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Hume fixed speed cameras – are they operational?

Vic Bitterman 22 January 2008 34

I don’t believe that the fixed speed cameras in Hume are operational.

Why? Every other speed camera setup I have seen, has some magnetic sensors embedded into the road. This has been done on the parkway and every other camera I can think of – the strips that are visible when cut into the tarmac.

The ones in Hume do not have this. I don’t think the cameras are a radar type setup, they look the usual separate flash and camera box.

Has anyone here copped a fine from one, or somebody who has? I don’t know a single person who has.

I’m not game to be the one who gives this a test though! 🙂


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p1 p1 12:29 pm 29 Nov 08

If it is not detection radar, then it is only as accurate as the last time it was connected to a updated list of locations, making anything but fixed locations pretty meaningless, and most in car nav systems do this.

If it is a radar detector, then I believe it isn’t legal in Australia. and the police in the ACT use lasers, so you might get caught anyway.

cranky cranky 12:21 pm 29 Nov 08

Only slightly OT, I’m told Aldi are selling a GPS unit for about $140 which displays radar in the near vicinity. Not just fixed speed camera locations but mobile as well. An image of a car apparently appears on the screen at the source of the radar, and can be in front, behind or anywhere else in relation to your vehicle.

Could open a whole can of worms, because I suspect it is not a ‘radar detector’ as such.

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 10:47 am 29 Nov 08

bloody italics tags…

Gungahlin Al Gungahlin Al 10:46 am 29 Nov 08

As others have pointed out loop sensors have been around a long time. Indeed apart from one of the trail camera’s in the ACT all of the combined red light/speed camera’s installed in the ACT do this. To be done for speeding you clearly need to go between the two (or 3) loops faster than calculated time. That means you have to trip both sensors. To be done running a red light, the same applies you have to trigger both loops.

Some ACT red light camera’s take a photo everytime the lights turn red, they actually take 2 shots. Again to be done you have to be seen to be moving through the intersection, so just over won’t get you in the poop. But the speed part is still the loop sensors.

With the latest generation camera’s I belive some of the fixed speed only camera’s are indeed of the radar type.

Citizens’ Enforcement Bureau here – here’s a $100 fine to JC for repeated inappropriate use of apostrophes.

SkipDaRoo SkipDaRoo 9:27 am 29 Nov 08

howdy said :

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The ones outside the Gungahlin Lakes club may be fake. I’ve never seen a flash go off and the box is really small.

Oh I can debunk this rumour from experience, 3am Gspot run apparently I ran a red light.

I dont recall it ever happening yet I still have the ticket, these ones are real

howdy howdy 9:33 am 24 Jan 08

Is that the spot where a tree covers the 60 sign on the left? I know someone who got off from a parking fine cause a tree covered the sign. You could give it a go if it isn’t too late…

To To 8:12 am 24 Jan 08

I got done for doing 80 in a 60 zone by a speed van AFTER they changed the speed limit to 60 – Sneaky bastards! Alot of people at that time were doing 80 too.

Needless to say everyone knows it’s 60 now 🙂

JC JC 11:01 pm 22 Jan 08

“This was the email forward – It’s from July last year.

“BEWARE!!

Canberra Ave and Hindmarsh Drive intersection has been fitted with Red light and Speed “loop” detectors, these are a new type of red light and
speed camera, they detect how much time it has taken your car to travel from point A (first sensor) to point B (second sensor) instead of using radar, therefore they are extremely accurate.
They are implanted under the road surface and are completely undetectable, they are also only 300 mm in front of the white stop line at these lights, so if you over shoot the line even by less than half a car length you will be charged, even though you didn’t proceed through the lights.

These are also installed at the north bound intersection of Canberra Ave and Captain Cook cres in Manuka.
>
These will apparently replace all existing speed and red light camera’s in the ACT within the next few years…”…………”

As others have pointed out loop sensors have been around a long time. Indeed apart from one of the trail camera’s in the ACT all of the combined red light/speed camera’s installed in the ACT do this. To be done for speeding you clearly need to go between the two (or 3) loops faster than calculated time. That means you have to trip both sensors. To be done running a red light, the same applies you have to trigger both loops.

Some ACT red light camera’s take a photo everytime the lights turn red, they actually take 2 shots. Again to be done you have to be seen to be moving through the intersection, so just over won’t get you in the poop. But the speed part is still the loop sensors.

With the latest generation camera’s I belive some of the fixed speed only camera’s are indeed of the radar type. Having not been home to CBR in about 9 months can anyone expalin what they look like. Is there a main camera head with a bit off the side, or multiple poles?

howdy howdy 8:38 pm 22 Jan 08

Good old google. They’ve put a link at the top of this page. Too Funny.

“Speed Camera Detector
First 100 Sold are Half Price! Only a few left”

http://www.beatthespeedtrap.co.nz/australia.html

howdy howdy 7:24 pm 22 Jan 08

Probably a ‘refresh’ screen issue so you wouldn’t have seen the correction.

Stupid computers. KICK

howdy howdy 7:11 pm 22 Jan 08

(Maybe the correction below my comment was missed)

howdy howdy 7:09 pm 22 Jan 08

Nah i’m still an igit I’m afraid : )
I still get that you’re saying the idea that loop systems are ‘new’ is bollocks and that they have been around for years.

My comment is confusing though.
I’m trying to say that that although what the email says about how long they have been around is bollocks the fact they exist isn’t – the reason I posted the spam mail.

Maybe I was supposed to consider in an earlier comment too?

If that’s not the misunderstanding I think I need “VBerlinaV8’s comment for the Dummies” : )

JC JC 7:02 pm 22 Jan 08

Vic is referring to Hume, the suburb, not Hume, the highway…..

Oppps, forgot about the suburb of Hume!!!!

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 6:47 pm 22 Jan 08

Hint:

The ‘Loop’ type systems have been installed for years at various intersections.

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 6:47 pm 22 Jan 08

Re-read what I actually typed then, rather than what you think I typed.

howdy howdy 6:42 pm 22 Jan 08

‘have not been around’ (I’m tired)

howdy howdy 6:41 pm 22 Jan 08

Glad to be of service : )
But only the fact they have been around for years is bollocks though? The loop thing is worth bringing up since we are querying speed camera design : )

el ......VNBerlinaV8 el ......VNBerlinaV8 6:35 pm 22 Jan 08

Meh. As was discussed at the time, that email was a load of bollocks – The ‘Loop’ type systems have been installed for years at various intersections. Glad to see people are still reposting it though.

howdy howdy 6:30 pm 22 Jan 08

Aw but I wanna believe it!

Adza Adza 6:19 pm 22 Jan 08

Don’t believe EVERYTHING. Some cameras use radar or laser technology rather then sensors in the road. The email above about the Canberra Ave/Hindmarsh Dr is wrong.. red light and speed cameras have used this technology for years. And yes, 300mm over is breaking the law so wizzo you get a fine.

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