Images of Canberra – Crace, a place like no other

johnboy 21 June 2010 70

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A reader who wishes to remain anonymous has sent in the above photos with the following note:

When walking towards the trig on Percival Hill in Gungahlin recently to had to take this shot!

CRACE – a place like no other?

My first thoughts were of one of the scenes in the Jackie Chan movie Police Story.

police story

For mine it made me think more of this.

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Thumper Thumper 8:30 am 06 Oct 11

Crace, a place like no other.

At least they got the slogan right, if nothing else.

Watson Watson 8:02 am 06 Oct 11

GardeningGirl said :

A further thought, for some people having just enough open space around their home for a street tree at the front and a picnic table out the back is a good thing. Small houses on 800m2 blocks littered with dead grass and dead cars is a waste of land.
And browsing Allhomes (Gungahlin, not specifically Crace), some thoughts about design. I’ve seen one small house with an internal laundry (no, not a so-called European laundry, a full laundry room) and space wasted in lengthening the corridor to allow for a back door, where a simple swap seems to have had the potential to avoid those two undesirable features. Another house has two of the secondary bedrooms off the entry and some distance away from the main bathroom, use to be such a room would have been considered primarily a study rather than a bedroom. I’ve gained the impression that builders are trying to come up with “different” designs and are running into problems when they deal with the constraints of limiting house size and fitting into really tight building envelopes. They might be better served by sticking with a small pool of truly functional floorplans and creating streetscape variety through things like colours, materials and window sizes.

I agree on the designs. I had to buy a little house in the Gungahlin area and am not at all happy with the lay-out. They’ve wasted space on fitting in a “breakfast bench” and now the living area will be tiny. I could only afford buying off the plan though, so no choice there.

I’m also not exactly excited about the small backyard, because I really love my vegetable patch and there won’t be much space for anything else once I’ve established that. But I am happy about the fact that I can easily avoid having lawns (or concrete!) and will fill the available space up with easy care greenery.

I personally could never live in a unit, but I know people who hate gardening so much that they’re happier with just a balcony.

Deref Deref 7:25 am 06 Oct 11

54-11 said :

“Little Boxes”:

Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes made of ticky tacky

+1

Lovely new slums.

GardeningGirl GardeningGirl 11:57 pm 05 Oct 11

A further thought, for some people having just enough open space around their home for a street tree at the front and a picnic table out the back is a good thing. Small houses on 800m2 blocks littered with dead grass and dead cars is a waste of land.
And browsing Allhomes (Gungahlin, not specifically Crace), some thoughts about design. I’ve seen one small house with an internal laundry (no, not a so-called European laundry, a full laundry room) and space wasted in lengthening the corridor to allow for a back door, where a simple swap seems to have had the potential to avoid those two undesirable features. Another house has two of the secondary bedrooms off the entry and some distance away from the main bathroom, use to be such a room would have been considered primarily a study rather than a bedroom. I’ve gained the impression that builders are trying to come up with “different” designs and are running into problems when they deal with the constraints of limiting house size and fitting into really tight building envelopes. They might be better served by sticking with a small pool of truly functional floorplans and creating streetscape variety through things like colours, materials and window sizes.

Bramina Bramina 10:52 pm 05 Oct 11

dpm said :

Nevermind these flats, it’s all about Hilltops at Crace now (In case you haven’t heard, they’re highly desirable!!).
Hahahahaha!! Talk about your manufactured hype!!!
And why are there only females in that Hilltops ad (well, one female anyway)? Their research must have worked out females are the ones into ‘highly desiarble’ hilltop locations??
If they’re so highly desirable, why do they plug that ad non-stop? Geeez…..

Of course they are desirable, people are lining up to buy them.

The economist in me says this could be because of constrained supply, but who cares about silly economics anyway.

GardeningGirl GardeningGirl 10:51 pm 05 Oct 11

Actually, rereading this thread, some of the arguments in favour of this kind of development make sense, and the area will look much better when the landscaping matures just as has happened to other suburbs.
I think factors contributing to the negativity include concerns about the build quality (medium and high density has had bad publicity in recent times), certain flaws in design (eg the aforementioned wc placement), and the advertising (don’t people whose native language is real estate speak realise how it sounds to the rest of us?). Medium density housing is certainly going to suit some people, they deserve to get sensible intelligently designed and solidly built homes and to not have people in other suburbs putting down their choice of residence. But can developers deliver something of substance instead of relying on the over-the-top buzzword-beriddled marketing which only serves to emphasise any shortcomings in the product?

dpm dpm 7:48 pm 05 Oct 11

Nevermind these flats, it’s all about Hilltops at Crace now (In case you haven’t heard, they’re highly desirable!!).
Hahahahaha!! Talk about your manufactured hype!!!
And why are there only females in that Hilltops ad (well, one female anyway)? Their research must have worked out females are the ones into ‘highly desiarble’ hilltop locations??
If they’re so highly desirable, why do they plug that ad non-stop? Geeez…..

SamSam77 SamSam77 5:55 pm 05 Oct 11

http://howstuffworks.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/blog-favela-painting-4.jpg

They paint slums in bright colours…. I think that is all that needs to be said.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 1:26 pm 27 Jul 10

bit quiet MP123 – out showing houses at the moment are you?

Ari Ari 6:24 pm 26 Jul 10

MP123 said :

I’m sure the people of Balmain and places like that with thousands of terraces complained about the same thing when it was being developed in the 1920-30s

I’ve lived in Balmain and – unlike Crace – I don’t remember having to take a sh*t in the kitchen.

Oh, and living on Sydney Harbour was also a minor plus.

farq farq 4:43 pm 26 Jul 10

Die Lefty Scum said :

It’s sad to see some people actually swallow the crap fed to them by real estate agents.

The more fools that move out that way the better.

Developments like Crace will attract the stupid and naive to the outer edges of the city, leaving the established suburbs a paradise populated by a ‘better sort of people’.

Die Lefty Scum Die Lefty Scum 3:45 pm 26 Jul 10

MP123 said :

I’m sure the people of Balmain and places like that with thousands of terraces complained about the same thing when it was being developed in the 1920-30s… now you can’t find one for under 600-700K – and that’s a dirty run down one.

I predict these will be worth a fortune in years to come given Crace’s relatively central location in the north.

It’s sad to see some people actually swallow the crap fed to them by real estate agents.

colourful sydney racing identity colourful sydney racing identity 3:27 pm 26 Jul 10

MP123 said :

I’m sure the people of Balmain and places like that with thousands of terraces complained about the same thing when it was being developed in the 1920-30s… now you can’t find one for under 600-700K – and that’s a dirty run down one.

I predict these will be worth a fortune in years to come given Crace’s relatively central location in the north.

Oh, that takes the cake. Crace: the new Balmain. Wouldn’t happen to have an interest in Crace would you?

Roadrage77 Roadrage77 3:10 pm 26 Jul 10

As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Gungahlin mornin’
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries
’cause if there’s one thing that she don’t need
it’s another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto

farq farq 2:36 pm 26 Jul 10

MP123 said :

I predict these will be worth a fortune in years to come given Crace’s relatively central location in the north.

Lol. Looking at the low standard of construction used in Crace, I don’t think any of these houses will stil be standing in 70 years. That I find the comparison itself between Balmain and Crace laughable.

But go right ahead and buy out there MP123. The more people that move out to the (future)slums of Gungahlin, the less competition for land in the established suburbs.

MP123 MP123 1:54 pm 26 Jul 10

I’m sure the people of Balmain and places like that with thousands of terraces complained about the same thing when it was being developed in the 1920-30s… now you can’t find one for under 600-700K – and that’s a dirty run down one.

I predict these will be worth a fortune in years to come given Crace’s relatively central location in the north.

freakwent freakwent 10:01 am 08 Jul 10

Why are Crace allowed to have huge billboards? I thought the ACT had a no billboards law.

Jim Jones Jim Jones 3:17 pm 07 Jul 10

sdcno1 said :

This looks like fun.

Who’s turn is it to post on unflattering photo of their house so canberran pubes/plebs can critique it!

… and all the people who live in the crappy suburb can get all pissy about it.

Good times.

Blathnat Blathnat 2:58 pm 07 Jul 10

Ugly houses, ugly suburb. Low density housing FTW! Long gone are the days when you can come home and unwind in the backyard with some music. And don’t even get me started on the fact that Canberra is turning into a rental nightmare, with people only buying reasonable houses (not McMansions) for the purpose of renting at huge prices…While there might be a market for these types of houses, the more Canberra is turning into Sydney, the more I am wanting to leave here after 25 years

Thumper Thumper 2:01 pm 07 Jul 10

I should add that the place I rented in London was a terrace house (built in 1860 or 61), three storeys high and had three seperate flats, each with at least two bedrooms in them.

Maybe this is what is needed in Canberra to solve our housing problem, which one can safely say is only going to get worse in the future.

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