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Election 2012. Showtime

johnboy 20 October 2012 159

Alright ladies and gentlemen.

You can drop your election night observations in the comments and I’ll be sure to clear them from whichever watering hole I find myself in.

Feel free to share your thoughts as the night rolls on!

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Pork Hunt 7:32 pm 22 Oct 12

poetix said :

HenryBG said :

I made peace with him by agreeing with him that Riot Act is hopelessly inaccurate. The irony.

Henry BG; the peacemaker.

Isn’t that the name of a gun?

Henry BG, you son of a gun.

The following from Wikipedia:

Cambridge Advanced Learner’s Dictionary and Webster’s Dictionary both define ‘son of a gun’ term in American English as a euphemism for son of a bitch.[4][5]
Historian Brian Dowding states that the phrase ‘son of a gun’ originates from feudal knights’ disdain for newly developed firearms.[6]
Encarta Dictionary defines the term in a different way as someone “affectionately or kindly regarded.”[7]
The term can also be used as an interjection expressing surprise, mild annoyance or disappointment.[5]

I will leave it to the reader to decide which defenition, if any, they wish to apply to Henry however; only Henry can decide if he has a sense of humour or not. 🙂

HenryBG 6:34 pm 22 Oct 12

pepmeup said :

I wonder what impact the article in the Canberra time last Friday saying that the last seat in Molonglo was to be allocated to Giulia Jones or Caroline Le Coulter. Both seemed to get a much higher vote than previous election, Caroline is now a member but Giulia has tripped her vote, yes she had a huge campaign with huge support from the NSW right, but I still wonder how many voters who could not handle the greens voted for Giulia to get her over the line,

You’re kind of assuming that some significant number of those voters read the Canberra TImes.

pepmeup 4:37 pm 22 Oct 12

I wonder what impact the article in the Canberra time last Friday saying that the last seat in Molonglo was to be allocated to Giulia Jones or Caroline Le Coulter. Both seemed to get a much higher vote than previous election, Caroline is now a member but Giulia has tripped her vote, yes she had a huge campaign with huge support from the NSW right, but I still wonder how many voters who could not handle the greens voted for Giulia to get her over the line,

c_c 3:04 pm 22 Oct 12

poetix said :

HenryBG said :

I made peace with him by agreeing with him that Riot Act is hopelessly inaccurate. The irony.

Henry BG; the peacemaker.

Isn’t that the name of a gun?

Colt single action, the one they said won the west if I recall correctly.

caf 2:57 pm 22 Oct 12

Pandy said :

poetix said :

Speaking of Gungahlin in a more positive way, bad luck Alan Kerlin. I think you would have been a valuable asset. Though that makes you sound like an investment property…

This is politics!!! Alan was just machine gun fodder to make-up the numbers for the Greens. He was not a true believer.

Politics? This is Hare-Clark. Parties select more candidates than they’re reasonably likely to win so that if one of their candidates retires, they have people in the re-count. Alan may get the call-up if Shane and Caroline both end up unable or unwilling to serve sometime in the next 4 years.

Diggety 2:55 pm 22 Oct 12

johnboy said :

well they’ll be dominating the committees. But let’s get the count finished.

True, any idea when that is supposed to be?

Whenever it is, an explainer article on the new assembly and what it means for governance would be a helpful read.

poetix 2:55 pm 22 Oct 12

HenryBG said :

I made peace with him by agreeing with him that Riot Act is hopelessly inaccurate. The irony.

Henry BG; the peacemaker.

Isn’t that the name of a gun?

Diggety 2:21 pm 22 Oct 12

If the predictions are correct, and Labor/Greens form minority Government, the party with the most seats in Assembly will have the least say… Odd.

    johnboy 2:23 pm 22 Oct 12

    well they’ll be dominating the committees. But let’s get the count finished.

HenryBG 1:12 pm 22 Oct 12

johnboy said :

There’s never been a first time.

I met him once, late one Friday night. I think somebody mentioned he worked for the CT (I’ve known a few people there over the years) and I said something about being too lazy to pick up the morning paper to read 2-day-old news versus the up-to-the-minute news provided by browsing to Riot Act.
You could say he spat a few chips.
I made peace with him by agreeing with him that Riot Act is hopelessly inaccurate. The irony.

Chop71 11:25 am 22 Oct 12

Pandy said :

poetix said :

bundah said :

poetix said :

And, at the risk of being tedious, Pocock now has nearly 500 votes. That’s a lot.

He’s well on target to getting 700+ votes ie. 7 out of 1000 have voted for him…..disturbing!

Well it disturbs me, anyway. I found myself looking around, trying to figure out who voted for him. They can’t all live in Gungahlin, can they?

Speaking of Gungahlin in a more positive way, bad luck Alan Kerlin. I think you would have been a valuable asset. Though that makes you sound like an investment property…

This is politics!!! Alan was just machine gun fodder to make-up the numbers for the Greens. He was not a true believer.

Hope he reviews his decision to go green

zippyzippy 9:24 am 22 Oct 12

joingler said :

To the Greens supporters claiming BTFC split your vote – YOU ARE IDIOTS (feel free to edit JB).

I know of at least 20 people who voted Bullet Train first but refuse to vote Greens at all. I voted BTFC first then the motorists with a few Libs and Labs afterwards. Shane Rattenbury was my last preference (around 10 or so) as despite the Greens being stupid, Shane is intelligent and actually thinks for himself.

As much as I like Alan Kerlin (I used to look after his kids), I couldn’t vote for him as he seemed to eager to toe the party line with every issue. Shane speaks his thoughts and isn’t afraid to differ slightly from Greens policy.

And about Phillip Pocock, there are many people who vote independent for the sake of voting independent (I would have had Pocock high on my list had I not read about him on here). I agree that it is silly people vote blindly (either for an independent or a party candidate) but it isn’t as bad as believing in his policies. And funnily enough, I actually liked what he had to say about problem gambling (lost the link sorry). It’s just a shame he is misguided on other issues such as gender and sexual equality.

Settle down. No-one’s saying YOU voted this way. It’s about what might have happened among thousands and thousands of votes. When even the television news and CT constantly confuses high speed rail and light rail you know that there’s confusion aplenty out there.

The other thing that bullet train did that didn’t help was to push a line that the greens did nothing for bullet trains (as the person who posted above also said; I figure he got that from the bullet train media).

Nonsense. Look into it, the greens are the only ones to have pushed for it, and now diminished greens in the parliament means diminished chance of bullet train.

It annoys me, because I reckon rail is a great thing, i’m totally with the bullet train party on the need for the train, but now the issue may well go backwards in this new parliament.

Pandy 8:28 am 22 Oct 12

poetix said :

bundah said :

poetix said :

And, at the risk of being tedious, Pocock now has nearly 500 votes. That’s a lot.

He’s well on target to getting 700+ votes ie. 7 out of 1000 have voted for him…..disturbing!

Well it disturbs me, anyway. I found myself looking around, trying to figure out who voted for him. They can’t all live in Gungahlin, can they?

Speaking of Gungahlin in a more positive way, bad luck Alan Kerlin. I think you would have been a valuable asset. Though that makes you sound like an investment property…

This is politics!!! Alan was just machine gun fodder to make-up the numbers for the Greens. He was not a true believer.

The Traineediplomat 7:55 am 22 Oct 12

With the 85.5% of the Ginninderra roll counted, Majlinda Bitani of the Marion Le Social Justice Party has secured 54 votes, luckily that’s above the all time smallest of 30 for Robert Fearn in 2004 (Molonglo).

For Pocock it’s currently 553 – putting him 23rd from 26 (ahead of Biggs, Gardner (LDP) and Jha (LDP))

My postal vote for Ginninderra is no doubt still winging it’s way to Election ACT central.

bundah 11:41 pm 21 Oct 12

yellowsnow said :

Zan said :

I think that many people are fed up with Labor/Greens and the state of the roads in Canberra: poor re-sealing, after a couple of months it is so shoddy; sink holes popping up everywhere every time it rains, big enough for small scooters and motorbikes to break wheels; wide two laned roads are painted with white lines so that the peddleing people can have half the road.

+1

You’ve summed out some of my main gripes with the ACT Govt quite nicely – and they all have to do with ACTRoads. Those guys need a serious shake-up

The ACT is the highest income, highest taxed part of Australia – yet looking at the quality of the road resurfacing (i.e. the el cheopo chip seal stuff that’s really difficult to drive or ride a bike on) on many roads you wouldn’t know it. They say they do it to cut costs, because asphalt is too expensive – yet other cities seem able to afford asphalt. Despite this penny-pinching in existing suburbs, RoadsACT are happy to spend $14million on 800m of an over-engineered new road in a new suburb, and even that gets 14 months to build, with a constantly moving completion date that somehow never eventuates. Contract management or project planning certainly ain’t their strong suit.

Then there’s my other bugbear: traffic light sequencing – why aren’t the lights on main roads better synchronised? I’m sick of getting one red light after another after another on Northbourne, Hindmarsh, Ginnininderra Drive or Drakeford – even at night or in the middle of the day when there is minimal cross-street traffic. It’s infuriating – and results in many people rat running to avoid the lights, or speeding to try and beat the lights. In other cities the lights seem to be programmed more intelligently, to help traffic flow more efficiently. In the ACT, I suspect monkeys do it.

Well articulated and the bloody annoying thing is that this has been the case for decades.I seem to recall reading that since self guvment was imposed on the ACT the expenditure on roads has effectively been cut in half due to budgetary constraints.Assuming this is actually the case, frustratingly,the unacceptable status quo will remain.

yellowsnow 10:41 pm 21 Oct 12

Zan said :

I think that many people are fed up with Labor/Greens and the state of the roads in Canberra: poor re-sealing, after a couple of months it is so shoddy; sink holes popping up everywhere every time it rains, big enough for small scooters and motorbikes to break wheels; wide two laned roads are painted with white lines so that the peddleing people can have half the road.

+1

You’ve summed out some of my main gripes with the ACT Govt quite nicely – and they all have to do with ACTRoads. Those guys need a serious shake-up

The ACT is the highest income, highest taxed part of Australia – yet looking at the quality of the road resurfacing (i.e. the el cheopo chip seal stuff that’s really difficult to drive or ride a bike on) on many roads you wouldn’t know it. They say they do it to cut costs, because asphalt is too expensive – yet other cities seem able to afford asphalt. Despite this penny-pinching in existing suburbs, RoadsACT are happy to spend $14million on 800m of an over-engineered new road in a new suburb, and even that gets 14 months to build, with a constantly moving completion date that somehow never eventuates. Contract management or project planning certainly ain’t their strong suit.

Then there’s my other bugbear: traffic light sequencing – why aren’t the lights on main roads better synchronised? I’m sick of getting one red light after another after another on Northbourne, Hindmarsh, Ginnininderra Drive or Drakeford – even at night or in the middle of the day when there is minimal cross-street traffic. It’s infuriating – and results in many people rat running to avoid the lights, or speeding to try and beat the lights. In other cities the lights seem to be programmed more intelligently, to help traffic flow more efficiently. In the ACT, I suspect monkeys do it.

milkman 8:58 pm 21 Oct 12

c_c said :

Zan said :

I think that many people are fed up with Labor/Greens and the state of the roads in Canberra: poor re-sealing, after a couple of months it is so shoddy; sink holes popping up everywhere every time it rains, big enough for small scooters and motorbikes to break wheels; wide two laned roads are painted with white lines so that the peddleing people can have half the road.

haha, someone who’s never driven on a road outside Canberra obviously. Or for that matter on Canberra roads under the last Liberal government.

Comparing apples with oranges rarely works.

c_c 7:53 pm 21 Oct 12

Zan said :

I think that many people are fed up with Labor/Greens and the state of the roads in Canberra: poor re-sealing, after a couple of months it is so shoddy; sink holes popping up everywhere every time it rains, big enough for small scooters and motorbikes to break wheels; wide two laned roads are painted with white lines so that the peddleing people can have half the road.

haha, someone who’s never driven on a road outside Canberra obviously. Or for that matter on Canberra roads under the last Liberal government.

Pork Hunt 7:47 pm 21 Oct 12

poetix said :

I would like to be a moth, mozzie or fly on the wall next time JB and Noel Towell meet…

You’d just be bugging them…

Pork Hunt 7:46 pm 21 Oct 12

Zan said :

I think that many people are fed up with Labor/Greens and the state of the roads in Canberra: poor re-sealing, after a couple of months it is so shoddy; sink holes popping up everywhere every time it rains, big enough for small scooters and motorbikes to break wheels; wide two laned roads are painted with white lines so that the peddleing people can have half the road.

Not to mention Wentworth Avenue. Absolute effing goat track between Friday Apartments and Telopea Park. What’s going on ACT Roads?

Duffbowl 7:26 pm 21 Oct 12

WillowJim said :

drfelonious said :

This is Canberra – the best informed voting population in Australia.

You must be joking. Heaps of people at my work had no idea about the vote on Friday. When I lived in Newcastle, everyone had an opinion about the council elections.

APS staff may pay attention to federal politics, but, from my experience, most are clueless about their own city.

Can’t say about the Newcastle thing, but the last statement is certainly true. Canberrans seem quite adept at confusion federal and territory issues, in my experience and opinion.

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