, probably violence as well?
The post was about the threatening note, not once have I shirked away from the fact that MY dog has probably been barking. I have already put into place measures to ensure this will not be an issue in the future.

The jury is out.

shadow boxer shadow boxer 7:23 pm 07 Oct 11

mickey said :

Disinformation said :

Right. After all this, I now wonder exactly why my side neighbor asked me about his dogs. I knew one existed, but there were others I didn’t know about.
I personally like having dogs around my house. Makes the crims think that little bit harder about rolling houses nearby them. The dog across the road has barked at me every time I’ve checked the mailbox and I’ve never thought twice about it other than saying “Woof” back to him.
I think some people just like to bitch and a dog gives them something to focus on.

Definitely. My dog barks when she hears or sees something, and I am sure she is better than any security system going around. There is a lot of construction going around my street, so she probably keeps herself entertained barking at them during the day. Unfortunately it has been troubling someone nearby. 🙁

I rest my case, as I said in my original post clearly the most selfish component of today’s community and the rest of us can suck it up or piss off.

mickey mickey 3:44 pm 07 Oct 11

Disinformation said :

Right. After all this, I now wonder exactly why my side neighbor asked me about his dogs. I knew one existed, but there were others I didn’t know about.
I personally like having dogs around my house. Makes the crims think that little bit harder about rolling houses nearby them. The dog across the road has barked at me every time I’ve checked the mailbox and I’ve never thought twice about it other than saying “Woof” back to him.
I think some people just like to bitch and a dog gives them something to focus on.

Definitely. My dog barks when she hears or sees something, and I am sure she is better than any security system going around. There is a lot of construction going around my street, so she probably keeps herself entertained barking at them during the day. Unfortunately it has been troubling someone nearby. 🙁

Disinformation Disinformation 3:36 pm 07 Oct 11

Right. After all this, I now wonder exactly why my side neighbor asked me about his dogs. I knew one existed, but there were others I didn’t know about.
I personally like having dogs around my house. Makes the crims think that little bit harder about rolling houses nearby them. The dog across the road has barked at me every time I’ve checked the mailbox and I’ve never thought twice about it other than saying “Woof” back to him.
I think some people just like to bitch and a dog gives them something to focus on.

Watson Watson 3:20 pm 07 Oct 11

shadow boxer said :

Watson said :

Well lets apply our collective wisdom, how could a dog owner know if their three dogs are barking when they are not at home, hmmmm I know, how about we ask the neighbours.

Ok, so are you saying every dog owner should letterbox all their neighbours – how far from the house? – to ask to let them know if their dogs bark if they happen to be at home during the day? They presumably need to do this when they move in, when they get a second/third dog, when there is a change of circumstances that may cause the dog stress – new baby perhaps, when they return to work after some leave. And then just hope that the neighbours will bother to tell them before they threaten with ‘OR’.

You don’t let your neigbour’s know about a potential issue because ‘you don’t want to cause trouble’? Boohoohoo. Man up! It’s not that hard to talk to your neighbours! You will find that most of them are pretty keen to keep the peace too. And if not, there are ways to get help to resolve conflicts. Without having to resort to threats.

mickey mickey 3:02 pm 07 Oct 11

Watson said :

shadow boxer said :

Well if you want to own a dog (or three) you make it your business to know.

It is not totally unrealistic to think three dogs left at home to their own devices might bark. surely this would cross your mind as you dumped the third dog out the back.

You could take the f#ck it i’ll wait until it pisses someone off enough to complain approach, most dog owners do, but bad manners in my books.

You also did not respond to my suggestion that you expect dog owners to have good manners – to the point that they must be able to observe what their dogs do when they’re not at home, presumably by making themselves invisible, just in case they might possibly annoy one of the neighbours – yet you seem to think it’s perfectly fine for a neighbour to send someone an anonymous threatening letter because of a problem that they didn’t know existed. “Bad manners in my book.”

+1
I swear I wouldn’t bite if someone knocked on my door to talk to me.
My immediate next door neighbour comes across to have a chat every now and then, she had never complained about the dogs, presumably because she works during the day as well. So I had never asked her either.
I guess its the folks in the house behind ours, though I still dont understand why they would want to tolerate a barking dog for 2 whole months, before leaving a threatening note.
Might as well have told me in the first week, problem would have been taken care of by now!
You dont need to be a nobel laureate to work this out.
1. Have a chat.
2. Complain.
3. Escalate
4. Threaten?

🙂

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