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Gun control hasn’t stopped crims getting guns. It’s stopped them getting good guns

By johnboy - 23 October 2013 34

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ACT Policing detectives seized a modified 12-gauge shotgun and a quantity of drugs in Braddon today (Wednesday, 23 October).

About 10.20am, detectives from the Criminal Investigations Response Team observed the men sitting in the front seat of a silver Toyota Yaris in a Girrahween Street car park.

After approaching the vehicle, the officers observed the passenger had what appeared to be clip seal bags of illicit drugs.

The detectives directed the men out of the vehicle. The firearm was located on the driver’s seat as the driver left the vehicle. It was immediately seized.

Police conducted a search of the vehicle, locating a quantity of methamphetamine and valium. The drugs are believed to have a potential street value of around $1,700. Ammunition for the firearm was also seized.

The two occupants of the vehicle, a 25-year-old Oxley man and a 29-year-old Murrumbateman man, were both arrested and transported to the ACT Watch House. They will be charged with drug and firearm related offences.

The men will face ACT Magistrates Court tomorrow morning.

ACT Policing is currently conducting campaigns targeting illicit firearms and drugs. If you know or suspect anyone in your neighbourhood is involved in criminal activity contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or via www.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

Rewards of up to $5,000 are being offered for information leading to the seizure of illicit firearms, and the successful prosecution of illicit firearms offenders.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Gun control hasn’t stopped crims getting guns. It’s stopped them getting good guns
IrishPete 2:48 pm 24 Oct 13

460cixy said :

neanderthalsis said :

IrishPete said :

Who said stolen firearms aren’t used in crime?

IP

I can’t see anywhere in the police release that states it is a stolen firearm. I can’t recall anyone claiming on here that stolen firearms aren’t used in crime; most of us legal firearms owners have read, and often quote from, the Australian Institute of Criminology reports on firearms theft and use in crimes. The stats are very handy when I find myself forced to justify my gun ownership by the hyperventilating “all guns and gun owners are bad” crowd who believe that a licenced and heavily regulated gun owner becomes a homicidal maniac hell bent on killing everything as soon as they pick up a gun.

Judging by the antiquity of the shotty, it was probably a pre-buyback gun bought at KMART back in the days when you could pick one up for next to nothing with virtually no regulation. It also looks as if it would be more dangerous to the nut behind the butt rather than anyone on the receiving end. It would kick like an angry mule and have a maximum range of about 10 metres depending on the ammo used.

Think you are bang on there. Would of been millions of those back in the day and never been registered but hey it’s only legal guns we have to worry about according to I.P

I didn’t say that. I am suggesting it is ALSO legal guns we have to worry about, once stolen, or if in the hands of people who shouldn’t be trusted with a butter knife.

Every time there is a shooting incident, people rush to their keyboards to say (in the absence of any evidence for or against) that it wasn’t a stolen gun, it must have been illegally imported. I just wanted to get in first.

IP

IrishPete 2:45 pm 24 Oct 13

neanderthalsis said :

IrishPete said :

Postalgeek said :

IrishPete said :

And I would like to thank the person who dumped a deer carcass near where I live. Lovely smell… I can’t tell for sure that it was shot, as it’s too decomposed now, but I can’t see any other way it would have got to where it is.

IP

Could it not have been hit by a car, mauled by a dingo, died of old age/disease/climate change/Tony Abbott?

Are we talking about the deer or the gun?

The deer has been dumped – find edge of hill, push over. The location doesn’t really fit anything else. If you’d hit this deer with a car, the car would also be there, also dead. Deer is the size of a cow. It might even be a cow.

IP

neanderthalsis 1:17 pm 24 Oct 13

IrishPete said :

Postalgeek said :

IrishPete said :

And I would like to thank the person who dumped a deer carcass near where I live. Lovely smell… I can’t tell for sure that it was shot, as it’s too decomposed now, but I can’t see any other way it would have got to where it is.

IP

Could it not have been hit by a car, mauled by a dingo, died of old age/disease/climate change/Tony Abbott?

460cixy 1:12 pm 24 Oct 13

neanderthalsis said :

IrishPete said :

Who said stolen firearms aren’t used in crime?

IP

I can’t see anywhere in the police release that states it is a stolen firearm. I can’t recall anyone claiming on here that stolen firearms aren’t used in crime; most of us legal firearms owners have read, and often quote from, the Australian Institute of Criminology reports on firearms theft and use in crimes. The stats are very handy when I find myself forced to justify my gun ownership by the hyperventilating “all guns and gun owners are bad” crowd who believe that a licenced and heavily regulated gun owner becomes a homicidal maniac hell bent on killing everything as soon as they pick up a gun.

Judging by the antiquity of the shotty, it was probably a pre-buyback gun bought at KMART back in the days when you could pick one up for next to nothing with virtually no regulation. It also looks as if it would be more dangerous to the nut behind the butt rather than anyone on the receiving end. It would kick like an angry mule and have a maximum range of about 10 metres depending on the ammo used.

Think you are bang on there. Would of been millions of those back in the day and never been registered but hey it’s only legal guns we have to worry about according to I.P

Robertson 12:39 pm 24 Oct 13

Those two should be shipped off to one of Gina Rheinhardt’s mines for 12 months of proper labour.

IrishPete 12:22 pm 24 Oct 13

Postalgeek said :

IrishPete said :

Who said stolen firearms aren’t used in crime?

IP

I don’t know. Did anyone say that?

Yes, frequently on the RiotACT.

Perhaps this one wasn’t stolen – perhaps someone paid several hundred dollars for a legal shotgun, registered it, and then cut it down and hoped the cops wouldn’t do a random inspection. No doubt they intended to use it for shooting flying pigs.

And I would like to thank the person who dumped a deer carcass near where I live. Lovely smell… I can’t tell for sure that it was shot, as it’s too decomposed now, but I can’t see any other way it would have got to where it is.

IP

PBO 10:33 am 24 Oct 13

Thumper said :

Braver man than me to fire that piece….

The wanker must have had wrists as strong as steel to fire that like a pistol, but it looks like it is missing the piece that secures the barrel.

DUG 10:19 am 24 Oct 13

As punishment the bloke should be made to go through a box of shells on the range, and if he can still fire the thing they should start lining up his drugs and belongings as targets.

Then I want to have a go 🙂

Just quietly, what do you expect from a country which glorifies real life crimo’s in its number one TV Drama. – just saying!

Thumper 9:46 am 24 Oct 13

Braver man than me to fire that piece….

neanderthalsis 8:37 am 24 Oct 13

IrishPete said :

Who said stolen firearms aren’t used in crime?

IP

I can’t see anywhere in the police release that states it is a stolen firearm. I can’t recall anyone claiming on here that stolen firearms aren’t used in crime; most of us legal firearms owners have read, and often quote from, the Australian Institute of Criminology reports on firearms theft and use in crimes. The stats are very handy when I find myself forced to justify my gun ownership by the hyperventilating “all guns and gun owners are bad” crowd who believe that a licenced and heavily regulated gun owner becomes a homicidal maniac hell bent on killing everything as soon as they pick up a gun.

Judging by the antiquity of the shotty, it was probably a pre-buyback gun bought at KMART back in the days when you could pick one up for next to nothing with virtually no regulation. It also looks as if it would be more dangerous to the nut behind the butt rather than anyone on the receiving end. It would kick like an angry mule and have a maximum range of about 10 metres depending on the ammo used.

Sandman 8:36 am 24 Oct 13

Jeez, that thing would have enough kick to snap your wrist. I suspect its intent is more intimidation rather than being a practical firearm.

460cixy 8:09 am 24 Oct 13

IrishPete said :

Who said stolen firearms aren’t used in crime?

IP

Who said it was stolen?

Postalgeek 11:16 pm 23 Oct 13

IrishPete said :

Who said stolen firearms aren’t used in crime?

IP

I don’t know. Did anyone say that?

IrishPete 8:31 pm 23 Oct 13

Who said stolen firearms aren’t used in crime?

IP

LSWCHP 6:51 pm 23 Oct 13

More good work by the Rozzers. I shudder at the thought of possibly drug affected people driving around with weapons like that in their cars. One wrong word to the wrong bloke at the wrong time and you could end up dead.

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